FireCaptain 563 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) Great point, however if he is guilty and she takes the settlement, she forever looks like a liar and a golddigger - even if she was telling the truth - , while he - although not 'guilty' in a court of law - will be forever tarnished. No one wins here, either way. It's like OJ winning the criminal case, but losing the civil case. I would think a settlement is likely. If he's not guilty, she's going to take the settlement and run. If he's guilty, she may well rather end it with something than face a jury and have to recount the most horrific thing that's ever happened to her, knowing that in such a high-profile case people will be glued to every word. If I were in her shoes (assuming he's guilty), I'd take the money. Justice would not be served, but if you find yourself in that situation, sometimes your own peace comes before the greater good. At least he's been exposed and other women will be warned. Edited September 9, 2015 by FireCaptain 1 twopups reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 That is the problem : It will never completely go away if he agrees on a settlement. But processes like this tend to get very ugly for the accused weather he or she is guilty or not so it's absolutely understandable if Kane wants to get out of this without the case going to trial. Yeah, but honestly It would never really go away even if he was acquitted by a jury. It would always be tied to his name unless the accuser withdrew the charges (maybe not even then). I guess I meant pay to get it out of the news. A trial would make it a big story for a much longer period. But I withdraw my comment about him buying to make it go away. There's a lot of reasons for settling before a trial for both sides whether he's guilty or not and we obviously don't know what's going on. Always disliked Kane and let my cynical side get away from me for a second there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Playmaker Report post Posted September 9, 2015 Ironic how this thread started out discussing the impartiality of those on juries, yet how many posts are assuming Kane's guilt? A settlement implies nothing, nor does an accusation. But he plays for the Blackhawks, so that does it..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barabbas16 499 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 Thing is, they never would. I imagine that organization cares more about trying to win more Cups with their "core" than what people think about them employing an alleged rapist. Yet, if this was a non-core player rather than Kane, I imagine the Blackhawks organization would more than likely rest on their impeccable moral code. You know, like the Kings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franzine 739 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) Thing is, they never would. I imagine that organization cares more about trying to win more Cups with their "core" than what people think about them employing an alleged rapist. Not an astute analysis. Edited September 9, 2015 by Franzine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 Yet, if this was a non-core player rather than Kane, I imagine the Blackhawks organization would more than likely rest on their impeccable moral code. You know, like the Kings.The kings would rather have an animal back than someone who has used painkillers ... 2 MrazekFanBoy and number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 The kings would rather have an animal back than someone who has used painkillers ... Doesn't get brought up enough. Blows my mind [seriously] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 Kobe Bryant did something stupid. Then brought 2 championships to the Lakers. Chicago will never disfavor Kane over what he (possibly) did. Superstars almost always get their way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 Kobe Bryant did something stupid. Then brought 2 championships to the Lakers. Chicago will never disfavor Kane over what he (possibly) did. Superstars almost always get their way. 03-04 Lakers were my fav Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterPavel 115 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) Whoa guys, I never claimed there was a perfect system okI wasn't attacking you at all, and i apologize if it came off that way. I was just curious where you feel the direction our justice system should head. I 100% agree with you that our system is not perfect. I have thought, over countless glasses of bourbon, how I would change it if I had the power too. Edited September 9, 2015 by MasterPavel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mckinley25 677 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 Doesn't get brought up enough. Blows my mind [seriously] If Kopitar or Quick got caught with pills would their contracts be terminated? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,492 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) If Kopitar or Quick got caught with pills would their contracts be terminated? Lol. About as quickly as Kane's will be. Sports is a business, and the people that run sports teams operate them as such. Every fan wants championships, new stadiums, and flashy free agents. You do that by winning and putting butts in the seats. And sometimes, to do that, GMs are willing to ignore the ethical imperatives. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it is what it is. Businesses exist to make money, not to enforce the social good. Expecting them to do the latter, rather than the former, will always disappoint. Our very own Mike Illitch does plenty of unethical things in the name of our team. Nobody calls him out on it. So lets not pretend its just a Kings or Hawks problem. Edited September 10, 2015 by kipwinger 2 Gordie Howe hat trick and 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) If Kopitar or Quick got caught with pills would their contracts be terminated? Kopitar and Quick could probably whoop their own mothers and Sutter would give them butt pats for it. Pills though? PILLS??? Now that's crossing the line, even for them. Edited September 9, 2015 by number9 1 jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted September 11, 2015 After being postponed earlier this week, the latest word from the Chicago Tribune on Thursday is that a grand jury is expected to resume regarding Patrick Kane‘s alleged rape investigation. Paul Cambria told the Tribune that the grand jury wasn’t pushed back on his request, and he wasn’t sure why it was canceled. Cambria also doesn’t know when the grand jury will resume, only that it will happen soon. Others told the Tribune that it could happen sometime in the next two weeks. There’s no word how this may affectKane’s involvement in Blackhawks training camp, which kicks off on Sept. 18. http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2015/09/11/report-grand-jury-for-kane-case-to-resume-soon/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted September 16, 2015 http://www.csnchicago.com/blackhawks/patrick-kane-expected-be-blackhawks-camp?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted September 16, 2015 With all his bags of candy, the girls at camp are sleeping unreasy in their bunks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 http://www.csnchicago.com/blackhawks/patrick-kane-expected-be-blackhawks-camp?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo This bugs me.......he needs to be suspended indefinitely. I get its a team by team situation, but he should be treated just like Voynov. 2 Gordie Howe hat trick and derblaueClaus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordie Howe hat trick 110 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 This bugs me.......he needs to be suspended indefinitely. I get its a team by team situation, but he should be treated just like Voynov. Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derblaueClaus 1,668 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 This bugs me.......he needs to be suspended indefinitely. I get its a team by team situation, but he should be treated just like Voynov. No doubt. Gutless (non)decision by the NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeytownRules19 902 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/ct-blackhawks-kane-training-camp-20150917-story.html What a joke this whole statement/presser was today. The Blackhawks organization, Kane and his legal team are being destroyed right now by the media and I am laughing my bleep off right now. We should be blessed by how great of an organization we have. Screw Chicago, what a joke! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladdy16 2,154 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 I'm not grabbing a pitchfork or anything, but I seriously cannot even look at that guy right now. I've always thought he was a dbag and he's done nothing to dissuade me. This seems like a lose/lose situation for all involved no matter what they do. The Hawks should have seriously hired a publicist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ami 273 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) Witnessing all those classy moves by NHL, I fully expect Battman demands money LAK saved on Voynov contract to pay off that b**** who's sueing our innocent little boy Patric +20c to compensate him overpaying that taxi ride. Edited September 17, 2015 by ami 1 Gordie Howe hat trick reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 You know what is more disgusting than the Blackhawks organization not suspending Kane until this is resolved? The fact that the Blackhawks organization gave Kane a *public effing platform* to paint his accuser as a liar. A PRESS CONFERENCE. f*** Kane and f*** the s***ty ass Blackhawks. 3 TheXym, Gordie Howe hat trick and Ally reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 As much as I'd like to see him suffer if proven guilty, he hasn't been yet. It's inconsistent with the Voynov case, but in the Voynov case, it was more likely that he'd be charged and found guilty simply due to evidence and police witness. Kane's case is still open. It may not even get to the grand jury. If it doesn't, he is a free man and will need that camp to play hockey for your team. I can see Chicago's point in having him at camp. They need to prepare for the future, whichever way it unfolds. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Catch 22 Hawks should put him on the shelf until this is resolved Innocent until proven guilty? Yeah, stay classy Chicago Edited September 18, 2015 by Rivalred Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
