LeftWinger 4,959 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=779458 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) Oh hey, another guy with only a year left on his deal. Methinks the Leafs are hoping he plays well enough to ship him out for a decent draft pick at the deadline. Much like half of their roster. Edited September 17, 2015 by rick zombo 2 Hey man nice shot! and F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 Yeah, but why trade for a guy to do that for when there are a million guys who wouldn't cost you any assets to acquire. I think they'll plan on keeping Grabner. He's Babs' new Helm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 Yeah, but why trade for a guy to do that for when there are a million guys who wouldn't cost you any assets to acquire. I think they'll plan on keeping Grabner. He's Babs' new Helm. Beacuse those million other guys (Boyes, Setoguchi,Glencross) are already going to be at Leaf's camp on PTOs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 smart trade for the Leafs they get some space in terms of contract and a speedy winger. If Grabner plays well he'll get a better contract and the Leafs will ship him out for a pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) Sung to the melody of that Door's ditty: ...5 for 1 baby, 1 for 5, No one here* gets out alive... *Toronto 5 prospects for Grabs. FIVE. They must really have faith in their previous drafting capabilities. Edited September 17, 2015 by e_prime 1 PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 Haven't followed Grabner. Can someone tell me why he only played 34 games last year? Maybe Babs' and Shanny are looking for a reclamation project and are looking at that 34 goal 10-11 season. Seems like a good move for them since there's little risk since those prospects don't sound like much to me (though that just could be limited knowledge on my part). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) Injuries. Tumbled down the depth chart. Healthy scratch as other players stepped up while he was out. Here's good analysis of both Grabs and the prospects the Isles just nabbed up. http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/maple-leafs-land-michael-grabner-from-isles-for-a-boatload-of-contractser-prospects/ Edited September 17, 2015 by e_prime 1 PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 This is to dump contracts so that they can sign all their PTOs. Boyes, Glencross, Setoguchi Babs literally has a team of misfit toys/spare parts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 This is to dump contracts so that they can sign all their PTOs. Boyes, Glencross, Setoguchi Babs literally has a team of misfit toys/spare parts But they're all veterans. And ties go to the veteran. 1 MrazekFanBoy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted September 17, 2015 And the Toronto media will analyze this move for 5 days Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted September 18, 2015 But they're all veterans. And ties go to the veteran. William Nylander won't see the NHL until he's 24. The ole Gus Nyquist treatment. 1 MrazekFanBoy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted September 18, 2015 They are obviously trying to lure Tavares. 1 MrazekFanBoy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) William Nylander won't see the NHL until he's 24. The ole Gus Nyquist treatment.I really like him, but I want him, and marner to fail.The way Toronto fans talk about him makes me want to vomit, like he is good, but he's not gretzky and they act like he is. They are obviously trying to lure Tavares. And stamkos.And Eric staal. Edited September 18, 2015 by jimmyemeryhunter 2 Detroit \# 1 Fan and MrazekFanBoy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted September 18, 2015 I guess that makes Richard Panik his Jurco? Hope the guy likes the fourth line and riding the pine.Also, how many games until Corporal Komarov is in his top-six? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrazekFanBoy 223 Report post Posted September 18, 2015 I really like him, but I want him, and mariner to fail. The way Toronto fans talk about him makes me want to vomit, like he is good, but he's not gretzky and they act like he is. And stamkos. And Eric staal. babs slowly trying to build team canada Tavares Stamkos and Staal are just the beginning, the leafs are like the empire Lou is the emperor Shanny is Vader and Babs is an Evil version of Obi WanHe fell to the darkside, Holland is Yoda and Bowman is Qui gon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted September 18, 2015 babs slowly trying to build team canada Tavares Stamkos and Staal are just the beginning, the leafs are like the empire Lou is the emperor Shanny is Vader and Babs is an Evil version of Obi Wan He fell to the darkside, Holland is Yoda and Bowman is Qui gon I'll level with ya, I never really got into star wars.So I'll have to take your word for it. 1 MrazekFanBoy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted September 18, 2015 William Nylander won't see the NHL until he's 24. The ole Gus Nyquist treatment. William Nylander shouldn't see the NHL until after he's gone through puberty. 1 WingsAlways reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Nylander is a cocky undersized but very talented kid. Marner will need to add some serious muscle and bulk up a lot otherwise guys like Weber, Chara would absolutely kill him with a check. panik so far has proven way more than Jurco but yeah the anti Babcock crowd has to bring him up of course. The 2012 draft so far has been a disaster for the wings Edited September 18, 2015 by frankgrimes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted September 18, 2015 How has Panik proven "way more" than Jurco? Panik has 39 points in 151 games (0.258 points per game) and Jurco has 33 points in 99 games (0.333 points per game). So other than Panik being older and more experienced, Jurco is by far the better player with much higher potential in my opinion. You realize that Panik was a Lightning cast off, and was claimed off waivers by one of the worst teams in the league... 2 DatsyukianDekes and TheXym reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted September 18, 2015 I know that and for a cast off he has developed very well. Jurco may use more potential but he has yet to put it. Panik will give you an honest effort every shift although the Penguins overpaid tremendously for him with a first rounder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted September 18, 2015 The kid is 22 years old, he needs more than one full season to fulfill that potential... Penguins? Overpaid? First rounder? Who exactly are you talking about here?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted September 18, 2015 Forget it mixed up Panik and Vinnik. just like in Toronto this will be a clean slate chance for everyone but I'm very sure guys like Pulkinnen, Jurco won't be wings next fall of they don't step up their game simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted September 18, 2015 Step up their game? Frank, you could make that argument for players that have been in the league a couple years like Nyquist or Tatar, if they were having subpar seasons, or even Smith or Kindl if they don't show they belong, but not two guys that have barely gotten a shot. There is no chance that either Jurco or Pulkkinen are given up on this early in their careers, unless they completely fall flat (which I doubt) or someone comes calling specifically about them and they make an offer Kenny can't refuse (which I doubt)... 1 DatsyukianDekes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted September 18, 2015 Nylander is a cocky undersized but very talented kid. Marner will need to add some serious muscle and bulk up a lot otherwise guys like Weber, Chara would absolutely kill him with a check. panik so far has proven way more than Jurco but yeah the anti Babcock crowd has to bring him up of course. The 2012 draft so far has been a disaster for the wings You mean like how you always used to say that Subban was "cocky"? Or like how Chara and Weber absolutely kill Johnny Gaudrea because he's so small? Do you ever get tired of just repeating the same tropes over and over again or is that half the fun? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
