Roster Moves by the Wings

[Bill Berzeench 310]

Hopefully he's better soon. We need him.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

Smith has a chronic case of headupassitis. There is no cure.

[RedWingsRox 614]

Franzen on long term IR

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/red-wings-put-johan-franzen-long-term-injury-221434926--nhl.html

what are cap implications?

[DickieDunn 2,571]

Franzen on long term IR

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/red-wings-put-johan-franzen-long-term-injury-221434926--nhl.html

what are cap implications?

They get to go over the cap by his cap hit.

[Bill Berzeench 310]

Isles want good return.

This is a good chance for us to move Smith and Nyquist and get a solid right handed D back.

Kenny should be all over this.

[GMRwings1983 8,794]

Kenny doesn't go for players like Hamonic.

[Echolalia 2,961]

He allegedly wants to go to Weatern Canada, not Detroit, and the Islanders want an equally skilled defenseman in return to replace him.

Ie it's not happening. Of course all of the details will get lost a year or two from now when everyone says Holland sucks for not being able to acquire him for spare parts.

[rick zombo 3,739]

He allegedly wants to go to Weatern Canada, not Detroit, and the Islanders want an equally skilled defenseman in return to replace him.

Ie it's not happening. Of course all of the details will get lost a year or two from now when everyone says Holland sucks for not being able to acquire him for spare parts.

He has family Western Canada and wants to be close for personal reasons. A real GM like Nill or Yzerman would use pure willpower to induce a tectonic shift of the earth's crust, capable of moving the Pacific coast closer to Michigan. Holland sux.

[Echolalia 2,961]

He has family Western Canada and wants to be close for personal reasons. A real GM like Nill or Yzerman would use pure willpower to induce a tectonic shift of the earth's crust, capable of moving the Pacific coast closer to Michigan. Holland sux.

It's this kind of "do what I want" thinking that we need more of in Detroit. Holland plays by the rules too much. The laws of physics were meant to be broken Kenny.

[kliq 3,755]

Isles want good return.

This is a good chance for us to move Smith and Nyquist and get a solid right handed D back.

Kenny should be all over this.

I dont mean to be rude, but you really need to read more then a headline before creating a thread. He wants to move to the western conference, a trade to Detroit makes zero sense.

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[rick zombo 3,739]

In all seriousness though, they should trade him to Calgary strait up for Brodie.

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

Isles want good return.

This is a good chance for us to move Smith and Nyquist and get a solid right handed D back.

Kenny should be all over this.

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

What about some sort of 3 way deal??

Seeing as hamonic is from Winnipeg

Somethings like ...

Jets get

Hamonic and helm (both Manitoba kids)

Redwings get

Byfuglien (ufa at seasons end)

Islanders get

Smith and morrissey

Edited November 20, 2015 by nyqvististhefuture

[sputman 1,268]

We wouldn't want this lazy bum anyway. Can't even muster the energy to spell his own name right.

[e_prime 1,936]

Smith and morrissey

The Smiths are getting back together with Morrissey?!? Sweet.

What is wrong with this scenario is that the Isles aren't reallly getting a quality replacement for Hamonic RIGHT NOW... and that's what they want/need.

[Bill Berzeench 310]

I dont mean to be rude, but you really need to read more then a headline before creating a thread. He wants to move to the western conference, a trade to Detroit makes zero sense.

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I read an article that had a list of 5 teams, and calgary, edmonton, and colorado were on it. Instead of being rude, look at a map and measure the distances of those cities to Winnipeg. Minnesota and Chicago are the only 2 options that are clearly better than Detroit distance wise.

[kliq 3,755]

I read an article that had a list of 5 teams, and calgary, edmonton, and colorado were on it. Instead of being rude, look at a map and measure the distances of those cities to Winnipeg. Minnesota and Chicago are the only 2 options that are clearly better than Detroit distance wise.

What?

What does the distance between Calgary/Edmonton/Colorado and Winnipeg have to do with Detroit? All those teams play close to the west coast and in the western conference which is exactly where he wants to go. How are Minnesota & Chicago the only teams better Detroit distance wise? Compared to who?

[Bill Berzeench 310]

What?

What does the distance between Calgary/Edmonton/Colorado and Winnipeg have to do with Detroit? All those teams play close to the west coast and in the western conference which is exactly where he wants to go. How are Minnesota & Chicago the only teams better Detroit distance wise? Compared to who?

Ok, i think you need to read the nhl.com article and then look at a map. Not being a smartass This time. Honestly want to get on the same page as you.

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

The Smiths are getting back together with Morrissey?!? Sweet.

What is wrong with this scenario is that the Isles aren't reallly getting a quality replacement for Hamonic RIGHT NOW... and that's what they want/need.

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Your right ... But islanders are also in a position of weakness now that everyone knows harmonic wants to go to western Canada

They'd get smith who yes I know is nothing special but still a former first rounder AND morrissy who is the jets top rated prospect I'd say it's not a bad deal .... Maybe even throw in a 2nd or 3rd rounder in there somehow

Wings get an upgrade for is year with byfuglien and then see if they can retain him or not

Jets get 2 local kids and solidify the blue line for the next 3-5 yrs with harmonic Myers trouba

[kliq 3,755]

Ok, i think you need to read the nhl.com article and then look at a map. Not being a smartass This time. Honestly want to get on the same page as you.

I read the article, and I didnt see anything about Chicago or Minnesota. I dont know where you got those two teams from.

Detroit to Winnipeg is 1145 Miles, Saint Paul to Winnipeg is 466 miles, Chicago to Winnipeg is 863 Miles, Brooklyn to Winnipeg is 1656 miles.......If he loves NY but it is too far from home, I really really doubt Detroit wouldn't pose the same problem. If you read somewhere that he is willing to move to Chicago or Minnesota, they are still both closer to Detroit, and Minnesota by a significant distance.

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

We wouldn't want this lazy bum anyway. Can't even muster the energy to spell his own name right.

Bahaha.

That's hilarious.

Good work.

Yeah.

Hamonic to Calgary for Brodie seems plausible.

[e_prime 1,936]

o

Your right ... But islanders are also in a position of weakness now that everyone knows harmonic wants to go to western Canada

Except that the Isles really don't have to trade him at all. He's under contract. (Not that they won't honor his wishes)

Hamonic has also stated that he'll play out the year in Brooklyn, so a trade isn't necessarily imminent.

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[Bill Berzeench 310]

I read the article, and I didnt see anything about Chicago or Minnesota. I dont know where you got those two teams from.

Detroit to Winnipeg is 1145 Miles, Saint Paul to Winnipeg is 466 miles, Chicago to Winnipeg is 863 Miles, Brooklyn to Winnipeg is 1656 miles.......If he loves NY but it is too far from home, I really really doubt Detroit wouldn't pose the same problem. If you read somewhere that he is willing to move to Chicago or Minnesota, they are still both closer to Detroit, and Minnesota by a significant distance.

Exactly!! Now read about the 3 other teams mentioned - Colorado, Calgary, and Edmonton. Keep your homework assignment going.

[kliq 3,755]

Exactly!! Now read about the 3 other teams mentioned - Colorado, Calgary, and Edmonton. Keep your homework assignment going.

I'm done with your trolling, I dont even know why I give in.

There is no mention of any of these teams in the nhl.com article. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=788701

You want me to post the entire thing....fine.

Islanders' Hamonic cites family matter for trade ask

Thursday, 11.19.2015 / 1:20 PM / News

By Brian Compton - NHL.com Deputy Managing Editor

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SYOSSET, N.Y. -- It seemed like a routine practice day for New York Islanders defenseman Travis Hamonic on Thursday. He was smiling and joking with his teammates, the same way he always does.

The difference, though, was this was about an hour after he addressed the news with them reported Wednesday by Sportsnet that he requested a trade to Islanders general manager Garth Snow prior to the start of the season. Hamonic wants to be traded somewhere closer to his Winnipeg home for personal reasons.

"I would have liked to have the chance to talk to them and not have them seen it online first, but it is what it is and those things can't be changed, unfortunately," Hamonic said Thursday. "It was difficult. I guess you can ask them, but they were certainly very understanding of a personal situation, as I hope anyone would be in this situation.

"Those are guys you go to war with. Some of those guys I've been playing with for six years and really know really well. [Capuano] always talks about a brotherhood in there and everything else, but it certainly is. (I was) just explaining what was going on. It was probably one of the more difficult conversations I think I've had in life. It certainly wasn't easy, but they've been there for me for many years now in different situations in my life and my career and they've certainly been there this morning."

Hamonic, who lost his father Gerald to a heart attack when he was 10 years old, and Islanders brass managed to keep his request out of the media for several months. Nothing in Hamonic's play suggested something was going on away from the rink; he has three assists and a plus-5 rating in 19 games and leads the Islanders with an average of 23:20 of ice time per game.

"I've known for a long time," coach Jack Capuano said. "Travis and I obviously have talked about it over the last couple of months. But you can see the professionalism in him and what a teammate that he's been and what a first-class individual he's been. He gets the utmost respect from his teammates. You guys will talk to them and understand that it's a personal matter with him right now."

Hamonic is in the third season of a team-friendly contract that has an average annual value of $3.857 million. With the Islanders expected to return to the Stanley Cup Playoffs, it's hard to envision Snow trading Hamonic for prospects and/or draft picks. He's likely going to want a player who can step in and fill the void Hamonic would leave. Hamonic understands this could take a while, that Snow is simply not going to give him away.

Snow did not speak with reporters Thursday.

"I don't want to handcuff the team by any means," Hamonic said. "Garth has a job to do, and I completely understand that and I respect this process. I think I respect Garth tremendously, not just as a general manager but as a person as well. I think maybe in this business people overlook some of those things. He's going to do what he feels is best for the organization, and I've said that from the start that I signed here and I love it here. I really enjoy my teammates. Whatever Garth feels is best, it's not going to bother me. I'm ready to play here and battle hard and go to war every night. It hasn't been an issue for me so far this season. I continue to try to work hard and win here. That's our goal, and one thing I can guarantee and promise is it's not going change how I play on the ice."

"If you think Garth is just going to turn around and trade a guy, it's not happening," Capuano said. "It's going to happen if the deal is right. Travis has got a great contract as we know. He's a top-pairing defenseman in this League. He means the world to me and this hockey club. I've been around him a long time. If the right deal comes along, it comes along. For [the story] to break, it doesn't put any added pressure on our general manager. If anything, it'll probably make it tougher."

Islanders captain John Tavares has been Hamonic's teammate since the latter arrived in New York during the 2010-11 season. Tavares said he and the rest of the Islanders were understanding of Hamonic's issue and he's impressed with the way New York's defenseman has handled himself on the ice.

"It's a family in here," Tavares said. "Travis has been here for a long time. We know he wants to be here, but it's obviously for many reasons I think personally, there's things he's going through. It's important for him obviously wanting to be closer to home. For us, he's focused on helping this team and doing what he has to do to play. Nothing changes for us. He's like a brother to many of us. I've been with him here a long time, and he's a great guy.

"Being athletes, I think you learn to accept a lot of criticism, you learn to be hard on yourself and what it takes to be successful. But at the same time, you're human beings and everyone deals with a lot of things. We're there to support him, we're there for him and make sure we let him know that. Just focus on playing and I'm sure that's what he wants to do and that's what we want to do to keep things going here."

Hamonic, 25, was a second-round pick (No. 53) by the Islanders at the 2008 NHL Draft. It's the only organization he's ever known professionally. Starting with owner Charles Wang, he's grateful of the relationships that have been built over the past seven years and for the way Snow is handling this difficult task of trying to accommodate Hamonic while not doing anything to hinder the Islanders' chances this season and beyond.

"(I'm) handling it in strides," Hamonic said. "The root of all this is a personal family matter of mine that I hold dear to my heart. Obviously, things about my family have been well-documented in the past, but I think in this situation, it's probably as far as I'm going to go with it. It's a personal family matter.

"I probably wouldn't want to get into more detail, but I think the Islanders have been great with me throughout this whole process. I know people are going to say and write what they want and all that stuff, but it has nothing to do with the organization or how I've been treated here six years as playing and another two or three since I've been drafted. I've been honestly treated like gold from the start. Charles has been great, I've had a great relationship with him. I think maybe a lot of players don't have that good of (relationship) or are close to their owners. He's been unbelievable. [Capuano] has been one of the best coaches that I've played for.

"When we talked about his, Garth and I … I feel it was more on a personal level definitely. It wasn't just a player/GM thing. It was something that … he understands what this means for me and how difficult it is. He's really been there for me, and I can't thank him enough. Obviously I didn't intend for this to happen at all the way that it is. But I'm forced to deal with it."

[e_prime 1,936]

Jurco with a hatty tonight. Bring him back up. Put him in.

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