kliq 3,755 Report post Posted October 14, 2015 It'd be great if the front office was less worried about signing a guy with zero shot of adding anything to this roster and more concerned with making a decent trade to off-load some forwards for something in return. We have had a glut of mediocre talent at forward and the need for another solid defenseman for some time yet Holland seems fixated on getting Cleary his $950K. We are actually debating sending Larkin to the minors because we won't have roster space once Datsyuk returns...that's just plain stupid. I don't see why anything you just said, has anything to do with Cleary. Do you truly think that Holland spend all him time working on the Cleary contract, and as a result didn't focus on a trade? Do you think a team looking to trade a top 4 d-man were told Holland was busy, or that because of the Cleary contract, he didn't have time to do anything else. On July 1st, contracts are completed in essentially 1 day, sometimes hours. I am not an NHL GM, but I would have to guess that the Cleary contract effected nothing and took him no time at all. While I may not agree, if you have an issue with Holland not adding a second top 4 d-man this off season that is your prerogative. If you are trying to tell a narrative that Cleary has anything to do with it, that is ridicoulas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FifeHockeyNut 57 Report post Posted October 14, 2015 This is almost identical to how the wings approached Maltby's retirement, I don't remember the same animosity aimed at Maltby at that time. 3 Internet.Unknown, 55fan and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 897 Report post Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) This is almost identical to how the wings approached Maltby's retirement, I don't remember the same animosity aimed at Maltby at that time. But didn't Maltby try didn't make it and retired into whatever position he has now with the Wings? Vs Danny who is making a semifuss over things. I respect what Danny did to resurrect his career and playing on knees that finally gave out on him. But sometimes you have to look in the mirror and say I want to do X soooo bad but I can't anymore as my body just won't do it. Edited October 14, 2015 by AtlantaHotWings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mckinley25 677 Report post Posted October 14, 2015 But didn't Maltby try didn't make it and retired into whatever position he has now with the Wings? Vs Danny who is making a semifuss over things. I respect what Danny did to resurrect his career and playing on knees that finally gave out on him. But sometimes you have to look in the mirror and say I want to do X soooo bad but I can't anymore as my body just won't do it. How is Danny making a fuss? This is literally the exact same thing that happened with Maltby, he signed a two way contract, got placed on waivers and decided not to play for Grand Rapids. What is the problem? 5 krsmith17, PavelValerievichDatsyuk, 55fan and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) How is Danny making a fuss? This is literally the exact same thing that happened with Maltby, he signed a two way contract, got placed on waivers and decided not to play for Grand Rapids. What is the problem? Exactly. If he came out publicly and started bashing the Wings I would get this reaction, but he has done and said nothing. Edited October 16, 2015 by kliq 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,440 Report post Posted October 16, 2015 Craig Custance @CraigCustance 10m10 minutes ago Just spoke w/Dan Cleary who will report to Grand Rapids on Tuesday. Looks forward to mentoring young players: "I just needed some time." 3 krsmith17, barabbas16 and PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted October 16, 2015 Craig Custance @CraigCustance 10m10 minutes ago Just spoke w/Dan Cleary who will report to Grand Rapids on Tuesday. Looks forward to mentoring young players: "I just needed some time." So it wasn't a pre-spoken agreement that he'd be going down when he signed this year. He actually believed he deserved a spot in the NHL. Good god Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,440 Report post Posted October 16, 2015 So it wasn't a pre-spoken agreement that he'd be going down when he signed this year. He actually believed he deserved a spot in the NHL. Good god Or he was emotional upon realizing that his career is basically over, and the sport that he's literally destroyed his body to play has passed him by? Nah, nevermind. He's probably just a delusional jerkoff. 5 PavelValerievichDatsyuk, kliq, jimmyemeryhunter and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smite 399 Report post Posted October 16, 2015 So it wasn't a pre-spoken agreement that he'd be going down when he signed this year. He actually believed he deserved a spot in the NHL. Good god Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roboturner 562 Report post Posted October 16, 2015 I know this seemed alot like the Maltby situation, but the difference is Cleary still stuck around too long. Had Cleary gotten this deal the first time he came back begging for a contract and it was clear that he would have to earn his spot, there would have been no problem and no animosity. Only this last 2-way deal is the same as Malts, but that would mean ignoring that Cleary turned down a 3 year deal to test the market, didn't get anything, then came back and got two charity contracts when we didn't have space, and then he is in the Maltby situation. I'm not just going to ignore all that. And look, he's finally reporting to GR!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted October 16, 2015 Or he was emotional upon realizing that his career is basically over, and the sport that he's literally destroyed his body to play has passed him by? Nah, nevermind. He's probably just a delusional jerkoff. You really think Holland didn't tell him how it was going to play out before hand? Cleary couldn't make the team last season (with Babs) and we're even deeper this season Cleary IS delusional. I loved the guy for years but he still thinks he can play. Last year he was easily one of the worst players I've seen play for Detroit. If it wasn't a turnover, it was an instant shoot the puck down the ice. Whatever line he was on was made irrelevant. Hard working players are great to have in the early stages of their careers, but as they get older it just isn't enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mckinley25 677 Report post Posted October 16, 2015 I know this seemed alot like the Maltby situation, but the difference is Cleary still stuck around too long. Had Cleary gotten this deal the first time he came back begging for a contract and it was clear that he would have to earn his spot, there would have been no problem and no animosity. Only this last 2-way deal is the same as Malts, but that would mean ignoring that Cleary turned down a 3 year deal to test the market, didn't get anything, then came back and got two charity contracts when we didn't have space, and then he is in the Maltby situation. I'm not just going to ignore all that. And look, he's finally reporting to GR!! He was only compared to Maltby because he didn't make the cut and refused initially to report to grand rapids, exactly like Maltby. Him sticking around too long is an entirely different situation but I'm not even going to touch on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Berzeench 310 Report post Posted October 16, 2015 He's done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roboturner 562 Report post Posted October 16, 2015 He was only compared to Maltby because he didn't make the cut and refused initially to report to grand rapids, exactly like Maltby. Him sticking around too long is an entirely different situation but I'm not even going to touch on that. Even so, the other stuff is the reason he is getting s*** on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted October 16, 2015 Cleary will report to Grand Rapids http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2015/10/16/9556151/dan-cleary-will-report-to-grand-rapids-i-just-needed-some-time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted October 17, 2015 Newfie pride got in the way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aethernum 276 Report post Posted October 17, 2015 Yup, tonight's broadcast just confirmed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacksoni 418 Report post Posted October 26, 2015 Looks like our good old boy is back! He is reporting to GR. "Daniel Cleary is taking No 11 in GR. Andreas Athanasiou switches to No 12." https://twitter.com/detroithockey96 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted October 26, 2015 Looks like our good old boy is back! He is reporting to GR. "Daniel Cleary is taking No 11 in GR. Andreas Athanasiou switches to No 12." https://twitter.com/detroithockey96 lol what a rat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted October 26, 2015 lol what a rat Lol give him a break man the least he should be able to do after getting demoted is be able to keep his number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted October 26, 2015 Lol give him a break man the least he should be able to do after getting demoted is be able to keep his number. He deserved to be demoted... Should be thankful to be making 900K to be playing in the A. I guess he deserves this one for giving alfie 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) He deserved to be demoted... Should be thankful to be making 900K to be playing in the A. I guess he deserves this one for giving alfie 11 Its a respect thing. I would bet AA offered. Edited October 26, 2015 by kliq 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted October 26, 2015 Its a respect thing. I would bet AA offered. Yeah, thats possible for sure First thing i pictured was Cleary strutting into the change room demanding number 11 haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,908 Report post Posted October 26, 2015 That's ok, because AA will be wearing #11 in Detroit soon and Cleary will be...well, not wearing #11 in Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) DIdn't know AA was 11. That's my lucky number and I really like the kid. If he ends up as good as I think he will - then I'm buying that jersey. Unless, of course, you have to pay by the letter. If that's the case, I'm hoping Frk turns out. Edited October 27, 2015 by PavelValerievichDatsyuk 4 joesuffP, jimmyemeryhunter, 55fan and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites