kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted October 30, 2015 I never new the Wings were his fav team. That's insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted October 30, 2015 9m/yr would Be tough to work into the salary cap and re-sign our guys. But if he hadn't signed and the kings arent looking like contenders (and we get our stuff together) our first round pick to replace the one they lost would probably be enticing, along with some other assets that Wed need To get rid anyway for the cap/roster spot. Assuming they get an extension done pre trade, I'm sure they'd be able to make it work.Well Nyquist is signed for the next 5 years. Mantha and Larkin are on ELCso the only big one coming up will be Danny D. 10, 27 is a lot of money sure but you gotta pay to get. If it really happens and Lombardi continues to play hardball I don't care what it takes to get it done just do it. Kopitar would be instantly our best player, lessen the blow of losing Pasha and reducing the workload for Z..while Larkin can be groomed as a second line center. I mean someone like Kopitar doesn't make it to UFA anymore. But dreaming aside I'm absolutely shocked that Lombardi and Cheveldayoff are playing hardball with Ladd and Kopitar. Although it's great for the rest of the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted October 30, 2015 Kopitar in a wings jersey would be a dream come true. He's part of the reason I like the Kings. Also, out of nothing more than curiosity, I wonder when the last time a sign then trade happened. I can't think of one. usually it's the other way around. Anyway, trading for him would be the tough part.... I can't imagine him not re-signing here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted October 30, 2015 Well Nyquist is signed for the next 5 years. Mantha and Larkin are on ELC so the only big one coming up will be Danny D. 10, 27 is a lot of money sure but you gotta pay to get. If it really happens and Lombardi continues to play hardball I don't care what it takes to get it done just do it. Kopitar would be instantly our best player, lessen the blow of losing Pasha and reducing the workload for Z..while Larkin can be groomed as a second line center. I mean someone like Kopitar doesn't make it to UFA anymore. But dreaming aside I'm absolutely shocked that Lombardi and Cheveldayoff are playing hardball with Ladd and Kopitar. Although it's great for the rest of the league. Abby, helm, pulkkinen, mrazek, Ferraro and I'm pretty sure any of the d men that are out of waiver exceptions contracts all expire. So we probably have to make a move either way honestly, we can't keep all these guys. I never new the Wings were his fav team. That's insane. It used to be you grew up in a another country, the red wings were probably your favorite team.I think he's in the age bracket Just old enough for this to be true. Ha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted October 30, 2015 Abby, helm, pulkkinen, mrazek, Ferraro and I'm pretty sure any of the d men that are out of waiver exceptions contracts all expire. So we probably have to make a move either way honestly, we can't keep all these guys. It used to be you grew up in a another country, the red wings were probably your favorite team. I think he's in the age bracket Just old enough for this to be true. Ha. I'd drive Helm to the airport if it meant freeing up space for Kopitar. 2 BottleOfSmoke and e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted October 30, 2015 Helm, Abby won't cost a lot to re-sign...4,5 for years same with Helm. Ferraro, Pulkinnen could be traded to free up cap space. Mrazek is on ELC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted October 30, 2015 Helm, Abby won't cost a lot to re-sign...4,5 for years same with Helm. Ferraro, Pulkinnen could be traded to free up cap space. Mrazek is on ELCAlso iirc Andersson Is also on a one year deal.He's Honestly a pretty ideal 13th forward, and mrazek Is on a one year deal through the end of this season, he'll still be an RFA but he's no longer on his ELC. http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2014/7/1/5861384/free-agency-2014-red-wings-extend-petr-mrazek were gonna have some turn over but I don't know if its enough to get kopi And those we do keep. I'm not a cap expert though, so I'm sure there's a way to work it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Berzeench 310 Report post Posted October 30, 2015 Howard and Ericsson at 10.25 million is way better than Kopitar at 10.25 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted October 31, 2015 Give them Nyquist or Tatar and move him to wing. Better yet get Burns from SJ and play him at wing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aethernum 276 Report post Posted October 31, 2015 It's pretty incredible how we've made the playoffs 24 years in a row by refusing to overpay for overhyped free agents, refusing to be impatient with our pieces, and refusing to give up draft picks easily...and yet those are exactly the things fans on this forum want us to do more than anything. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted October 31, 2015 This team isn't as good as any of those teams. Too many small one dimensional forwards, too many bigger guys who play like they're tiny, and the D isn't close to good enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,343 Report post Posted October 31, 2015 As a Buff fan, i'd love him here. I think he is at his best, even offensively, when he is back on defense. Having the flexibility to have a player capable of jumping up on wing and playing defense is a huge plus also. After the moves we made, landing Green and Richards, considering recent history, I don't really have much confidence in another big move to bring him here, but i'd embrace it and be thrilled. I don't think many would like the price though. 1 jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Berzeench 310 Report post Posted October 31, 2015 As a Buff fan, i'd love him here. I think he is at his best, even offensively, when he is back on defense. Having the flexibility to have a player capable of jumping up on wing and playing defense is a huge plus also. After the moves we made, landing Green and Richards, considering recent history, I don't really have much confidence in another big move to bring him here, but i'd embrace it and be thrilled. I don't think many would like the price though. Good post. I agree. Gonna take Mantha + to land him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,916 Report post Posted October 31, 2015 I still say it won't take Mantha. Look at all the pending UFA's that were traded last season, it didn't take that much to move them. Even Kessel didn't garner a TOP prospect and he wasn't even a pending UFA. No team is looking to overpay for a player they may not even retain after July. The ONLY way it'll cost a player like Mantha is if Holland doesn't care if he loses Byf or Mantha and just wants to outbid all other teams. Unless another team has an inside track or is aobut to negotiatie a deal to sign Byf, I cannot think of one team that would give away a 1st, roster player AND one of their top 3 prospects just for a rental, no rental is worth that, unless, like I said, he commits to a contract the same day he is acquired. I still maintain that Helm, Sproul (or XO) and a 1st would be plenty to obtain him, it may even be overpayment and a ton to lose if Byf walks after July. Especially if the Wings don't get their act together, that 1st rounder may be a good one. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted October 31, 2015 trade for wideman probably only cost andy and kindl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted October 31, 2015 I don’t see this happening, at least not now. First of all, there is a strong change that Det and Win will be in competition this year over the wildcard. If Win wanted to trade him, I'm sure their first choice would be a team in the West. Secondly, they are in a similar situation as us, I don’t see them unloading as they want to make a run as well. Maybe if come January they are out of it and we are in it, then it will be a different story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted October 31, 2015 trade for wideman probably only cost andy and kindl I don't think Andy and Kindl returns us anything. If anything the other team is doing a favor getting rid of the contracts and We'd have to give them a pick for it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings7 62 Report post Posted October 31, 2015 I don’t see this happening, at least not now. First of all, there is a strong change that Det and Win will be in competition this year over the wildcard. If Win wanted to trade him, I'm sure their first choice would be a team in the West. Secondly, they are in a similar situation as us, I don’t see them unloading as they want to make a run as well. Maybe if come January they are out of it and we are in it, then it will be a different story. We are not in the same conference as WPG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Berzeench 310 Report post Posted October 31, 2015 We are not in the same conference as WPG Yah, wings should be ok to trade with the jets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted October 31, 2015 We are not in the same conference as WPG Well that's embarrassing, I know that. I dont know what I was thinking. I take back the first part of what I said then. Still stand by the second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Berzeench 310 Report post Posted November 1, 2015 Well that's embarrassing, I know that. I dont know what I was thinking. I take back the first part of what I said then. Still stand by the second. No prob. You just forgot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted November 1, 2015 Secondly, they are in a similar situation as us, I don’t see them unloading as they want to make a run as well. Maybe if come January they are out of it and we are in it, then it will be a different story. I think this is the issue. They may have no chance in hell in re-signing him, but why would they let him go for anything less than something that's going to help them in their playoff run. They're in the toughest/tightest division in the league and they'll need Buff or someone of his caliber just to ensure they're in the Wild Card picture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl'sWings 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2015 I like the idea of getting a player of dustins tier. However, every team is only interested in a few players: Nyquist, Tatar, maybe a few prospects, you get the point. They dont want grinders like Jurco. Perhaps Pulkkinen and a draft pick or two could score Byfugelin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luvmnger 125 Report post Posted November 2, 2015 imagine getting rid of ericcsson & smith and adding wideman & bufuglien? yeowza! we would have to lose some cash overhead, and some talent, but what an improvement! calgary would want active forwards (jurco/sheahan/ferraro) while winnipeg would want future defense.(xo/sproul..etc.) anaheim "might" be interested in smith+3rd for fowler...which i would do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Berzeench 310 Report post Posted November 2, 2015 Anyone for Byfuglien at forward? I like having 7 guys in the lineup who can play d in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites