HockeytownRules19 902 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 There it is Detroit Red Wings @DetroitRedWings 3m3 minutes ago UPDATE: Ken Holland announced today that the team has signed LW Justin Abdelkader to a seven-year contract extension Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 7 years 4.25 per Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 Not bad actually. Good for Abby. He'll be wearing the A soon 2 krsmith17 and TheXym reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 So we have 18M tied into Ericcson, Kindl, Abby, and Quincey Who's making fun of Toew's and Kane's contracts now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 Abby is the prototypical Red Wing that proves if you're a real professional, that works hard the possibilities are endless. He'll be a great veteran presence, hopefully his body holds up. Hasn't missed any significant time his whole career so I'm positive he won't break So we have 18M tied into Ericcson, Kindl, Abby, and Quincey Who's making fun of Toew's and Kane's contracts now? You're comparing 4 players salary to 2 and two of those guys are done after this season. Our salary situation is pretty good right now. Ericsson is the only guy that might be overpaid and realistically he isn't. 3 TheXym, krsmith17 and Opie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rooter2309 28 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 Kenny figures this will be Yzermans problem in a few years. 2 roboturner and xtrememachine1 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 Kenny figures this will be Yzermans problem in a few years.Hah! 1 roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Abby is the prototypical Red Wing that proves if you're a real professional, that works hard the possibilities are endless. He'll be a great veteran presence, hopefully his body holds up. Hasn't missed any significant time his whole career so I'm positive he won't break You're comparing 4 players salary to 2 and two of those guys are done after this season. Our salary situation is pretty good right now. Ericsson is the only guy that might be overpaid and realistically he isn't. He's our arguably worst defenceman and paid 4.25M... for the next 6 years.... Wouldn't say were in a good cap situation. The only reason were under the cap right now is because Franzen is on IR. Bottom line is alot of guys on our team are overpaid Edited November 12, 2015 by WingsallTheway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 I wouldn't say anybody is overpaid actually. E is objectively a top 4 defensemen on this team despite what you think about him. We have too many players not too much salary. Who in your mind is overpaid besides Ericsson which is objectively wrong? Kindl? He's gone next year so I'm not worried about it, not like he has a massive cap hit anyways 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewdanna 143 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 The cap is going up and will continue to do so. This is a fair deal. 1 xtrememachine1 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 Abby is like Dan Cleary 2.0. He's a heart and soul guy who's inauspicious start will yield a very productive player for the next handful of years. After which time we'll renegotiate as he declines. I haven't felt this good about talent management since Dolph Ziggler cashed in Money in the Bank on Del Rio. And we all know that turned out just fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) I wouldn't say anybody is overpaid actually. E is objectively a top 4 defensemen on this team despite what you think about him. We have too many players not too much salary. Who in your mind is overpaid besides Ericsson which is objectively wrong? Kindl? He's gone next year so I'm not worried about it, not like he has a massive cap hit anyways He shouldn't be a top 4 dman...that money could have went elsewhere to a legit top 4. I don't understand how its ok to pay him that much just because we were forced to give him top minutes. He plays top pairing minutes even though he plays like a 6th dman Quincey is overpaid, Kindl is here next season as well. Even Green is overpaid. Abby's contract will be bad in 3-4 years. #1,2 defenceman who make roughly the same as Quincey and Green: Roman Josi 4M OEL 5.5M Keith 5.5M Adam Larsson 4M Yandle 3M Edited November 12, 2015 by WingsallTheway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeytownRules19 902 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun 53s53 seconds ago Abdelkader deal is front-loaded, more than $20 million in the first four years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rooter2309 28 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 CapFriendly @CapFriendly Justin Abdelkader DET 7yr extension - AAV $4.25M 2016-17 - $5.5M 2017-19 - $5M 2019-20 - $4.75M 2020-21 - $3.5M 2021-23 - $3M #CapFriendly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 He shouldn't be a top 4 dman...that money could have went elsewhere to a legit top 4. I don't understand how its ok to pay him that much just because we were forced to give him top minutes. He plays top pairing minutes even though he plays like a 6th dman Quincey is overpaid, Kindl is here next season as well. Even Green is overpaid. Abby's contract will be bad in 3-4 years. Well nobody agrees with you. No top four defensemen are playing for under 3M around the league that should give you some realistic expectations. Ericsson is a top 4 around the league Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Well nobody agrees with you. No top four defensemen are playing for under 3M around the league that should give you some realistic expectations. Ericsson is a top 4 around the league I find it hard to believe 29 other NHL teams would welcome Ericsson at his caphit, even if he fit. If he is a top 4dman then my expectations of a top 4 NHL defenceman have to be drastically lowered Edited November 12, 2015 by WingsallTheway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings7 62 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 I think this is way to long of a deal and for arguably too much money. We've seen this before, Franzen. Why not just do old school deals of 4 years or less? I hope he works out. He definitely needs to start scoring now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NerveDamage 4,176 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 Justin Abdelkader DET 7yr extension - AAV $4.25M 2016-17 - $5.5M 2017-19 - $5M 2019-20 - $4.75M 2020-21 - $3.5M 2021-23 - $3M Cap Friendly reported Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 Why does everyone consider Franzen's contract some sort of failure? We got great production out of him for his cap hit and now him likely going on LTIR he has no cap hit at all. I'd say it worked out pretty well for us 4 rick zombo, PavelValerievichDatsyuk, Internet.Unknown and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 Even if the cap stayed the same, these 4M cap hits aren't really going to affect how you build your team. The term just guarantees he stays a wing for life, not a trade able player and they would never take him anyways. It's those 7-10M deals that prevent you from making deals. With those contracts your accepting the core of your team and that it will never change, you live and die by those deals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Berzeench 310 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 So we have 18M tied into Ericcson, Kindl, Abby, and Quincey Who's making fun of Toew's and Kane's contracts now? These guys play at least!! Howard, Franzen, and Cleary cost $10 mil momil Like the abby signing, but Holland is a buffoon. Well nobody agrees with you. No top four defensemen are playing for under 3M around the league that should give you some realistic expectations. Ericsson is a top 4 around the league No he's not. I agree with him. Please speak for yourself only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,961 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 Meh, just a bit more than I was looking at, but heck, if Franzen stays LTIR, then it's almost a wash. I agree with you's though, Ericsson IS NOT a top 4 D-man and gets paid maybe not too much, but for too long. Good thing is, Q will be off the books next year, Richards (if not traded at the deadline) will also be off the books. You have to guess DD is going to cost you at least E's money and Mrazek is going to be at least $3.5M if not closer to $5M. It's going to get tight, very tight. Someone said it earlier, a few guys are well overpaid on this team for the results we get. Just look at any cap sight, they are the team with the highest cap on most days. The highest paid team and we are not Stanley Cup favorites outside of our own minds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 Glad to see him locked up, not sure about the 7 years though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tr!PoD#19 524 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 Kenny the clown strikes again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings7 62 Report post Posted November 12, 2015 We did not get good production out of Franzen. That's super silly to say. He's barely played and when has has, besides year 1 prior to signing long term, he has been downright dreadful…. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites