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Bill Berzeench

When does Larkin get the C?

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Why did they do it for Yzerman, then? Im not trying to insult Hank or Dats at all. I just think Laekin is THAT good, and I think Sheahan has good leadership qualities (plays every game, is big, and communicates well).

Being big is a good leadership quality?

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While I agree he would make a great captain, right now is not the time. Z will wear the C until he retires, which could be several more years down the road. If Kronwall or Datsyuk leave or hang up their skates in a couple years, I could see him getting an A, but as good as he is, he's in no way ready for the captain role yet.

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We are going to be such a power house when AA Mantha and Svech are up full time so much speed and skill I don't understand why Kenny gave Abby that contract, the term is just too long he won't be able to hang on to that role for long

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OP must be to young to remember the Yzerman situation. That was the "Dead things" era and Yzerman was clearly the savior for us starting from his rookie year. Even then he had to learn from players like Danny Gare how to lead. Him being named the youngest captain was more out of a vision of the future & symbolic of breaking free of that old way of doing things.

Completly different situation than Larkin and the current Wings. Although I am pumped up about Larkin, and see him as a future C, the Wings have great leadership already and Hank is a tremendous Captain.

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OP must be to young to remember the Yzerman situation. That was the "Dead things" era and Yzerman was clearly the savior for us starting from his rookie year. Even then he had to learn from players like Danny Gare how to lead. Him being named the youngest captain was more out of a vision of the future & symbolic of breaking free of that old way of doing things.

Completly different situation than Larkin and the current Wings. Although I am pumped up about Larkin, and see him as a future C, the Wings have great leadership already and Hank is a tremendous Captain.

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You are making my point for me. The Red Wings are not far away from a decade of nothing happening. I know Zetterberg is NOT the reason the Red Wings don't come out looking like the same team every game, but the fact is that they've been an inconsistent team for a while now. I think Larkin represents that same type of glimmer that Yzerman represented. He's the face of the franchise now, and the player that stabilizes the team. We are talking about Larkin and excited to see Larkin EVERY single game. We know the Wings can win any game because of him. That's the kind of player you make captain.

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You are making my point for me. The Red Wings are not far away from a decade of nothing happening. I know Zetterberg is NOT the reason the Red Wings don't come out looking like the same team every game, but the fact is that they've been an inconsistent team for a while now. I think Larkin represents that same type of glimmer that Yzerman represented. He's the face of the franchise now, and the player that stabilizes the team. We are talking about Larkin and excited to see Larkin EVERY single game. We know the Wings can win any game because of him. That's the kind of player you make captain.

Larkin is NOT the face of the franchise, get a grip. Half of hockey fans I talk to don't even know who he is yet

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So when?

I think that question has been answered about 25 times in this thread. When Yzerman was named captain this franchise was not exactly flowing with pride or confindence. Nor did it have any recognizable players. They knew they were hanging there hat on Yzerman for years to come. Larkin is an amazing player and I don't question his ability to be a captain one day but he will have to wait his turn.

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You are making my point for me. The Red Wings are not far away from a decade of nothing happening. I know Zetterberg is NOT the reason the Red Wings don't come out looking like the same team every game, but the fact is that they've been an inconsistent team for a while now. I think Larkin represents that same type of glimmer that Yzerman represented. He's the face of the franchise now, and the player that stabilizes the team. We are talking about Larkin and excited to see Larkin EVERY single game. We know the Wings can win any game because of him. That's the kind of player you make captain.

The kind of payer you make captain is the kind of player that has people want to follow him, not be forced to. None of us were in the locker room when Yzerman was named captain, but I am guessing that with the dynamic they had at the time and the players they had at the time that players wanted to lineup behind him and for the situation it worked

This is not the situation now. Forcing the C on Larkin will be just that, putting a C on him, it wont make him the the leader. You cant force things like this, you need to let him happen organically. Do you really think that players like Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Kronwall etc. are going to look at Larkin as their "leader"? Maybe down the road, but not anytime soon. I feel you are confusing "skill set" with "leadership". Being the most skilled player doesnt mean you should be the leader (that would be Datsyuk anyways).

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The kind of payer you make captain is the kind of player that has people want to follow him, not be forced to. None of us were in the locker room when Yzerman was named captain, but I am guessing that with the dynamic they had at the time and the players they had at the time that players wanted to lineup behind him and for the situation it worked

This is not the situation now. Forcing the C on Larkin will be just that, putting a C on him, it wont make him the the leader. You cant force things like this, you need to let him happen organically. Do you really think that players like Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Kronwall etc. are going to look at Larkin as their "leader"? Maybe down the road, but not anytime soon. I feel you are confusing "skill set" with "leadership". Being the most skilled player doesnt mean you should be the leader (that would be Datsyuk anyways).

I have never played with Larkin, so I will just comment from what I've read, seen, and heard. Ive read that he is an excellent leader on and off the ice. Ive seen through his time at Ann Arbor and short time with Detroit that he has unstoppable determination and his play is extraordinary. And Ive heard his interviews where he has said he wants more and wants the team to depend on him. Everything Im picking up from Larkin is SCREAMING "Captain" to me.

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I have never played with Larkin, so I will just comment from what I've read, seen, and heard. Ive read that he is an excellent leader on and off the ice. Ive seen through his time at Ann Arbor and short time with Detroit that he has unstoppable determination and his play is extraordinary. And Ive heard his interviews where he has said he wants more and wants the team to depend on him. Everything Im picking up from Larkin is SCREAMING "Captain" to me.

I wont disagree with anything you are saying, its the timing that is wrong. Like I said, he needs to naturally become the leader.

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