Ferraro on waivers

[kliq 3,755]

Bolded the important part.

Its funny how some people feel that EVERY single pick needs to turn into a stud or the GM is doing a bad job. People that are going to start criticizing Holland for his drafting skills either have zero clue what they are talking about, are trolling, or dont like Holland and will say anything they can against him.

[WingsallTheway 383]

You have a reading and comprehension issue. Probably too fixated on searching for trolls. I was pointing out that Holland shouldnt be giving away our prospects for free. Trade them for ANYTHING. A 32nd overall pick is close to a 1st round draft choice. We just gave up an NHL calibur player for no reason. That's bad management. We could have placed 2 other players on waivers that wouldnt have been claimed (Andersson and Miller), and we could have received future considerations in a trade for Ferraro. Instead, Holland did NOTHING and let him go to Boston for free. Stupid.

Just because he was drafted high doesn't make him an NHL caliber player. If his last name wasn't Ferarro and he was still eligible, he'd be in the minors for a long time.

Noone wouldve traded for Ferarro, but what does Boston have to lose by taking him for free when they need to replace Chris Kelly

Players get lost on waivers all the time, its a numbers game. Some players fit where others don't. See your boy, Miller. TB was horrible when we picked him up.

Edited November 23, 2015 by WingsallTheway

[kipwinger 8,524]

Are there GMs out there who don't put players on waivers?

[marcaractac 3,963]

I was pointing out that Holland shouldnt be giving away our prospects for free. Trade them for ANYTHING. A 32nd overall pick is close to a 1st round draft choice. We just gave up an NHL calibur player for no reason. That's bad management. We could have placed 2 other players on waivers that wouldnt have been claimed (Andersson and Miller), and we could have received future considerations in a trade for Ferraro. Instead, Holland did NOTHING and let him go to Boston for free. Stupid.

The thing you're overlooking here is that other GM's are not gonna give up assets for a player that will likely turn out to be a career AHLer. He has no value in any sort of trade. He is the definition of the type of player waivers is for.

Andersson would have been claimed as well. Miller would have been claimed a hell of a lot sooner than Boston, despite what you think about him.

[Buppy 1,720]

I was pointing out that Holland shouldnt be giving away our prospects for free. Trade them for ANYTHING. A 32nd overall pick is close to a 1st round draft choice. We just gave up an NHL calibur player for no reason. That's bad management. We could have placed 2 other players on waivers that wouldnt have been claimed (Andersson and Miller), and we could have received future considerations in a trade for Ferraro. Instead, Holland did NOTHING and let him go to Boston for free. Stupid.

At least you got your wish to see Ferraro replace a Miller on someone's roster. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=789180&navid=nhl:topheads

[Internet.Unknown 422]

The term "prospect" shouldn't apply to any dude drafted six years ago.

[WingsallTheway 383]

We have trouble landing spots for prospects on our club in any role, that includes all of the top 12. Callahan, Mantha, Athanasiou, Callahan, and Jurco could all play in the NHL. Same with our D we have 3 guys ready to go but we have no need for more bottom pairing Dmen. Only type of player I can see jumping right on right away is a legit top 4 prospect on D.

What's to think that other NHL teams don't have this problem as well? Would they rather give a home-grown player a shot or make a trade for someone like Ferarro? The only way these guys are going to move around is waiver claims and free agent signings.

Imagine we traded for someone like Tangradi last year? I mean, he was drafted 42nd overall in 2007...

Edited November 23, 2015 by WingsallTheway

[Bill Berzeench 310]

Ferraro had value. We let him go for nothing. That's not good player management.

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[Buppy 1,720]

Yah, if you dont like someone else's opinion, then it's trolling. I get your game. Instead of debating with facts and reason, just use insults and call people trolls. Real fun.

Ferraro had value. We let him go for nothing. That's not good player management.

No, not really.

Usually about 10-15 players get picked up off waivers every year. It's normal player management.

[Andy Pred 48 337]

is there a list anywhere of the 50 players we have on contract?

[kliq 3,755]

Yah, if you dont like someone else's opinion, then it's trolling. I get your game. Instead of debating with facts and reason, just use insults and call people trolls. Real fun.

Ferraro had value. We let him go for nothing. That's not good player management.

Not true at all, look through my posting history. I have never called anyone else a troll before and I always debate with facts and reason. Lots of people have different opinions then mine and that's fine.

[WingsallTheway 383]

Yah, if you dont like someone else's opinion, then it's trolling. I get your game. Instead of debating with facts and reason, just use insults and call people trolls. Real fun.

Ferraro had value. We let him go for nothing. That's not good player management.

Who would you compare Ferarro to in order to equate his value?

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

He improved quite a bit I thought this year... Much more energy and faster. He was a solid 4th line, definitely should have been Andersson or Jurco instead of him.

We could probably get a 2nd round pick for Jurco, at worst a 3rd.

And Andersson may be slower, but he's bigger, stronger, smarter and better defensively than Ferraro.

I wish he would've made it to grand rapids but he'll end up back in the AHL at some point anyway.

Ha.

Ferraro.

Over Jurco.

Madness.

Who would you compare Ferarro to in order to equate his value?

Bobby Farnham.

Also waived.

Also picked up.

Is a healthy scratch blocking a better prospect who needs to be on the team.

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

Yah, if you dont like someone else's opinion, then it's trolling. I get your game. Instead of debating with facts and reason, just use insults and call people trolls. Real fun.

Ferraro had value. We let him go for nothing. That's not good player management.

at best we would get a 7th round pick for him, which there's no way to know if anyone would even have paid that. I'm not sure who all put in a bid for him, but Boston got him and its not like they're the last place team.(the lowest ranked team to put in the claim gets the player.)

So put yourself in that situation.

Would you rather have a 7th round pick(that would probably be a conditional pick based on whether or not he stays in the lineup) or take the chance that he'll clear waivers and you can keep him in the system.

MAYBE a 7th round pick, or the chance to keep the player you invested a 2nd round pick/and years of development in. It could be argued that Not trying to keep him in your system would be worse asset management. And losing a player with an actual chance of being part of the teams future would DEFINITELY be worse asset management.

And yeah, he was almost a 1st round pick in 2009, Would you trade anything for Scott Glennie? After all, he actually was a first round pick in 2009(8th overall which is close to a top 5 pick) and Boston definitely wouldn't have given us anything for him, even just *future considerations* (which are essentially worthless now anyway) like you said we're division rivals, they wouldn't trade with us.

And having a different opinion is fine but don't pretend that you use any kind of facts or reason that correlate your opinions. And debating with someone who has already made their mind up that they're right no matter what anyone else says isn't really a debate. Its more like talking to a wall.

Edited November 23, 2015 by jimmyemeryhunter

[e_prime 1,936]

I can't even.

[LeftWinger 4,959]

Bottom line guys, it always stinks to lose someone for nothing...but think of it this way we lost Ferraro and gained Larkin. Jurco is projected to be a higher end player, so I understand keeping him. When it comes to Miller or Andy, its obvious Holland and his coaches feel when it comes to 4th liners those two are the better option. Its not like Holland is beyond waiving vets (Cleary) so I am sure he considered all options. He may have even told Ferraro that he is doing it in HOPES that a team claims him to give him the chance he deserves. Its not like the organization didn't want him, but just ran out of room. This was doing Ferraro a favor to further his NHL career.

(that being said, I am sure glad we didn't lose him for nothing to protect Franzen! )

Good luck Landon! Prove to the world that you belong!

Edited November 23, 2015 by LeftWinger

[frankgrimes 1,836]

Will miss the Wings analysis from his father on Leafs Lunch. Landon never complained tried hard but sadly it hasn't worked out for him here so best of luck in Boston, he should be able to make that roster with all the injury problems.

[Jacksoni 418]

Ray Ferraro's son can play and belongs in the NHL, which Boston Bruins displayed with the pickup. Every waiver loss is bad, but this is the way management wanted to go.

Best of luck Landon! Can't go wrong with a club that once housed the great Bobby Orr and his "sidekick" Phil Esposito. Just don't score on us on Wednesday. I bet you're itching for that if you're in the lineup.

Edited November 23, 2015 by Jacksoni

[Bill Berzeench 310]

Watch him score the game winner the next time we face the Bruins.

Good luck Landon - hope you get the ice time in Beantown.

Wednesday.

[Never_Retire_Steve 35]

Sad to see this. I don't think it's a horrible move since he has certainly underperformed expectation, however, I was really excited when we drafted him and it's a shame he didn't pan out like I expected him t.

[Richdg 267]

Good for him. Guys like Ferraro are a dime a dozen. 4th line checkers at best. He cleared waivers last year and didn't get claimed, so this is an improvement for him.

[Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453]

I'll live. Best of luck to him, I'd rather have him over Andersson but that's just me.

[barabbas16 499]

Watch him score the game winner the next time we face the Bruins.

Good luck Landon - hope you get the ice time in Beantown.

If he hadn't scored one last year and it would be his 1st NHL goal, I would say he'd definitely score against Detroit.

[puckbags 863]

Good for him. Guys like Ferraro are a dime a dozen. 4th line checkers at best. He cleared waivers last year and didn't get claimed, so this is an improvement for him.

Exactly, fringe player. No big loss..moving on...

[kipwinger 8,524]

Look on the bright side, at least we've still got Pierre Turgeons kid. We are still covered if we decide we need an undersized, tweener, center who is living of his last name's legacy.