sjr2012 439 Report post Posted January 22, 2016 Babs tried it a few times and it didn't seems to work out. They seemed to herky jerky, like they were both trying to be the same thing at the same time. But maybe Blash can figure something else out. tats works better with dats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted January 23, 2016 Abby Z LARKIN tats dats richards goose shehan juro helm glen pulks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted January 23, 2016 Yeah, Nyquist was with dats tonight, I just don't think they're that good together. They both do better with the puck on the their stick and Nyquist can't play net front, which he ends up doing with Datsyuk him and helm. Jurco Tatar Sheahan was together again tonght, and they were (unsurprisingly) awesome together again. I really wish babs would have left them together when they were playing dominant as a third line.. the chemistry they would have by now would be amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 23, 2016 I've said for a while now that the Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco line should stay intact, and they were arguably our best line again tonight. If they are not together for the foreseeable future, I will be very disappointed... I'd go with... Larkin - Datsyuk - Richards Nyquist - Zetterberg - Abdelkader Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco Helm - Glendening Pulkkinen 3 jimmyemeryhunter, TheXym and amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted January 23, 2016 Get Helm off a scoring line. I don't care who you put there. Jurco and Pulk haven't been lighting it up, but at least they've scored in the AHL. Hell, even Glendening would be better. Just ANYONE but Helm. 1 DatsyukianDekes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted January 23, 2016 Get Helm off a scoring line. I don't care who you put there. Jurco and Pulk haven't been lighting it up, but at least they've scored in the AHL. Hell, even Glendening would be better. Just ANYONE but Helm. 100% agree. I don't dislike Blash at all but he's driving me nuts by keeping Helm on that line. It's not working, that line would be a threat if he moved Jurco or Pulks there instead. 1 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted January 23, 2016 Putting someone with speed next to Pavel seems to help him though, he doesn't have to chase down pucks constantly, but I don't love the idea of having helm in the top6. Also, Jurco has been playing pretty well lately, it seems like he's getting confident carrying the puck which is good. 3 krsmith17, PavelValerievichDatsyuk and 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 960 Report post Posted January 23, 2016 I agree that switching Helm for Jurco is a good idea. Jurco is looking great in the past couple couple games and it could be a good idea to stroke his ego here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted January 23, 2016 Datsyuk wants Helm on his line I think Blash straught up said that in a recent interview Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 25, 2016 Jurco is finally playing the way we (most of us) knew he was capable. He's playing with a ton of confidence, and with that he can / will be a very dangerous player. I'd like to see a line of Tatar - Datsyuk - Jurco, but if Datsyuk really is against that (not sure why he would be...) and he actually does want Helm on his line (not sure why he would...), I'd go back to that 3rd line of Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco. Every time they're together, they're very dangerous, not sure why Blashill keeps straying from it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted January 25, 2016 Datsyuk wants Helm on his line I think Blash straught up said that in a recent interview I think this is the case where the coach needs to be the coach. Datsyuk may be the wily veteran and I get that you need to give them some control, but when it's not best for the team or the line the coach needs to step in. 2 e_prime and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted January 25, 2016 Datsyuk needs the absolute best players paired with him to get him going. Helm isn't chopped liver, but he's not our best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) Larkin - Datsyuk - Richards Nyquist - Zetterberg - Abdelkader Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco Helm - Glendening - Pulkkinen maybe? Edited January 25, 2016 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) Larkin - Datsyuk - Richards Nyquist - Zetterberg - Abdelkader Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco Helm - Glendening - Pulkkinen maybe? Nyquist sucks with Z now. I really don't want him near him. Larkin and Z work much better than Datsyuk and Larkin do. Tatar is the guy for Datsyuk in my opinion. They just always seem to work together. Larkin and Z have awesome chemistry. But Tatar, Sheahan and Jurco is working so not sure what Datsyuk can get. Maybe Pulkkinen. Edited January 25, 2016 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted January 25, 2016 Welp, I guess since Nyquist isn't working out, we'll just have to trade him! (see other thread for that! ) I'd like Pulk with Dats, but that puts Ricahrds on the 4th...I don't see Abby going there, so I guess it'll be Helm - Glen - Rich Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) Would rather have Richards on 4Th than Pulk. Richards has been pretty useless to us Edited January 25, 2016 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted January 26, 2016 This may sound crazy but wouldn't mind trying this.... Larkin- Z-Abby Tatar-Datsyuk-Sheahan Nyquist- Richards-pulk Jurco- glenny- helm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 5, 2016 Red Wings have recalled Andreas Athanasiou from the Griffins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted February 5, 2016 I have a dream...of a roster without Glendening or Anderson. Its rough knowing I'll inevitably be disappointed. Nyq-Z-Abby Lark-Dats-Tatar Richards-Sheahan-Pulk Jurco-Helm-AA 2 GoWings1905 and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted February 5, 2016 I have a dream...of a roster without Glendening or Anderson. Its rough knowing I'll inevitably be disappointed. Nyq-Z-Abby Lark-Dats-Tatar Richards-Sheahan-Pulk Jurco-Helm-AA Couldn't agree more. The PK is bottom ten in the league, given up four PP goals in two games. 29 other teams didn't want Andersson, Glendening is awful and somehow the Wings couldn't survive without one or both of them? It is nonsense to defend their spots being cemented solely because of their PK "ability." There are plenty of guys in the lineup you proposed that could effectively kill penalties. Your team can't score goals and you keep Joakim Andersson dressed over the guy that led the AHL in goals last season. Blashill's usage of his forwards is horrendous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted February 5, 2016 I've really soured on anyone who can't get the puck and do something with it. I don't care how many shots you block or how gritty you are. If you don't possess the puck you suck in the modern game. What good are you doing if you block a shot or break up a pass and the give the puck back to the other team for another try? Our WORST possession forwards are on the pk. How do you clear the puck if you can't get it from the other team? 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 5, 2016 Nyquist sucks with Z now. I prefer Larkin with Z. Dats and Tats are gold together Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeytownRules19 902 Report post Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Bill Roose Reporting: Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Abdelkader Helm - Richards - Larkin Tatar - Athanasiou - Nyquist Glendening - Sheahan - Jurco Edited February 5, 2016 by HockeytownRules19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted February 5, 2016 I like the inclusion of Athanasiou but that lineup still isn't good. Like kip said, we have too many guys who can't actually play strong hockey. It doesn't matter how much they try or how close they are to tearing it up if they never do. What exactly do they expect that fourth line to do? Bigger bodies I guess but none of those guys are energy guys. I've never seen the team take things up a notch because of them. The third line has potential as an energy line and a scoring threat. Maybe. The second line isn't going to work and we've seen that Datsyuk and Z aren't guaranteed magic together anymore. We've got to cut a lot of guys who can look good but at the end of the day always *just* miss, screw up passes, and try but never actually do anything possession related. 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted February 5, 2016 not to get too much into trades here, but of the guys practicing together you have to trade Helm, Nyquist and possibly Pulkkinen or Jurco. Get this shakeup moving! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
