kipwinger 8,496 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) I'm not sweating any of these picks. Over the last couple of years I've found myself saying "Who's Tyler Bertuzzi", "Who's Axel Holmstrom", "Who's Ville Saarijarvi"? Fast forward one year. They're all studs in their respective leagues. If nothing else, we draft really well. Edited June 25, 2016 by kipwinger 3 DatsyukianDekes, krsmith17 and kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 Can't wait Mick to say Alfons & Gasteon now! I got it you take it....oh wait another wasted pick that won't make the NHL....come on July 1! Do you have a list of people from the 4th round that are going to make the NHL? If so please divulge the information to us. 1 Ekmanc reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 This is a bad draft for the RW's. True none of us know how any player is going to turn out, neither do the RW's. Every draft in every sport is nothing more than an educated guess. When a team passes over guys ranked in the top 20 for a guy ranked in the mid 30's those are not educated guesses. It isn't about player A or player B or player C. it is about being smart and getting player A AND player B AND player C. 5-6 years from now Cholowski could become a good player. While we are waiting for that how many 20 goal seasons will Gauthier have? How about Jones? Rustabov? Some of the others available when we picked will have 200+ NHL games played before Cholowski ever plays a pro game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 Nathan Noel was another player I wanted in the later rounds. Chicago just took him with their 4th rounder... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,936 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 Problem is, the last 3 picks are all picks that could've been taken in the 5th-7th. Should've pick three kids with more certain futures. Not 150lb. defensemen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 Problem is, the last 3 picks are all picks that could've been taken in the 5th-7th. Should've pick three kids with more certain futures. Not 150lb. defensemen. 163 lbs, but who's counting anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 I get that but when I start reading "why draft a tiny defensemen" "what a waste of the pick we got from Arizona" "all 3 draft picks suck" Meanwhile I'm pretty sure Holland has a clue, more than any of us. Scouts is also not a guessing game, they actually watch the players play, do you watch these kids play and know how to evaluate talent ? Don't think so. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It is a guessing game for the most part , not every player they draft becomes an NHL player just because they watched them play hockey games Some players develop at a later rate and turn out to be steal picks and some great junior players become busts Luck plays a big part in drafting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 Givani Smith certainly would not have been available in the 5th-7th rounds... I really like that pick a lot. 2 nyqvististhefuture and sputman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) The swede dman we picked just turned 18 at least so he's got time to develop , the pick right after from the preds is an 18 yr old in July with better offensive numbers , let's just hope he's not the one we should of picked since we all know how great Nashville are at getting d's Great Otto koivula just went to the islanders ... Oh well Edited June 25, 2016 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,936 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) Ok, it was still an obscure pick.... the last two though...SHEESH! Cannot wait to see 5th-7th! Detroit Red Wings select Hok Ptew! 163 lbs, but who's counting anyway. Just going by what it says when I google his name, it says 150. Edited June 25, 2016 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,496 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 Givani Smith certainly would not have been available in the 5th-7th rounds... I really like that pick a lot. I know right. People around here ***** and moan for YEARS about how we never draft any tough, gritty, abrasive forwards. So we draft an 18 year old who's 6'2, 200+ lbs., leads his league in penalty minutes, and is big and tough. What do people do? ***** and moan. 5 Detroit \# 1 Fan, amato, krsmith17 and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,936 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 I know right. People around here ***** and moan for YEARS about how we never draft any tough, gritty, abrasive forwards. So we draft an 18 year old who's 6'2, 200+ lbs., leads his league in penalty minutes, and is big and tough. What do people do? ***** and moan. Mike McKee....nuff said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 It is a guessing game for the most part , not every player they draft becomes an NHL player just because they watched them play hockey games Some players develop at a later rate and turn out to be steal picks and some great junior players become busts Luck plays a big part in drafting Your not understanding my initial point. Who knows more about these players? Holland and co or you and I. We all know the answer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 Ok, it was still an obscure pick.... the last two though...SHEESH! Cannot wait to see 5th-7th! Detroit Red Wings select Hok Ptew! 2015-16 Örebro HK J18 J18 Allsvenskan 6 3 1410 2 | Playoffs 2 1 012 -2 Örebro HK J20 SuperElit 41 2 6836 -14 - See more at: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=212632#sthash.jyayh5G2.dpuf 2015-16 Örebro HK J18 J18 Allsvenskan 6 3 1410 2 | Playoffs 2 1 012 -2 Örebro HK J20 SuperElit 41 2 6836 -14 - See more at: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=212632#sthash.jyayh5G2.dpuf Just going by eliteprospects.com, it says 150. No. Giovani Smith (6'2 205 lbs) would have been gone by round 3 at the latest. Filip Hronek (6 foot 163 lbs) was ranked 49 TSN and we picked him up at 53. He also would have been gone. 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 C'mon Kenny Johnson... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 Malmstrom wasn't ranked by any scouting services and there's little info on him , hakan Anderson found him in junior leagues so let's be hopeful it's another hakan home run Your not understanding my initial point. Who knows more about these players? Holland and co or you and I. We all know the answer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Fair enough ... Doesn't mean though every pick is right (I wish they were) and just because I'm some loser at home who happens to like someone and hope we draft that player , means that that said player will be a bust But I get what your saying C'mon Kenny Johnson... Forward or dman? I know there's a Finnish forward makinen I had my eye on that wasn't drafted yet either 1 DatsyukianDekes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 Sambrook. Really happy with that pick. He was another guy I liked. Johnson is a defenseman from Michigan. Will play at UofM next season. 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 Really happy that were adressing our biggest concern and drafting dmen , maybe in the 7th we can go for a homerun type pick and try hopefully land a future zetterberg/datsyuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 This is a bad draft for the RW's. True none of us know how any player is going to turn out, neither do the RW's. Every draft in every sport is nothing more than an educated guess. When a team passes over guys ranked in the top 20 for a guy ranked in the mid 30's those are not educated guesses. It isn't about player A or player B or player C. it is about being smart and getting player A AND player B AND player C. 5-6 years from now Cholowski could become a good player. While we are waiting for that how many 20 goal seasons will Gauthier have? How about Jones? Rustabov? Some of the others available when we picked will have 200+ NHL games played before Cholowski ever plays a pro game. And where are you pulling 5-6 years from? You have no clue. 4 years is probably the max, and possibly as few as 2 years depending on his development. Kids are coming straight from college more and more often. Larkin, Dekeyser came straight from college. Cholowski was the fastest rising prospect in this year's draft. He already has good size for an 18-year-old, and will add on within a year or two. You're off your rocker if you think Gauthier, Jones, or Rubtsov will jump right into the NHL. They'll more than likely need at least a season or two of development, maybe even 3. They're not locks to be anything above top 6 players. "Kieffer Bellows is a pure shooter with question marks about the rest of his game. Max Jones is a nasty left winger with a size/speed combination and perhaps a 50-50 shot at either becoming a top-six power forward -- a better-skating version of the Scott Hartnell mold -- or else having a career as a role player somewhere in the range of the careers of former first-round picks Raffi Torres, Ben Eager or current Washington Capitals winger Tom Wilson. A lot of NHL scouts soured on Julien Gauthier's game as the 2015-16 season progressed. Questions started to fly about his adaptability to the NHL despite being a good finisher with a huge frame and excellent strength (although not very consistent in applying it)." A little intel on Jordan Sambrook: Smooth-skating two-way defenceman who displays solid creativity and offensive instincts, as well as a strong defensive game. Can play lengthy shifts due to his conservative style without the puck, and can be relied upon in all situations. Mobile with and without the puck, and could even become a bit quicker. His size allows him to be physically assertive and protect the puck well. All-in-all, a defenceman who has the potential to become a well-rounded all-around player that can log a lot of ice-time. (Curtis Joe, EP 2016) - See more at: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=268675#sthash.SmsD9WRx.dpuf 1 kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) Damn another guy i liked Mathias from is going to the blackhawks yet again God I hope Chicago aren't finding other gems f*** Edited June 25, 2016 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 Larsson... Another goalie?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) Larsson... Another goalie?...WAs thinking the same thing , why with Mrazek being so young , coreau and the swiss goalie would we need one ... Anyways let's hope he's good Had my eye on Otto makinen http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/139239/2016-nhl-draft-preview-puljujarvi-laine-cream-solid-finland-crop/ Still available and says he was ranked 13? Worth a gamble in the 6th .. anyways can't go wrong with a swede Edited June 25, 2016 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NerveDamage 4,176 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 #BuildtheHype 1 amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 Final pick is Elfstrom... So much for Kenny Johnson... Oh well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeytownRules19 902 Report post Posted June 25, 2016 Very solid draft by Kenny and organization... onto Free Agency! 1 sputman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
