joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 Not being able to get shots through from the point is huge Terrible powerplay is huge Abby being the only one willing to take a beating in front of the net is huge Otherwise our game has structure but they look like their playing to not lose Getting shots through from the point is not a personnel issue, any half ass team can score this way. It's a huge percentage of goals scored in this league are from the point and we get nothing from it 1 UpstateNYRedWingsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 Am I the only one that's been way disappointed in Green's play? Like, I could kinda maybe stomach all the defensive lapses and him regularly getting walked like a dog if he was scoring goals or breathing some life into the powerplay. And I could kinda maybe stomach the ack of goals and powerplay points from the guy that was supposed to be our go-to offensive defensman if he was at least solid defensively. But he's really struggling on both sides of the puck lately. 3 DRW Dominance, GMRwings1983 and MabusIncarnate reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingnut1989 165 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 St louis real good at blocking shots or we got guys that cant shoot hard enough...bring in the byfuglien Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ami 273 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 what a waste of a good effort. one of better game for Wings, but result's ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 Every press conference, Petr game us a chance to win just need to score more. And in other news the sky is blue. 1 amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) This game was so frustrating. I think if we weren't so starving for goals the last few weeks this one would have been easier to stomach. Wings played alright, they never got manhandled by a streaking team or anything but my frustration is more in our players. You'd think they would be trying some new things. Our forwards and defensemen. We won't be making the playoffs unless they find a way to score some goals consistently. We're very lucky for picking up points in games we score 2 or less Edited January 21, 2016 by joesuffP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 The view - 1 puckloo39 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,788 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 Am I the only one that's been way disappointed in Green's play? Like, I could kinda maybe stomach all the defensive lapses and him regularly getting walked like a dog if he was scoring goals or breathing some life into the powerplay. And I could kinda maybe stomach the ack of goals and powerplay points from the guy that was supposed to be our go-to offensive defensman if he was at least solid defensively. But he's really struggling on both sides of the puck lately. He's always been bad defensively, but now he's not producing offensively either. Washington knew what they were doing when they let him walk. 1 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 947 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) He's always been bad defensively, but now he's not producing offensively either. Washington knew what they were doing when they let him walk. I think we were hoping that the old change of scenery would do the trick to get his offence clicking again. I even thought Green may be the answer to quarterback our powerplay too, so far no. Edit: Also Datsyuk is getting the chances he just needs to get his finish back. Nyquist needs to f$#@ing score, hes gone from snipe to wipe Richards chances are going up and I think he'll start to bury more soon. Maybe they are all waiting for the playoffs to click for once Edited January 21, 2016 by 13dangledangle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,788 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 If you look at the way this team has been eliminated from the playoffs the last few years, it's always been due to lack of scoring. In 2013, we scored 5 goals in the last three games of the series. All losses to Chicago. The goal scoring was better earlier in the series, but not when it counted the most. In 2014, we scored 6 goals in a five game series against Boston. Ironically, the only game we won was a 1-0 score. No offense the entire series. In 2015, we scored 2 goals in the final two games of the series. We had nothing to show offensively in game 7. Once again, the goal scoring let us down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) If you look at the way this team has been eliminated from the playoffs the last few years, it's always been due to lack of scoring. In 2013, we scored 5 goals in the last three games of the series. All losses to Chicago. The goal scoring was better earlier in the series, but not when it counted the most. In 2014, we scored 6 goals in a five game series against Boston. Ironically, the only game we won was a 1-0 score. No offense the entire series. In 2015, we scored 2 goals in the final two games of the series. We had nothing to show offensively in game 7. Once again, the goal scoring let us down. Well that's the thing. It's widely known we have zero snipers on this team. It's a bit embarassing to say that our best sniper in the last entire DECADE was Hossa for the 1 year he played, Franzen who never even hit 40 goals in his life (is that even a true sniper?) and Zetterberg who can barely break 10 goals now and was a former 30/40 goal scorer. We went from having Shanahan, Yzerman, Fedorov to .... Franzen? (Zetterberg?) (1 year of Hossa?) and now no one. I don't consider Tatar and Nyquist snipers. Maybe mid tier snipers who do well in the season. But they need to be better in the playoffs, especially Nyquist. We need a pure goal scorer. Mantha is supposed to be that guy and so is Pulkinnen but obvious they aren't even close to being there yet. With that said, Tats and Nyquist have enough experience under their belt where they should theoretically be our go to guys in the playoffs. I understand the first few years for players is tough to adjust. But this is the year they have to be our scorers. Edited January 21, 2016 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 Well that's the thing. It's widely known we have zero snipers on this team. It's a bit embarassing to say that our best sniper in the last entire DECADE was Hossa for the 1 year he played, Franzen who never even hit 40 goals in his life (is that even a true sniper?) and Zetterberg who can barely break 10 goals now and was a former 30/40 goal scorer. We went from having Shanahan, Yzerman, Fedorov to .... Franzen? (Zetterberg?) (1 year of Hossa?) and now no one. I don't consider Tatar and Nyquist snipers. Maybe mid tier snipers who do well in the season. But they need to be better in the playoffs, especially Nyquist. We need a pure goal scorer. Mantha is supposed to be that guy and so is Pulkinnen but obvious they aren't even close to being there yet. What I don't get is why Sheahan isn't taking more shots at the net. His shot is crazy good when he's had a chance to use it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vinny 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 Next time I turn the Wings on to see Helm playing on the same line as Datsyuk I will switch the channel lol. He belongs on an energy line and I think hes even lost his purpose on the team. What ever happened to him finishing every check? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 Sheahan has only played good hockey when he was with Larkin. He was terrible last night again. Idk what is with everyone this year where they need a 19 year old to get them going. Seems the only line that can score is whichever Larkin is on. I don't think it's because he's amazing he just plays with a lot of energy and nobody else is doing that. I think Blash's message doesn't strike fear into players like they did with Babcock. They know how to play aggressive and physical, they just don't because they don't have to until their down by a goal with 10 minutes in the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 Sheahan pulled that Yzerman move last year. That's a hard goal to score in today's hockey and that fact that he could do it shows his potential. The only other guy on our team that did that a ton was Z when he was younger. Here it is- He should definitely shoot more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 Next time I turn the Wings on to see Helm playing on the same line as Datsyuk I will switch the channel lol. He belongs on an energy line and I think hes even lost his purpose on the team. What ever happened to him finishing every check? Hardly anyone on this team finishes their checks. They'd rather try and poke the puck away rather than lay the body on a guy... 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UpstateNYRedWingsFan 42 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) Abby and Smith, that's it. Edit: I meant to quote that post by HockeyMom. Edited January 21, 2016 by UpstateNYRedWingsFan 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canadian wings fan 305 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 Funny that St.Louis game winning goal seemed like almost a carbon copy of that goal McDavid pulled on Mrazek earlier in the season. I wonder if it's just coincidence or if they finally figured out Mrazek's one on one weakness. For the record I don't blame Mrazek at all for those goals lol. Just thought it was interesting both guys pulled nearly identical moves Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted January 21, 2016 Funny that St.Louis game winning goal seemed like almost a carbon copy of that goal McDavid pulled on Mrazek earlier in the season. I wonder if it's just coincidence or if they finally figured out Mrazek's one on one weakness. For the record I don't blame Mrazek at all for those goals lol. Just thought it was interesting both guys pulled nearly identical moves That's not a weakness. 90% of the time, goalies won't save a backhand forehand shot like that. The deke is that powerful. Not many players can even make a move like that to begin with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted January 22, 2016 Funny that St.Louis game winning goal seemed like almost a carbon copy of that goal McDavid pulled on Mrazek earlier in the season. I wonder if it's just coincidence or if they finally figured out Mrazek's one on one weakness. For the record I don't blame Mrazek at all for those goals lol. Just thought it was interesting both guys pulled nearly identical moves Most goalies get beat on that so I'm not sure it's a weakness. He was coming with a lot of speed and made a great move at the last second. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites