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Dennis Wideman Suspended 20 Games

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It looks like he he got hit pretty hard...nobody disputes that. I think he was pissed because he thought it was a bad hit and should have been called. It seems to me that he skated right towards the linesman and hit him intentionally. He then, easily, avoids the player with the puck. Screw Wideman...that linesman doesn't expect to be hit from behind, or to be even bumped that far away from the play. It wouldn't upset me in the least bit if they called it assault and kicked him out of the league. I'm sure that won't happen, but I'd be okay if it did. He could have seriously injured an on ice official.

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I have to say the extension of his arms after the hit, coupled by his avoiding of the player, and there being no following of the concussion protocol are definitely factors that make me think it was intentional. If he was "woozy" then the lack of following the concussion protocol is another big, but separate, issue.

That linesman had no idea he was going to be hit, and no expectation of being hit. While I may have a less than favorable opinion of certain officials, I would hate to see anyone, even Halloran, blindsided like that. Yes, I know I have spewed venom at Halloran in some GDT's (blown calls of a chronic nature will get me going since I loathe incompetence or bias). The league has to suspend Wideman otherwise it could become open season on officials. The suspension rule is there for a reason. They need to protect their officials. There are other ways to handle anger with the officials. I remember Chelios towards the end of his career sending a slapshot towards a ref... Nowhere near actually hitting him, but enough to get his point across. I thought that was about as far as it should ever go.

When the Wideman hit was on THN at first, there was also a vid of Lucic punching at a player and catching the linesman in the face. I would not be surprised if that was "accidentally on purpose" by Lucic based on his dirty play in the past. I think the optics of the Wideman hit overshadowed this incident in a big way.

Does anyone know how the linesman who was hit is doing? I thought I had read somewhere he was having post concussion symptoms.

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I have to say the extension of his arms after the hit, coupled by his avoiding of the player, and there being no following of the concussion protocol are definitely factors that make me think it was intentional. If he was "woozy" then the lack of following the concussion protocol is another big, but separate, issue.

That linesman had no idea he was going to be hit, and no expectation of being hit. While I may have a less than favorable opinion of certain officials, I would hate to see anyone, even Halloran, blindsided like that. Yes, I know I have spewed venom at Halloran in some GDT's (blown calls of a chronic nature will get me going since I loathe incompetence or bias). The league has to suspend Wideman otherwise it could become open season on officials. The suspension rule is there for a reason. They need to protect their officials. There are other ways to handle anger with the officials. I remember Chelios towards the end of his career sending a slapshot towards a ref... Nowhere near actually hitting him, but enough to get his point across. I thought that was about as far as it should ever go.

When the Wideman hit was on THN at first, there was also a vid of Lucic punching at a player and catching the linesman in the face. I would not be surprised if that was "accidentally on purpose" by Lucic based on his dirty play in the past. I think the optics of the Wideman hit overshadowed this incident in a big way.

Does anyone know how the linesman who was hit is doing? I thought I had read somewhere he was having post concussion symptoms.

Really good point, the Lucic punch got completely overlooked.

Edited by NerveDamage

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I guess I'm just confused as to what makes those thinking he should be suspended a lynch mob?

Because if we want him suspended, we're lumped in the anti-violence/anti-fighting in hockey crue... Not that fighting between players on the ice and crosschecking a linesman have any correlation what-so-ever. ...but even more to the point, isn't that counter-intuitive? If we're all pacifists and we want him justice through suspension... why would we form a inherently violent, vigilante type of operation with torches, pitchforks, etc (aka a lynch mob) to go after Wideman?

#justsayin'

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I don't think the question should be whether he tried to do it or not. It's obvious he did. The question is whether or not he realized it was an official, which I highly doubt he did.

Seems like an honest mistake on his part that could have happened to any. But he is still responsible for his actions and will have to deal with whatever consequences come from this.

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I don't think the question should be whether he tried to do it or not. It's obvious he did. The question is whether or not he realized it was an official, which I highly doubt he did.

Seems like an honest mistake on his part that could have happened to any. But he is still responsible for his actions and will have to deal with whatever consequences come from this.

Hitting another player like that wouldn't have been any better.

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Hitting another player like that wouldn't have been any better.

It kind of would be though.

Refs are completely untouchable, as they should be, the standard suspension for hitting a ref is higher than hitting a player on the other team. Which is why this hit is as big of a deal as it is.

Had he hit a player like that, he may get a 2 minute penalty for cross checking, but it's not something you look at as a suspendable hit. Since it was a ref, it is something you look at, because completely intentional or not, the refs have to be protected from getting hurt.

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So the NHL is going to have a hearing on Tuesday to review the case of Dennis Wideman cross-checking linesman Don Henderson.

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My first reaction: it should've been Dan O'Halloran instead.

My second reaction: damn!

Refs are completely untouchable, as they should be, the standard suspension for hitting a ref is higher than hitting a player on the other team. Which is why this hit is as big of a deal as it is.

...

In NHL it very much depends. I remember an accident when a certain Penguin cross-checked referee and got away with it just fine.

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As trhey should, if he was really concussed this needs to be lowered 20 games is just insane.

If he was conussed at the time he should have left the game. The trainers told him to go to dressing room and he refused. He didnt play his cards right Imo. Thats probably the biggest argument against his case. Edited by kickazz

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If he was conussed at the time he should have left the game. The trainers told him to go to dressing room and he refused. He didnt play his cards right Imo. Thats probably the biggest argument against his case.

according to the concussion protocol this should not have been his decision because the team doctors are deciding over concussions and the quiet rooms.

So if that all is true Calgary hasn't followed the protocol and Wiseman was likely mentally out of it, So this could end in different ways. But yeah the story is weird but my point stands 20 games is a lot of time and money

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As trhey should, if he was really concussed this needs to be lowered 20 games is just insane.

If he was really concussed, he should have gone through the concussion protocol. Either he is liable for assault on an on ice official, or his organization is liable for endangering his health and well being. The league being what it is today, I don't think there was any indication of concussion symptoms or even the need to follow through with the protocol. That leaves Wideman blowing in the wind. I think you can get 20 games for spitting on a ref (I could be wrong), so I was hoping for 40.

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If he was really concussed, he should have gone through the concussion protocol. Either he is liable for assault on an on ice official, or his organization is liable for endangering his health and well being. The league being what it is today, I don't think there was any indication of concussion symptoms or even the need to follow through with the protocol. That leaves Wideman blowing in the wind. I think you can get 20 games for spitting on a ref (I could be wrong), so I was hoping for 40.

Really? I think that's a bit much

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Appealing will either not work or probably screw Calgary over. Someone's taking responsibility for that ref taking the hit + Wideman finishing the game without health protocol. It's either Wideman or the team. Or both.

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Really? I think that's a bit much

Really. I was hoping for 40. I think the fact that the linesman wasn't injures is a miracle of so sort. Players get get from less than that hit. That red had no expectation of being hit like that. I was hoping for 40 but would not have complained had he been kicked out of the league.

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Wideman better not win an appeal, or else it'll be open season on the officials. Other players will take out their frustrations on them and say, "Oh, I was concussed". Expect the Union that represents the officials backlash if Wideman wins an appeal. I thought he should have miss the rest of the season.


Really. I was hoping for 40. I think the fact that the linesman wasn't injures is a miracle of so sort. Players get get from less than that hit. That red had no expectation of being hit like that. I was hoping for 40 but would not have complained had he been kicked out of the league.

I agree, I don't care if Wideman was concussed or not, there's no excuse to hit an official.

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If he didn't extend his arms in a cross check manner, or avoid an opposing player right after hitting the ref, I can see the "He was concussed" debate.

But his actions tell me he was pissed there was no call on the play and took it out on the first Zebra he saw.

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Guy got what he deserved. It wasn't a "mistake"..he goes right after the ref, whacks him good, then turns right after that to avoid the oncoming player. Not that it really matters to him i'm sure, but hope he enjoys his unpaid vacation and losing almost $600,000.

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