Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted February 18, 2016 wait what? Where did you guys hear this? Link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted February 18, 2016 So you essentially sacrifice your privacy if you want to appeal a league decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NerveDamage 4,176 Report post Posted February 18, 2016 So you essentially sacrifice your privacy if you want to appeal a league decision. though I do see a problem with that, I don't know how the legal system would take it if it's an aggression, supposed something like Bertuzzi-Moore happened again. If it's that deliberate and there's harsher consecuences (i.e. physical) they'd have to go to all out and find as much as they can to resolve it. And if through that they could find that there was intention wouldn't it aggravate the case? Where does the NHL's jurisdiction ends? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted February 19, 2016 If the "teammate" indeed turn over the text message, what a dick. I don't care if it was the wrong thing to text, or even if he hit the linesman on purpose, you don't dick over your friend that way. Of course they most likely aren't friends anymore and I don't doubt there is some retribution coming...and I don't blame Wideman if he does. It doesn't matter if what Wideman did was wrong or right, you don't rat out your fellow player unless you had an agenda. In the working world that is called being a company man. This "teammate" had no reason to rat him out on the text. He had no interest in the case, but now he is balls deep in it. Revenge will be sweet. Again, I am not condoning the hit, nor even the stupid text, but man, what a dick move by the teammate. That is worse than the incident itself and I hope the rest of the team takes care of it. Unless Wideman sent out a multiple text to many teammates, then he knows exactly who it was and s***s gonna get real, really soon... Some people deserve to get "ratted out." Wideman could be a world class douchenozzle who deserves whatever he gets. 1 NerveDamage reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted February 19, 2016 Wideman isn't dumb he should have just accidentally smashed his phone and back up all the important data to an offline PC. The whole notion of needing to give up your privacy if a player appeals is wrong and scary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 19, 2016 Wideman isn't dumb he should have just accidentally smashed his phone and back up all the important data to an offline PC. The whole notion of needing to give up your privacy if a player appeals is wrong and scary. I'm pretty sure if he had to give up his phone legally, and then "accidentally" broke it, he would either lose his chance to appear or he would have to still show the content as I am pretty sure all text messages are saved on a server somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted February 19, 2016 I'm pretty sure if he had to give up his phone legally, and then "accidentally" broke it, he would either lose his chance to appear or he would have to still show the content as I am pretty sure all text messages are saved on a server somewhere. There are ways to do that without looking intentional and if the NHL thinks this will be scare other players from appealing they better think again. Macramella just said that the information is irrevelevant and I fully agree http://www.tsn.ca/radio/toronto-1050/macramalla-wideman-s-text-message-is-irrelevant-1.439644 It's exactly situations like this why I would never ever use a cloud service. I'm still sure the suspension will be reduced by the neutral arbitrator but by that time he will have lost more than 10 games already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) There are ways to do that without looking intentional and if the NHL thinks this will be scare other players from appealing they better think again. Macramella just said that the information is irrevelevant and I fully agree http://www.tsn.ca/radio/toronto-1050/macramalla-wideman-s-text-message-is-irrelevant-1.439644 It's exactly situations like this why I would never ever use a cloud service. I'm still sure the suspension will be reduced by the neutral arbitrator but by that time he will have lost more than 10 games already. Ethics and relevancy aside, "the cloud" backs up everything. My point is that even if you don't use the cloud, I believe your text messages are saved on a server as well. This comes up in criminal cases all the time. Edited February 19, 2016 by kliq Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 19, 2016 Report came out today saying that Henderson is still suffering from a concussion from the hit Wideman gave him. http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/14805442/nhl-referee-don-henderson-indefinitely-concussion-symptoms Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NerveDamage 4,176 Report post Posted February 19, 2016 Report came out today saying that Henderson is still suffering from a concussion from the hit Wideman gave him. http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/14805442/nhl-referee-don-henderson-indefinitely-concussion-symptoms Did they follow up the concussion protocol with the ref in the game, or did he stayed on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) Report came out today saying that Henderson is still suffering from a concussion from the hit Wideman gave him. http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/14805442/nhl-referee-don-henderson-indefinitely-concussion-symptoms Yeah. Honestly I think Wideman should just serve the suspension and move on. He's looking more and more like a diva. The text messages didn't help his case either. His rep is probably going to only get worse the more he and the NHLPA push this. The press will only feed off the drama and exploit the situation even more. Edited February 19, 2016 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,788 Report post Posted February 19, 2016 I wouldn't be surprised if Wideman used the Todd Bertuzzi excuse. "I was only following orders" (in this case, Bob Hartley's). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NerveDamage 4,176 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 Arbitrator’s ruling on Wideman suspension not expected until next week NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly said it’s not anticipated that arbitrator James Oldham will have made his decision until the week of March 7 <Full Article> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 By the time they decide, it'll have been 20 games ha 1 NerveDamage reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NerveDamage 4,176 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 By the time they decide, it'll have been 20 games ha I bet that's exactly what they're trying to do, and not dig up more trash and make both Wideman and the Flames staff look worse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 By the time they decide, it'll have been 20 games ha I doubt Wideman cares about the games nearly as much as the money he's losing. He could get some of that back if the arbitrator rules in his favor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 I doubt Wideman cares about the games nearly as much as the money he's losing. He could get some of that back if the arbitrator rules in his favor. Ah yeah. Fair point.. I didn't think about that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NerveDamage 4,176 Report post Posted July 30, 2016 Don Henderson, the NHL linesman knocked to the ice by Calgary Flames defensemanDennis Wideman, has undergone neck surgery to repair damage from the hit and there are fears his career may now be over, according to a report in the Boston Globe. http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2016/07/30/report-nhl-linesman-henderson-required-neck-surgery-friends-fear-his-career-may-be-over/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) That's terrible. Hopefully he has a healthy recovery and continues his career for years to come. Wideman is probably s***ting his pants over a potential lawsuit if the ref doesn't recover. What an unfortunate series of events. Edited July 30, 2016 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NerveDamage 4,176 Report post Posted July 30, 2016 was Calgary penalized over keeping Wideman in while concussed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted July 31, 2016 This article, from the New York Times, might fit in quite nicely right about here (especially since Uncle Gary hates having to answer to a higher being than himself): N.H.L. Commissioner Gary Bettman Continues to Deny C.T.E. Link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NerveDamage 4,176 Report post Posted April 20, 2017 latest update on the case http://www.sportsnet.ca/shows/tim-and-sid-show/friedman-henderson-wideman-lawsuite-will-get-really-ugly/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted April 20, 2017 10+ million dollar case against Wideman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted April 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: 10+ million dollar case against Wideman I guess my question is would he have made $10 plus if he is able to continue officiating? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NerveDamage 4,176 Report post Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Hockeymom1960 said: I guess my question is would he have made $10 plus if he is able to continue officiating? Linesman make about $80,000 to $120,000 per season, and again, this highly depends on the seniority of the linesman and how skillful they are. Now, if a ref or linesman are picked to work during the playoffs, that will also lead to them earning that much more money. Typically, a referee will make $18,000 per round of the playoffs that they ref. One round will usually be about 2-3 games for that ref, depending upon which region they referee in. Dan Henderson has been in the NHL since 94/95 here's a good read about NHL refs' salaries http://gazettereview.com/2016/10/highest-paid-nhl-referees/ Edited April 21, 2017 by NerveDamage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites