kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 I was watching the game yesterday, and I couldnt help but think about what to do with Quincey. The easy answer is let him walk, but I dont think its that simple. Qunicey has a very interesting story, two years ago he was probably the second most hated player on the Wings by the internet fans (Second to Cleary), but since the arrival of DD, he and DD have formed the best pairing we have had since Lidstrom retired. Right now we are playing pretty good hockey, and the guy is on the top pairing, that does say something. With that being said, I'm sure his strong play is also going to up his value. Does some team come around and pay him like a top 4 d-man to a long term deal? Or does he garner little interest on the open market. IMO we have 3 options: 1. Let Him Walk 2. Sign Him and deal with the consequences later 3. Get Rid of a player currently on our roster with a similar cap hit, and get rid of that player to offset the signing of KFQ. Which means get rid of Kronwall or E, and we aren't getting rid of Kronwall. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 I was watching the game yesterday, and I couldnt help but think about what to do with Quincey. The easy answer is let him walk, but I dont think its that simple. Qunicey has a very interesting story, two years ago he was probably the second most hated player on the Wings by the internet fans (Second to Cleary), but since the arrival of DD, he and DD have formed the best pairing we have had since Lidstrom retired. Right now we are playing pretty good hockey, and the guy is on the top pairing, that does say something. With that being said, I'm sure his strong play is also going to up his value. Does some team come around and pay him like a top 4 d-man to a long term deal? Or does he garner little interest on the open market. IMO we have 3 options: 1. Let Him Walk 2. Sign Him and deal with the consequences later 3. Get Rid of a player currently on our roster with a similar cap hit, and get rid of that player to offset the signing of KFQ. Which means get rid of Kronwall or E, and we aren't getting rid of Kronwall. Thoughts? I think we should try to re-sign him, but don't throw the bank at him. He is a solid top four guy who will be somewhat in demand. But we can't just make no effort to bring him back when we need a stronger defense core. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StayClassy 38 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Yes please sign him. It sucks we could lose him over E just because of that contract. 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheXym 2,606 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 I wouldn't mind a resign at the right price depending on what happens with the kids. 2 chaps80 and NerveDamage reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 My first choice is to let him walk. But, if the "kids" aren't in the plans and we stike out on upgrading, go ahead a re-sign him at a lessor contract for a year. 1 Dominator2005 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) 1-2 year extension if possible. Otherwise walk. Quincey is way too important to this team now. So if we're letting him walk - there better be someone who can fill his role well with DK. They have been our best pair in terms of chemistry for almost 2 years now.. And they're playing top line... That's kind of a big deal.. Edited February 15, 2016 by kickazz 2 NerveDamage and kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Unless others are moved they need to let him walk. 2 Dominator2005 and nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Is XO ready to step up? Is Marchenko good enough to stay? Smith has been top 2nd-3rd Def. What this team needs: Top 2/4 RHD. So for the next season we have already: Kronwall - Deke Smith - Green Errorson - Marchenko XO How we keep Q. For me, thanks but no thanks to Q. 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 I've never really hated Quincey or even the trade made to get him back here the way some people have, but I'm kind of impartial when it comes to re-signing him. He's a very solid shutdown defenseman that can eat a lot of minutes and is a very good penalty killer. I know it's highly unlikely that he gets traded before the deadline but I would definitely be open to the idea. I think he could garner a pretty decent return to a contending team at the deadline, and I don't see him as making or breaking our Cup run. If we're planning on re-signing him to another couple year contract at a similar cap hit, that would be fine with me, but if we're planning on letting him walk in the off-season anyway, I think we should try to get a return while we can... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 I wouldn't mind a resign at the right price depending on what happens with the kids. This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 You don't think that this have enough of 5th/6th Defensemen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 You think Quincey is a 5th/6th defenseman?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 (edited) You think Quincey is a 5th/6th defenseman?... To some our whole team minus the euro twins and Larkin are 5th and 6th d-men, or 3rd/4th line forwards. I can remember as recently as June, some were saying Zetterberg was washed up. Edited February 16, 2016 by kliq 3 e_prime, kickazz and NerveDamage reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 (edited) I would like to resign Quincey to a short term deal if we are able to get rid of E. I'm not one who hates E, or feels we NEED to get rid of him, but I don't see a place on this team next year for both. I like the kids, but I cannot see a world where 3 or 4 of Ouelette/Marchenko/Sproul/Jensen are in our top 6. Having that many kids playing every night is a huge risk, and is very unlikely to happen given our current roster. I think Kronwall, Green, and DD are coming back without a doubt, so that leaves 3 spots in our top 6. I would like to see this: Kronwall - Player to be Acquired (think OEL, Weber, Suter etc. which I realize will never happen lol) DD - Quincey Marchenko - Green Ouellete/Smith - One traded, the other 7th D-man fighting for a spot E - Traded if we re-sign Q Kindl - Traded (I think with next year being his final year it will be easier to move him) Sproul - Healthy Scratch Jensen - Traded or Sent to Minors as we cant have 3 D-men as healthy scratches Edited February 16, 2016 by kliq Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 You think Quincey is a 5th/6th defenseman?... Our three best defensemen are Green, Kronwall, DeKeyser. So, Quincey is, at best, our #4 defenseman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 I guess ideally Quincey would be a really good number 5 on a deep team, and he would definitely play as such if he were to be traded to a contender. Although I do think he is a very capable top 4 on most teams. I'm not one that thinks we HAVE to get rid of Ericsson or Quincey either, but I wouldn't hate moving on from both if we could somehow land a top pairing defenseman. My ideal defense pairings for next season would be something like this... DeKeyser - Player Acquired in Trade (Trouba...) Kronwall - Marchenko Smith - Green Jensen / Sproul Quincey - traded before the deadline for a 2nd round pick... Ericsson - traded for a similar type forward contract... Kindl - traded for a mid round pick, retaining half the cap hit on the remaining year of his contract... Ouellet - traded in part of the package to land that top pair defenseman... Jensen / Sproul - waive whichever one doesn't fill the #7 slot and hope he clears... I know that would be a pretty significant turnover and has no chance of actually happening, but that is what I'd like to see... 2 NerveDamage and kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barabbas16 499 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 I'd rather keep Quincey than any of Ericsson, Smith, or Kindl. If they don't bring in another clear top 4 guy via trade or free agency, Quincey probably gets resigned... and replacing Kindl with XO is the only change on the back end for next season. If they get Trouba or someone like that, Quincey is (unfortunately) much easier to get rid of than Ericsson and more expensive than Smith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 (edited) Our three best defensemen are Green, Kronwall, DeKeyser. So, Quincey is, at best, our #4 defenseman.Kronwall really hasn't played like our best defesneman this year. Edited February 16, 2016 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 Our three best defensemen are Green, Kronwall, DeKeyser. So, Quincey is, at best, our #4 defenseman. If we're going by points and points alone, but frankly I think Green has been horrendous in our own zone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 If I'm holland, I try to talk Quincey into taking a discount to stay for another 2-3 years and have a backup plan in place in case he wants to walk in the off season. I don't know what said backup plan could be.... there are rumors or speculation that Calgary could be interested in Howard. Maybe we could snag one of their D men if Quincey leaves or something like that. What do you all think Q could get on the open market if he's going strictly for whoever pays the most? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 I think Quincey could easily get $5M for around 5 years if he tests the open market. I wouldn't want to pay him any more than his current salary of $4.25M for 3 years. Otherwise let him walk... 1 e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 for the right price and length sure being him back but only if the Wings fail to improve the defense come July 1. I don't think any of the kids will amount too more than 3 pairing guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 To some our whole team minus the euro twins and Larkin are 5th and 6th d-men, or 3rd/4th line forwards. I can remember as recently as June, some were saying Zetterberg was washed up. This is the team without a true top 2 def. Kronwall/Green/Deke are all top 4 def. Keep in mind that this is the contrat year for Q and that he has missed nearly quarter of the season so he's motivate and fresh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 To some our whole team minus the euro twins and Larkin are 5th and 6th d-men, or 3rd/4th line forwards. I can remember as recently as June, some were saying Zetterberg was washed up. You are damn right, without Mrazek this team is picking top 10 in next year draft. Are you saying that this is a deep team? If it's the case, what will be value of all other players? Abdelkader: overpaid Errorson: overpaid Kindl: overpaid/cleared waivers Howard: overpaid Pulks: can't stay in lineup Jurco: see Pulks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 16, 2016 (edited) This is the team without a true top 2 def. Kronwall/Green/Deke are all top 4 def. Keep in mind that this is the contrat year for Q and that he has missed nearly quarter of the season so he's motivate and fresh. Quincey has been doing well with DK since last year (2014-2015) not this year. I thought this was common knowledge? http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2015/01/05/quincey-dekeyser-give-red-wings-solid-pairing/21314611/ "The best pair we have on the team right now is (Danny) DeKeyser and (Kyle) Quincey, the steadiest pair," Babcock said. "Each and every day, the two guys playing the best." Edited February 16, 2016 by kickazz 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites