Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted February 27, 2016 It's a good trade for both sides. Florida gets some defensive depth and losing a 6th is nothing because they have never been good at drafting and developing late round players. Kindl was nothing to us and we are known for drafting and developing late round players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted February 27, 2016 I think ericsson is alot better than anyone gives him credit for. He doesn't put up points, but he's our best d man at clearing the crease. He makes mistakes, sure, but all d men do. His are just magnified because he plays alot and he's usually out there against 1st liners who make his small mistakes into legit scoring chances. But he's much less mistake probe than most of our dmen. I can't speak for every one else, but I'd rather have Quincey next season. I don't think Ericsson is worth his 4.25M, and he's got four years left at that hit. It's more about how his contract is handcuffing the team for me. 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted February 27, 2016 I can't speak for every one else, but I'd rather have Quincey next season. I don't think Ericsson is worth his 4.25M, and he's got four years left at that hit. It's more about how his contract is handcuffing the team for me. I'd much rather have quincy too, but I'm just sayin e is nowhere near as bad as everyone says. 1 kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted February 27, 2016 I can't speak for every one else, but I'd rather have Quincey next season. I don't think Ericsson is worth his 4.25M, and he's got four years left at that hit. It's more about how his contract is handcuffing the team for me. What is he worth then? He falls right into the value of what similar players make. Just because you don't like him doesn't make his value less. I hate to tell you but 4 million is a pretty pedestrian cap hit these days. Similar players in his range are Emelin, Larson, Brodin, Tanev, Coburn....Would I prefer some of these guys over E?? sure I would but his cap hit is right where it should be. 1 jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted February 27, 2016 What is he worth then? He falls right into the value of what similar players make. Just because you don't like him doesn't make his value less. I hate to tell you but 4 million is a pretty pedestrian cap hit these days. Similar players in his range are Emelin, Larson, Brodin, Tanev, Coburn....Would I prefer some of these guys over E?? sure I would but his cap hit is right where it should be. I never said anything about disliking Ericsson. You don't have to tell me what guys of his ilk make - I'm fully aware. What I am saying is that the term of his deal, and his cap hit limit the team in several ways. There are better players to be signed (Quincey, right now) and prospects who should be getting a shot in the next season or two. There are also players on the roster, currently, who should play over Ericsson, IMO. I'm not harping on Ericsson, I'm just not a fan of the situation. I don't fault Ericsson for his contract, I fault Ken Holland for giving it to him. 1 jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hack & Whack Rule! 160 Report post Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) Kindl and Hudler will get along on Florida. Edited February 27, 2016 by Hack & Whack Rule! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted February 27, 2016 What is he worth then? He falls right into the value of what similar players make. Just because you don't like him doesn't make his value less. I hate to tell you but 4 million is a pretty pedestrian cap hit these days. Similar players in his range are Emelin, Larson, Brodin, Tanev, Coburn....Would I prefer some of these guys over E?? sure I would but his cap hit is right where it should be. Seems now that many of the better defensemen around the league are young guys on cheap RFA deals. Makes E's deal look worse than it really is. The length is troublesome since it makes him hard to move, but the hit is fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Berzeench 310 Report post Posted February 27, 2016 Seems now that many of the better defensemen around the league are young guys on cheap RFA deals. Makes E's deal look worse than it really is. The length is troublesome since it makes him hard to move, but the hit is fair. I thought we were deep at D this offseason, but watching Marchenko/Ouellet and a lot of Grifs games, I can tell you that we are only deep at #7 defensemen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted February 27, 2016 Horrible move. Traded to a division rival. Tank now. The Cup is going to Florida Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted February 28, 2016 Horrible move. Traded to a division rival. Tank now. The Cup is going to Florida Never thought those words would be said about the Florida Panthers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 28, 2016 psh that's nothing. He turned Ericsson who was a 9th round LAST player to be drafted in the entire day into a first line defenseman. Not to mention, he was drafted as a forward lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 28, 2016 Good move Kenny. He went to a division rival, but if that was the only team that would take him, oh well. Like others said, he cleared waivers twice already, so to get a late pick and only retain a small portion of his salary is great. Nice to see that contract gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted February 28, 2016 Division rival? Hardly. Also, Kindl is never going to make a team better so we won this deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoalieManPat 1,007 Report post Posted February 28, 2016 I'd much rather have quincy too, but I'm just sayin e is nowhere near as bad as everyone says. Hes not as bad as everyone says but the games he is bad he is REALLY bad. Cant fault him hes a 5-6 dman thats been forced to play above himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) wrong thread Edited February 28, 2016 by chaps80 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted February 28, 2016 Hes not as bad as everyone says but the games he is bad he is REALLY bad. Cant fault him hes a 5-6 dman thats been forced to play above himself. He's had far more terrible games than decent r good games. I think he's an AHL guy who occasionally overachieved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 28, 2016 Division rival? Hardly. Also, Kindl is never going to make a team better so we won this deal. They are a rival this season at least. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted February 28, 2016 So am I to interpret this as we keep 15% of his salary, got some cap space, and a 6th round in return ... not bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted February 28, 2016 They are a rival this season at least. lol To me a rival has to be more than just another opponent. I harbor no ill will or super competitive feelings toward Florida, and I doubt the team does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted February 28, 2016 To me a rival has to be more than just another opponent. I harbor no ill will or super competitive feelings toward Florida, and I doubt the team does. Same here, to be honest I'm just neutral against such a matchup. I consider games against the Hawks, Leafs, Bruins, Habs and a few years ago the Pens a rivalry but even that has really gone down. It'*s a good deal getting something for someone who has been put on waivers two times now is really nice (like I've mentioned in the tdl thread). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnot19 191 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 I'll remember him as one of the few hockey players afraid of physical play, thank god he's gone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 952 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 Jakub has been in a wing wheel for a while now-He has had his share of ups and downs since he played his first game with the griffins in 2005 and I wish him the best of luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hey man nice shot! 144 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 Was high on him for year,sad it didn't go like i hoped:( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 For all those sad about a blockbuster move not being made... Just remember: Jakub Kindl is no longer a Detroit Red Wing. 5 Ally, krsmith17, TheXym and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 So this was our only deadline move? That's fine with me. 1 e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites