Larktha7139 6 Report post Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) How can Boston's % be higher than ours by 9% pts? We have one game on them and if we get 2 pts, we leap frog them. We control our own destiny. I guess this prediction takes other factors into consideration? Strength of opponents in remaining games, etc? It's because of the IF, we don't have those two points.... We win that game in hand and pass them those percentages will change a lotCrazy part about Boston and Detroit.... It's looking it could be 3rd in the division or out of playoffs unless philly or isles stumble. Edited March 25, 2016 by Larktha7139 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 987 Report post Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) IF we don't crap the bed against Pitt and Boston loses we leapfrog ....just did a refresh on the site and its showing us at 65% http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Eastern/Atlantic/Detroit2.html So the cheering section for Saturday games for Detroit obviously or why the @#%!#% am I on a Wings board..lol Toronto don't feel as scummy as when I cheered for Hawks against Philly Arizona Florida kinda keeps Tampa in range I miss anything? Going to show my faith and buying tickets for playoffs round 1 game 2 on April 15 along with a plane ticket from the Atl. They dont make it I guess I hit the casinos. Edited March 25, 2016 by AtlantaHotWings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted March 25, 2016 6 teams separated by 4 points Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hack & Whack Rule! 160 Report post Posted March 26, 2016 Just outta curiosity...am I the only one that sees Smith as a pretty big asset on this push for a playoff appearance? He's picked up his game and he's our most physical player right now. I was on the fence about him for a while, but I'm really liking what I see. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Just outta curiosity...am I the only one that sees Smith as a pretty big asset on this push for a playoff appearance? He's picked up his game and he's our most physical player right now. I was on the fence about him for a while, but I'm really liking what I see. Playoff push? I don't know about that. Big asset? Not the biggest. An asset? For sure. Our big assets in the last 5 games or so have been - Datsyuk, secondary scoring (thank you Glendog, Helm and Sheahan), and PP finally clicking. Without those 3 factors we would be nowhere. Smith and the rest of the defense have made a lot of errors. But in terms of Smith overall - I can't complain - he's been doing pretty well and playing the role we need him to. Way better than last season and years before. Edited March 26, 2016 by kickazz 1 Gordie Howe hat trick reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) After today's showing .... I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it is 0% Edited March 26, 2016 by RedWingsRox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacksoni 418 Report post Posted March 26, 2016 I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it is 0% Having studied statistics, I'll remark that one always has to allow for error variance, i.e. when s*** happens. So I'll counter your 0% with 0.5% likelihood. 1 RedWingsRox reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted March 26, 2016 Team fighting for a playoff spot shows up like this far too often. They don't have the fire that they need. Missing the playoffs could be a good thing long run. Not only would they get a better pick and a shot at #1 overall, but maybe missing will leave enough of a bad taste in their mouths so they never want to do it again and they'll play like they actually want to win instead of coasting and trying to do it their own way instead of buying into the system. Also, there's no more "we need to keep the streak going" argument for making half measures or not playing the younger players who need to be playing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted March 26, 2016 -0.5% I was never good at math. 1 Jacksoni reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derblaueClaus 1,668 Report post Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Very much of our chances depend on what Boston and/or the Isles do tonight. Let's hope that the Leafs and Hurricanes bring their A game tonight..... Edited March 26, 2016 by derblaueClaus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted March 26, 2016 If our playoff hopes depends of unsucces of other teams then we don't deserve playoff spot. 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted March 27, 2016 Philly Lost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derblaueClaus 1,668 Report post Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Detroit Red Wings Playoff Chances Lost to Pittsburgh 2-7, playoff odds down 14.8 to 46.1% Detroit 2 Pittsburgh 7 - 12.7 Arizona 2 Philadelphia 1 + 5.9 Toronto 1 Boston 3 - 4.4 Carolina 3 NY Islanders 4 (ot) - 0.9 Edited March 27, 2016 by derblaueClaus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,959 Report post Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Here is what I think: We have 5 more games before the Boston game. Boston has 4. On paper, we have the easier schedule (Buffalo, Montreal, Minnesota, Toronto, Philly) and theirs (New Jersey, St. Louis, Chicago, Carolina.) I believe we need to go 4-1 AT least in that span and Boston needs to go 1-3. That would put us up 3 points on them before the game and then we MUST beat them to avoid a last game "in or out" situation. IF we can do this, it won't matter what happens the last game, BUT even if we accomplish this scenario yet lose to Boston, we will only be 1 up and both having one more game. Ours against NYR and theirs against OTT. IMO if we go anything less than 4-1 before the Boston game, we are out. If they go anything more than 1-3, we are out. Not mathematically, but in all likelihood. I know we are still tied for the last wildcard spot, but I don't think we are overtaking PHL for the wildcard, they still have a game in hand, but again, we possibly could, but we have to keep our sights set on Boston to get that 3rd spot. Edited March 27, 2016 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted March 27, 2016 Here is what I think: We have 5 more games before the Boston game. Boston has 4. On paper, we have the easier schedule (Buffalo, Montreal, Minnesota, Toronto, Philly) and theirs (New Jersey, St. Louis, Chicago, Carolina.) I believe we need to go 4-1 AT least in that span and Boston needs to go 1-3. That would put us up 3 points on them before the game and then we MUST beat them to avoid a last game "in or out" situation. IF we can do this, it won't matter what happens the last game, BUT even if we accomplish this scenario yet lose to Boston, we will only be 1 up and both having one more game. Ours against NYR and theirs against OTT. IMO if we go anything less than 4-1 before the Boston game, we are out. If they go anything more than 1-3, we are out. Not mathematically, but in all likelihood. I know we are still tied for the last wildcard spot, but I don't think we are overtaking PHL for the wildcard, they still have a game in hand, but again, we possibly could, but we have to keep our sights set on Boston to get that 3rd spot. Given the way they show up like they're a rec league team who's just there to drink beer at least every other game, I think it's highly unlikely they even go 3-2 in the next 5, much less 4-1. They're toast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,959 Report post Posted March 27, 2016 unfortunately you are correct. I said when Holland sat on his hands at the deadline that we were doomed, and it looks like we are. Should've just traded away all the UFA's to contenders for picks and at least then we could see a method to his madness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hack & Whack Rule! 160 Report post Posted March 27, 2016 I didn't see the game last night, but a 7-2 loss pretty much speaks for itself. At this point, I don't really care if they make the playoffs because they're going to suck anyway. This team needs a makeover like a Kardashian needs attention. I don't care which side of the bench gets shaken up, maybe both need it, but laziness and entitlement are some big issues here. 1 KingBobCat reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingBobCat 19 Report post Posted March 27, 2016 Said it before... I don't care if this team doesn't make the playoffs. The way they're playing, they wouldn't do anything this year anyways. I don't even care if they don't make it for a few years if that's what it takes to make meaningful steps toward getting the right balance of players (and coaching) who show up every night... When we played Colorado outdoors this year, there was a pre-show featuring the story of the rivalry back in the late 90's early 2000's. As I sat there and watched the fantastic guys we had on the team then and how freaking awesome we used to be, I though "God, what a stark comparison to where we are now..." It's sadly true... 1 Hack & Whack Rule! reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krayzie_Bone 58 Report post Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) I would say 30- or 40% tops now. It doesent really matter what they do just need someone else to mess this up as bad as detroit. Edited March 27, 2016 by Krayzie_Bone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted March 27, 2016 To me it's very simple, if you need others to lose you don't deserve the playoffs anyways. This team looks like it has their off-season vacations and tee-times already planned. Even last year the odds were a bit better but whatever, only 6 games to go. 1 KingBobCat reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Datsyukian Deke 127 Report post Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) 7 games to go for us, not 6. For the Bruins it's 6, and that's the team to catch. Comparing the schedules, it really comes down to winning in Boston to get in, if you calculate the likely results for the other games: Boston: @Devils @Blues @Blackhawks vs Canes vs Wings vs Sens If you go with W-L-L-W-L-W, it's 6 more points for a final 94. Detroit: vs Sabres @ Habs vs Wild @Leafs vs Flyers @Bruins @Rangers Winning against the 3 lottery teams and the Bruins gives us 8 points, so it would be one more win (or two OT losses.. ) out of the three games against Wild, Flyers and Rangers to get to 95. Which isn't all that unrealistic by numbers and records...but right now, I wouldn't bet against us losing vs Buffalo, either. .... EDIT: Oh, I thought Philly had 87 points, but it's 85. Their schedule: vs Jets vs Caps vs Sens @Pens @Wings vs Leafs vs Pens vs Islanders 6 expectable points vs lottery teams, but then again..a win for us could get us in, because they could easily lose three of their other four games. ... "Coulda, woulda, shoulda", yeah, I know...we would prefer to have 95 right now, not 85, that's for sure. On the other hand, without Petr's outstanding play for the majority of the season, we would sit at 75 points right now, at best. Edited March 27, 2016 by The Datsyukian Deke 2 AtlantaHotWings and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FireCaptain 563 Report post Posted March 29, 2016 Detroit Red Wings Playoff Chances Beat Buffalo 3-2, playoff odds up 4.3 to 50.6% 87 points 38 27-11 Back to being a 50% team with a .500 record.. This is a tough year to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted March 29, 2016 If our playoff hopes depends of unsucces of other teams then we don't deserve playoff spot. Doesn't matter. If we get in, we get in. Who cares how. I guess I don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted March 29, 2016 If our playoff hopes depends of unsucces of other teams then we don't deserve playoff spot. And the teams that ultimately were unsuccessful down the stretch and ended he season with less points than the Wings overall would deserve that playoff spot? Either way, the Wings still control their own destiny. At least right now we aren't reliant on others to lose. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted March 29, 2016 If our playoff hopes depends of unsucces of other teams then we don't deserve playoff spot. I, for one, have always watched the win-losses of other teams at the end of the season to see where we will slot in for the playoffs. I have always rooted against other teams and for teams I wouldn't at the end of the season so that we get better positioning or a more favorable matchup. This year is no different except I'm actually watching these games (ours and around the league) to see if we make it or not. ...and while I'm a little nervous, I still think we're making it. #letsgostreaking 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites