HNIC Rumor: Datsyuk to return to Russia

[kylee 727]

Datsyuk's house is up for sale? It's from a user on HFboards so take it for what it's worth unless proven otherwise.

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=2052435&page=8

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

People getting waaaay too worked up over this... I'd bet anything on him finishing out that contract. It seems to be a little less likely that he'd sign for another season after next, but I still wouldn't rule that out either...

LGW getting worked up? That's a first.

[kickazz 5,459]

Datsyuk's house is up for sale? It's from a user on HFboards so take it for what it's worth unless proven otherwise.

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=2052435&page=8

They said that like 3 years ago too. And I think it was actually a thread on this forum last year lol.

http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/topic/77509-datsyuks-house/

Edited April 5, 2016 by kickazz

[PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935]

What happened to his face ... shiner in the right eye!

He had a stick blade to his face (unpenalized) in one of the last games. I forget which one, but that was probably the cause. He had to go to the trainer to stop the blood and missed part of the game.

[WingsallTheway 383]

I've read that some people are OK with Pav leaving behind his contract, and others who think its bogus.

Pavel Datsyuk is by far, my most favorite player of all time. I try to emulate the way he plays and I'm focused on him the entire time hes on the ice. I've travelled to 4 Wings games to see Pav, and only had luck once because he was injured. I think Pav is the reason I am a major Wings fan today, because I used to get shivers watching him carry the puck as a kid. I find myself not as interested in the team any more, and I think a major part of that is Pavel declining. (I'm still hardcore, just not nearly as much)

Having said that,

Its absolute BS if Pavel decides to leave. I could understand if he couldn't play any more or if his contract was over. This is a job, where he gets paid ALOT of money. I can't sign a 4 year contract at the local chemistry lab and leave halfway through. Not to mention how hard it handcuffs the Wings capwise and roster wise. Pavel is contemplating leaving the NHL, where he has a contract, to go play in the KHL. I dont care how old you are, who you are, or how loyal you are. If you are able to play you have to do it.

Honestly, if he leaves, I think that will be the dagger in him having his jersey retired. Pavel has literally had a perfect career and can tarnish it with just 1 move like this one.

Obviously, people will debate each one of my statements but I think it would be a 50/50 split of opinions on whether Pav leaving is OK or not.

[Jacksoni 418]

Pavel is old. Rather slow. Doesn't turn too well these days.

And he's by far our best player. Elite puck handler and scares teams to shadow him with 2 defenders at age 38. Our most creative player. Always takes defensive responsibility. Steals pucks from top10 competition. Cannot be replaced.

Even if he wants to go, I don't care. He's getting paid and he shouldn't go anywhere. Scare him or fondle him, whatever. We need what we pay for.

[WingedWheel91 271]

I'll say it again:

These people get paid millions and millions of dollars annually to shoot a rubber puck into a mesh net; When these same people push for a 3 year contract at 35+ years old (which is not the organizations idea) - they do so knowing the implications early "retirement" will cause - so I have no idea how you can justify leaving after the 2nd year, to go and do the exact same thing somewhere else because you "want to gives back to Russia people".

That's great Pavel - and can you also "gives back" our $7.5 Million salary cap penalty which basically prevents us from signing Steven Stamkos?

Stop being emotional, Pavel Datsyuk is not injured or unable to be an effective NHL player... He is literally going to do the exact same thing next season for a different team without caring about the setback it causes the Detroit Red Wings... The same team that signed him in 2001 (when the "Russia people" weren't paying nearly as much money to it's players).

I don't know about you, but if someone in a foreign country offered to pay me $74,525,000 over 14 seasons to play hockey, I probably honour the 15th season as well.

[marcaractac 3,963]

I'll say it again:

These people get paid millions and millions of dollars annually to shoot a rubber puck into a mesh net; When these same people push for a 3 year contract at 35+ years old (which is not the organizations idea) - they do so knowing the implications early "retirement" will cause - so I have no idea how you can justify leaving after the 2nd year, to go and do the exact same thing somewhere else because you "want to gives back to Russia people".

That's great Pavel - and can you also "gives back" our $7.5 Million salary cap penalty which basically prevents us from signing Steven Stamkos?

Stop being emotional, Pavel Datsyuk is not injured or unable to be an effective NHL player... He is literally going to do the exact same thing next season for a different team without caring about the setback it causes the Detroit Red Wings... The same team that signed him in 2001 (when the "Russia people" weren't paying nearly as much money to it's players).

I don't know about you, but if someone in a foreign country offered to pay me $74,525,000 over 14 seasons to play hockey, I probably honour the 15th season as well.

That cap hit would be painfully easy to get rid if. It absolutely would not prevent taking a run at Stamkos if he were to show interest in Detroit.

The guy is in his late 30's. If he feels he cannot contribute at the nhl level the way he used to, he should never be judges for retiring. Even if he did play in Russia, it's a very different game than in North America.

[WingedWheel91 271]

That cap hit would be painfully easy to get rid if. It absolutely would not prevent taking a run at Stamkos if he were to show interest in Detroit.

The guy is in his late 30's. If he feels he cannot contribute at the nhl level the way he used to, he should never be judges for retiring. Even if he did play in Russia, it's a very different game than in North America.

You do realize there is also a cap-recapture penalty if you trade a player to another team, and then they retire before their contract expires right?

It also isn't a certainty that the NHL will approve this trade and sign off on it.

In terms of his effectiveness, this was something he should have anticipated when he signed a 3 year contract (less than 2 years ago). Nick Lidstrom retired for the same reason - but also had the foresight to take (cap friendly) 1 year deals.

[krsmith17 7,191]

I love how people are bashing Datsyuk for doing something that he hasn't even done yet, and in my opinion, won't do... Pav will honor his contract, he's not going anywhere any time soon...

[WingedWheel91 271]

I love how people are bashing Datsyuk for doing something that he hasn't even done yet, and in my opinion, won't do... Pav will honor his contract, he's not going anywhere any time soon...

I certainly didn't get that opinion listening to his press conference.

I hope I'm wrong - but if he doesn't what will you say then?

[frankgrimes 1,836]

I'll say it again:

These people get paid millions and millions of dollars annually to shoot a rubber puck into a mesh net; When these same people push for a 3 year contract at 35+ years old (which is not the organizations idea) - they do so knowing the implications early "retirement" will cause - so I have no idea how you can justify leaving after the 2nd year, to go and do the exact same thing somewhere else because you "want to gives back to Russia people".

That's great Pavel - and can you also "gives back" our $7.5 Million salary cap penalty which basically prevents us from signing Steven Stamkos?

Stop being emotional, Pavel Datsyuk is not injured or unable to be an effective NHL player... He is literally going to do the exact same thing next season for a different team without caring about the setback it causes the Detroit Red Wings... The same team that signed him in 2001 (when the "Russia people" weren't paying nearly as much money to it's players).

I don't know about you, but if someone in a foreign country offered to pay me $74,525,000 over 14 seasons to play hockey, I probably honour the 15th season as well.

Good I hate this stupid the guys are making millions and millions of money argument so much because compared to other sports hockeyplayers are underpaid!

Pasha can do whatever the hell wants in my mind he has given me more than enough joy over so many many years if he decides to leave and spend more time with his family in Russia while still being able to play top 6 more power to him. Would it suck for the Wings? For sure but guess what there are options to get around that caphit...also if the recapture crap is t hat bad why didn't the GMs tell their owners that his is a bad idea and not fight against it back in 2012?

If he stays great another year of watching the magicman, if he decides to leave I'll be happy for him and would wish him nothing but the best.

[krsmith17 7,191]

Press conference? I seen the brief interview, but never knew there was an actual press conference?... Or is that what you're referring to?

From the interview, I get the impression that he was getting very frustrated with all the questions surrounding him and his future with the team, when he's still under contract after this season. He doesn't want to, nor should he have to answer any questions regarding next season, especially when his team is in a dog fight to get into the playoffs. His only concern right now should be and likely is getting mentally and physically prepared for the upcoming game(s).

Why aren't reporters / diggers asking Mrazek or DeKeyser about their upcoming contracts? Why do most RFA's wait until after the season to get their contract worked out? Simply because in the midst of a playoff push, that's the last thing they should be worrying about... Same reason Stamkos isn't necessarily done in Tampa...

Anyway, IF Pav were to leave after this season, I would be very disappointed, but no I wouldn't burn my Datsyuk jersey, and forget about everything he has done for this organization. I'm not even thinking about that though, like I said, he's not going anywhere. I'd bet money on it...

[kickazz 5,459]

He won't leave.

Anyways IDK about you guys but if I was Datsyuk I'd be trolling the hell out of the press. Sounds to me like he may be doing just that. Most likely cause Helene annoyed the hell out of him by asking him the same question in 5 different ways. I mean like he was legit pissed in the interview - I've never seen him that way.

Has Datsyuk ever been upfront to the press ? No seriously?

Edited April 6, 2016 by kickazz

[WingedWheel91 271]

Good I hate this stupid the guys are making millions and millions of money argument so much because compared to other sports hockeyplayers are underpaid!

Pasha can do whatever the hell wants in my mind he has given me more than enough joy over so many many years if he decides to leave and spend more time with his family in Russia while still being able to play top 6 more power to him. Would it suck for the Wings? For sure but guess what there are options to get around that caphit...also if the recapture crap is t hat bad why didn't the GMs tell their owners that his is a bad idea and not fight against it back in 2012?

If he stays great another year of watching the magicman, if he decides to leave I'll be happy for him and would wish him nothing but the best.

He has made $74,525,000 over the past 14 seasons.

I know I haven't made that much money? But I can tell you that if I decided to terminate my contract a year before it expires, and go work for a competitor because it's closer to where I live - my former employer would literally file a lawsuit against me.

Forget hockey players - these are professional athletes, and in relative terms they are the most overpaid people in the history of human existence. Yes, you can retire at anytime you wish... as long as you aren't contractually obliged to that team for another year, and will potentially penalize them if you do leave.

Press conference? I seen the brief interview, but never knew there was an actual press conference?... Or is that what you're referring to?

From the interview, I get the impression that he was getting very frustrated with all the questions surrounding him and his future with the team, when he's still under contract after this season. He doesn't want to, nor should he have to answer any questions regarding next season, especially when his team is in a dog fight to get into the playoffs. His only concern right now should be and likely is getting mentally and physically prepared for the upcoming game(s).

Why aren't reporters / diggers asking Mrazek or DeKeyser about their upcoming contracts? Why do most RFA's wait until after the season to get their contract worked out? Simply because in the midst of a playoff push, that's the last thing they should be worrying about... Same reason Stamkos isn't necessarily done in Tampa...

Anyway, IF Pav were to leave after this season, I would be very disappointed, but no I wouldn't burn my Datsyuk jersey, and forget about everything he has done for this organization. I'm not even thinking about that though, like I said, he's not going anywhere. I'd bet money on it...

The interview is what I meant.

[kickazz 5,459]

I mean seriously watch the interview.

Helene St James: "Pavel can you address the speculation about your return to Russia this summer?"

Datsyuk: "What did you say about Russia?? Are you come to Russia?? I'm not come to Russia yet."

Helene St James: "Are you going to play in Detroit next season?"

Datsyuk: "I have one year left on contract, and 3 games left and this more focus for me now"

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2016/04/04/detroit-red-wings-pavel-datsyuk/82611354/

Edited April 6, 2016 by kickazz

[marcaractac 3,963]

You do realize there is also a cap-recapture penalty if you trade a player to another team, and then they retire before their contract expires right?

It also isn't a certainty that the NHL will approve this trade and sign off on it.

In terms of his effectiveness, this was something he should have anticipated when he signed a 3 year contract (less than 2 years ago). Nick Lidstrom retired for the same reason - but also had the foresight to take (cap friendly) 1 year deals.

The cap recapture penalty is for the contracts like zetterberg that were signed before the new cba. Dats contract is nothing like that.

He might decide he is done. s*** happens. It's not like it is gonna handcuff the team in any way other than the loss of having Datsyuk (assuming he even does call it quits after this season).

The league cannot allow stuff like the Clarkson or pronger trades and then suddenly block a Datsyuk trade if he decides to retire. Unless they put something against it in the next cba there isn't jack s*** they could do about it.

He gave the organization years of service, played through injuries, was away from his family all the time. More often than not took a huge discount to play here. In the end he doesn't owe anybody anything.

[frankgrimes 1,836]

He has made $74,525,000 over the past 14 seasons.

I know I haven't made that much money? But I can tell you that if I decided to terminate my contract a year before it expires, and go work for a competitor because it's closer to where I live - my former employer would literally file a lawsuit against me.

Forget hockey players - these are professional athletes, and in relative terms they are the most overpaid people in the history of human existence. Yes, you can retire at anytime you wish... as long as you aren't contractually obliged to that team for another year, and will potentially penalize them if you do leave.

The interview is what I meant.

Neither have I nor will I ever but guess what I'm also not one of the best of the best of the best hockey players nor a professional athelete in the world.

Professional athletes are far from being the most overpaid people in the history of human existence. That award has to go to a bunch of CEOs who are making millions and millions while never being held responsible and what's their solutions if things are going wrong? Of course firing the employees who didn't do anything wrong or buy out the competition and close them.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I'm sure if he leaves, this will be a discussion for the ages but personally I wouldn't have a problem with it. The team isn't close to being a stanley cup contender and he Pasha is seeing something he hates before his eyes, i.e. declining skills and not being able to stay healthy.

[Barrie 900]

I mean seriously watch the interview.

Helene St James: "Pavel can you address the speculation about your return to Russia this summer?"

Datsyuk: "What did you say about Russia?? Are you come to Russia?? I'm not come to Russia yet."

Helene St James: "Are you going to play in Detroit next season?"

Datsyuk: "I have one year left on contract, and 3 games left and this more focus for me now"

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2016/04/04/detroit-red-wings-pavel-datsyuk/82611354/

I'll add, Pav's doesn't speak the best English, so what he says can easily be miss understood. As mentioned, I say he honor's the contract.

[GMRwings1983 8,794]

Maybe he's worried that Bernie might become President and Pavel has already lived in a Communist country before.