Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

[kickazz 5,459]

^ Thank you for clarifying.

[kliq 3,755]

If we signed Radulov to say a 3 year deal, and then he left to go back to Russia after 1 or 2 years, are we stuck with the cap hit?

[ilmickeyli 40]

If we signed Radulov to say a 3 year deal, and then he left to go back to Russia after 1 or 2 years, are we stuck with the cap hit?

He is under 35, so I don't think so

[krsmith17 7,191]

I think the chances of us signing Stamkos is about 10% at best and same goes for trading for a top pairing defenseman like Trouba. The chance of both happening this summer is slim to none. I'm not saying it would have to be one or the other, but if we could either sign Stamkos and sign or trade for a mid tier defenseman like Quincey or sign Okposo and trade for Trouba, I'd chose option 2 every time.

Bottom line, we need a top pair defenseman far more than we need a number 1 center. We have Larkin that we all expect to become that guy, we don't have anyone right now that projects to be a number one defenseman. We're not legit Cup contenders next season, so I'm okay with letting Larkin develop, and trade for the number one defenseman.

Like I said though, regardless of what else happens, if we sign Stamkos, I'll be quite happy...

[kickazz 5,459]

Radulov's "KHL money" is currently worth around $4 million USD from what I've read.. And he said its not about the money (don't they all though?).

Point is, who knows what kind of money he's looking for/will get until he signs. I think he wants term more so than money.. Just a guess now that he has a child. But I don't think he'll get it. I wouldn't mind him at a year or two prove it type deal..

Agreed that stamkos at 10 mill/7 years is very worth it. Especially giving up nothing to get him. I'd be stoked if we manage it

Are you sure it's $4 million per year? Because according to his initial contract signing the articles states he makes $9.2 million per year.

On Monday, the news came that Radulov signed a four-year contract with the Moscow club. Radulov is set to make 300 million rubles per year, around $9.2 million.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/puck-daddy/alex-radulov-signs-4-khl-contract-nhl-ever-140352749--nhl.html

Edited May 18, 2016 by kickazz

[DickieDunn 2,571]

Stamkos is a no brainier if he was willing to sign in Detroit. People defend Abdelkader's deal then say one of the best players in the game isn't worth a huge deal

[kickazz 5,459]

Also want to add that Kyle Okposo primarily plays with John Tavares (who is regarded another top 5 centerman in the world). So expect him to produce around the same level as Tomas Tatar or Nyquist when he's here. Especially because we no longer have any legitimate 1Cs. Okposo did well with Tavares, he wouldn't do the same with Larkin. Expect his 64 points to drop to 45-50 here.

Edited May 18, 2016 by kickazz

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

Are you sure it's $4 million per year? Because according to his initial contract signing the articles states he makes $9.2 million per year.

On Monday, the news came that Radulov signed a four-year contract with the Moscow club. Radulov is set to make 300 million rubles per year, around $9.2 million.[/size]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/puck-daddy/alex-radulov-signs-4-khl-contract-nhl-ever-140352749--nhl.html

I think that just goes to show you how much the Ruble has tanked.

300,000,000 rubles today is only worth about 4.6 USD today.

[kickazz 5,459]

I think that just goes to show you how much the Ruble has tanked.

300,000,000 rubles today is only worth about 4.6 USD today.

Ah ok.

Maybe that's why he wants to come back to the NHL xD

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

Ah ok.

Maybe that's why he wants to come back to the NHL xD

BINGO haha

[LeftWinger 4,953]

Here's a top line for you

Okposo-Stamkos-Abby

[krsmith17 7,191]

Zero chance we land Stamkos and Okposo... I think there's going to be a lot of disappointed people here after free agency. Get the pitch forks ready and prepare your Holland sucks barrage now...

[LeftWinger 4,953]

I think every year there are a bunch of disappointed people here.

I guess what may happen at the draft will have a lot to do with where Holland goes on July 1.

If he dumps Dats and Jimmy's salary and proceeds to trade a couple of forwards and a couple of D, then we know something is going to happen or he hopes to.

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

I think every year there are a bunch of disappointed people here.

I guess what may happen at the draft will have a lot to do with where Holland goes on July 1.

If he dumps Dats and Jimmy's salary and proceeds to trade a couple of forwards and a couple of D, then we know something is going to happen or he hopes to.

It's all about expectations though.

People go a little nutty around here when the "available" names start flying around.

There's 30 teams and it's not like we're in a great cap situation.

[amato 3,210]

Ah ok.

Maybe that's why he wants to come back to the NHL xD

Exactly what I was thinking

Or that's at least part of it, I'm sure.

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

Stamkos is a no brainier if he was willing to sign in Detroit. People defend Abdelkader's deal then say one of the best players in the game isn't worth a huge deal

Let it go man...

Do you have a monthly quota on mentioning Abdelkader's contract?

[kickazz 5,459]

The Abdelkader salary argument doesnt even make sense anymore.

Nyquist has a higher cap hit than Abdelkader and had two less goals and one more point than him.

Nyquist - $4.75 mill. 17 goals 43 points.

Abdelkader - $4.25 mill 19 goals 42 points.

Tell me again why this is an issue? The only issue I had was the length of term. Oh wait maybe the issue is Abdelkader actually hits his opponents, kills penalties and stands up for his teammates.

Edited May 18, 2016 by kickazz

[kliq 3,755]

Stamkos is a no brainier if he was willing to sign in Detroit. People defend Abdelkader's deal then say one of the best players in the game isn't worth a huge deal

Are you seriously still complaining about this? Let it go, it's done with. You don't need to complain about it in every single thread. Do what Bill did and make an Abby's contract sucks thread and post in it every day if you want.

I do agree that Stamkos is a no brainer. He is the definition of a franchise player, and you do not pass up on franchise players in their prime. Even at 10mil per year, I would take Stamkos over Green/Nyquist any day (since their cap hits are around 10 mil together).

[Bannedforlife 403]

People seem to be wondering about the severity of the blood clot and whether it could return.

Stamkos's clot is not like other blood clot stories you've heard before.

Timonen, Fleischman and Dupuis all were genetically predisposed to have blot clots. Stamkos is not.

His was most likely caused by trauma which would mean that after treating this, he should be no more likely to get a clot than anyone else.

You can hear Bob McKenzie talk about it here. It's actually quite interesting.

Im more concerned about his leg than his blood clot. His numbers havent exactly been elite since he came back from that.

[LeftWinger 4,953]

What do you think it would take to acquire Okposo's rights and Hamonic from the Isles then what would it take to turn Hamonic to the Jets for Trouba?

Also if I'm going youth over our own UFA's, I wouldn't mind trying to get Rychel to add to our mix of kids, but then again there's that expansion thingy....maybe after expansion I'd try to get him.

Edited May 18, 2016 by LeftWinger

[frankgrimes 1,836]

Regardless if Wings were listed as one of Stamkos' interested teams. Holland would go for him. He's not the type to pass up on a top 3 player.

So regardless of what folks fantasize, the NHL GMs play their cards differently than we do.

But like I said. Realistically we have a higher chance of ended up with Radulov + Okposo. But don't kid yourself into thinking Holland doesn't prefer Stamkos

I was a huge fan of the Okposo, Backes and/or Looch signing but that was before the Wings needed to replace an elite number 1 center now the job has become so much harder. If not Stammer I don't even know who might fill that need. I know people expect Larkin to become that but I honestly think it's asking too much right now and it spells trouble .

Also the Isles would be stupid to let Okposo go their offense is already Tavares plus X without him the X becomes even smaller

Somehow I wish the Wings would sign Radulov so I could enjoy the gongshow he will create

[Bannedforlife 403]

What do you think it would take to acquire Okposo's rights and Hamonic from the Isles then what would it take to turn Hamonic to the Jets for Trouba?

Also if I'm going youth over our own UFA's, I wouldn't mind trying to get Rychel to add to our mix of kids, but then again there's that expansion thingy....maybe after expansion I'd try to get him.

NYI: DeKeyser

DET: Trouba, Okposo

WPG: Hamonic, Nyquist

[DickieDunn 2,571]

What do you think it would take to acquire Okposo's rights and Hamonic from the Isles then what would it take to turn Hamonic to the Jets for Trouba?

Also if I'm going youth over our own UFA's, I wouldn't mind trying to get Rychel to add to our mix of kids, but then again there's that expansion thingy....maybe after expansion I'd try to get him.

Why wouldn't the Islea just trade Hamonic for Trouba, and why would the Jeta do that?

[kickazz 5,459]

Realistically speaking Zetterberg will likely still be the 1C. I know we all keep coming up with scenarios of how Larkin will be 1C, AA will be 2C etc. But unless we fill the 1C spot with another NHL developed centerman... Zetterberg keeps the spot and Larkin likely takes 2C at best. Otherwise he'll continue to be on Wing.

This is why I'm hoping either Datsyuk miraculously stays one more year or we miraculously get Stamkos. Or we try to sign Backes. Otherwise read paragraph one.

We have a crap ton of wingers. We have a lot of young D-men coming through the system but we have zero NHL 1st line or 2nd line centers. Larkin was atrocious on the faceoffs and AA wasn't any better. They'd rather have Zetterberg win his usual 50% draws than have Larkin winning 40% or maybe even 30% when he's up against guys like Bergeron, Toews, Kopitar etc.

We're in a pretty s***ty transition to be honest. I know in time things will be better, but Datsyuk dropping the ball on us and Zetterberg's decline does screw us pretty bad for next season. I'm only speaking of next season btw.

Edited May 19, 2016 by kickazz

[LeftWinger 4,953]

The Abdelkader salary argument doesnt even make sense anymore.

Nyquist has a higher cap hit than Abdelkader and had two less goals and one more point than him.

Nyquist - $4.75 mill. 17 goals 43 points.

Abdelkader - $4.25 mill 19 goals 42 points.

Tell me again why this is an issue? The only issue I had was the length of term. Oh wait maybe the issue is Abdelkader actually hits his opponents, kills penalties and stands up for his teammates.

I too didn't like the term more so than the cap, but if indeed he will eventually be one of our captains, I guess it's good he's here for a while.

NYI: DeKeyser

DET: Trouba, Okposo

WPG: Hamonic, Nyquist

Well DD isn't going anywhere, so nix that idea...