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Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

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1. His blood clot issues have been taken care of. It's a non issue.

2. He is a center. If you haven't noticed, we kind of need a #1 center right now.

They are taken care of for now , who knows what'll happen in the future

Why are Tampa refusing to play stamkos at center? I watched leafs lunch today as well and they talked about it and Craig button said Steve stamkos sees himself as a center but is he really?

Anyways what happens if he comes here and it turns out he's better suited on the wing and causes drama? No thanks

Lol. IF ONLY the Wings had MORE players that would demand to play center. We have zero top 6 centers.

I think you just listed the primary reason why the Red Wings might throw money at Stamkos.

Larkin isn't a top 6 center? ... Ok there

I'm not a fan of paying $1000 for a decent computer but I'd do it if I needed a great computer. People act like Stamkos isn't one of the top few players in the world.

He's not

Mcdavid toews Kane Cindy hedman ovechkin karlsson doughty price Benn seguin kopitar Tavares come to mind as being better than him and I'm sure there's loads more

Tarasenko Suter Keith etc ...

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Scratch Sami Vatanen off the trade market list: http://ducks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=886375 Re-upped in Anaheim for 4 yrs.

Didn't expect that one. I would have secured Hampus Lindholm first if I was Ducks administration. It'll be interesting to see what's going on with Lindholm. I am Guessing that he's not liking the offer he has gotten from the Ducks. They might possibly bait him for a lower bridge deal and future payments.

Oh boy are they wrong there. He's dynamite now and I can easily see him reach Hedman(Tampa bay) capability. I hope our backoffice starts firing shots at Anaheim.

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No.

People have predicted that Chicago will be screwed down the road in the future. Basically from here on out. I don't know anyone who said they would be screwed 2-3 years ago. Toews and Kane were locked in 2014. Chicago won the cup twice before both of their contracts were made. So no, they haven't found a way to get it "done" every year. Their troubles are only yet to begin. Starting with having to get rid of Bickell for a high price, having to re-sign Shaw, and eventually Panarin. All their "top" players are locked until 2021. And it looks as though Pittsburgh is the type of team to spoil their party. Chicago got knocked out first round this year and next year even if they make it far, I don't see them beating the Caps or Pittsburgh. They're essentially locked up with a roster until 2021 and there's not much they can do to change it. So either win with it or be stuck with it. Whereas the Caps and Pittsburgh can still keep adding a lot of pieces to get better. Not to mention both Caps and Penguins have BETTER players for cheaper.

I'm definitely not saying that they don't have problems, but I'm not about to count them out yet. And don't get me wrong, I'd be happy to be wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised if they find a way to make the necessary moves to stay competitive through Toews' and Kane's primes.

And people have most definitely been saying that they're screwed around here for years. It's been a very, very common occurrence since their first Cup win in this era.

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We seriously better get in on the conversation in Calgary, they are looking for a proven goalie. Kenny, don't miss out on this one to move Jimmy!

Howard's going to get moved. It was inevitable. The fact that they're acknowledging it in the press now and it's Detroit says to me one way or another, moving Howard is a done deal. Again, people need to keep in mind that even if Holland wanted to keep Howard, does Howard really want to surrender to being a backup at this stage in his career? No way.

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Lmao

They have vasilevsky who's just as good and cheap , and with expansion draft coming they'll lose a goalie guaranteed

Ben bishop is as good as gone

Vasilevsky is just as good as Ben Bishop? Lmao. By what stats exactly? GAA? Save %? Wins?

Larkin isn't a top 6 center? ... Ok there

L...

Wait you think Larkin is a top 6 center? Oh boy. Ok show me all the NHL games he played top 6 center and how his numbers were from face off to possession. Do you even remotely know what you're talking about? Or are you picking out notes from a bowl and just reading random things? Edited by kickazz

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He's not

Mcdavid toews Kane Cindy hedman ovechkin karlsson doughty price Benn seguin kopitar Tavares come to mind as being better than him and I'm sure there's loads more

Tarasenko Suter Keith etc ...

Omg lol. Now I definitely know you're cluless. Hedman, Karlsson, Suter and Keith are defensman.

This guy thinks Connor McDavid is already better than Steven Stamkos.

This might be the most awkward post history in a while.

Edited by kickazz

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Comparing defensemen to a goal scoring forward? Strange logic. Pretty much proven fact that Stamkos is a top 3 goal scorer in the NHL. If you can't admit that then everything your saying is flawed

There's more to being a great hockey player than just scoring goals ... Much rather have a toews/kopitar than stamkos

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There's more to being a great hockey player than just scoring goals ... Much rather have a toews/kopitar than stamkos

Do you even watch the Red Wings? Our issue is scoring. We need scoring. And we need a center. Jesus dude.

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Vasilevsky is just as good as Ben Bishop? Lmao. By what stats exactly? GAA? Save %? Wins? Wait you think Larkin is a top 6 center? Oh boy. Ok show me all the NHL games he played top 6 center and how his numbers were from face off to possession. Do you even remotely know what you're talking about? Or are you picking out notes from a bowl and just reading random things?

You laugh all you want , come and talk to me before the start of this season or the start of the season when Vegas comes and I guarantee you bishop will be gone

Your f***en hilarious ... So Dylan Larkin isnt a redwings center ? He's a future winger now? Based on what? The amount of games thes played ? It's called being a rookie and easing into the league

Guess your jaw will drop when you see Larkin playing center

Omg lol. Now I definitely know you're cluless. Hedman, Karlsson, Suter and Keith are defensman.

This guy thinks Connor McDavid is already better than Steven Stamkos.

This might be the most awkward post history in a while.

Your mental

You or whomever it was said stamkos was one of the best players in the league , you don't include defensemen in the discussion of best players in the league?

Wtf's wrong with you

Do you even watch the Red Wings? Our issue is scoring. We need scoring. And we need a center. Jesus dude.

We have a lot of issues ... Our main one is defense

A lot of players regressed last season , nyquist/Tatar being perfect examples and hopefully if they are both here they'll get back to being as good as they can be

And I'm sure we'll make some deals/sign someone

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You laugh all you want , come and talk to me before the start of this season or the start of the season when Vegas comes and I guarantee you bishop will be gone

Your f***en hilarious ... So Dylan Larkin isnt a redwings center ? He's a future winger now? Based on what? The amount of games thes played ? It's called being a rookie and easing into the league

Guess your jaw will drop when you see Larkin playing center

Your mental

You or whomever it was said stamkos was one of the best players in the league , you don't include defensemen in the discussion of best players in the league?

Wtf's wrong with you

We have a lot of issues ... Our main one is defense

A lot of players regressed last season , nyquist/Tatar being perfect examples and hopefully if they are both here they'll get back to being as good as they can be

And I'm sure we'll make some deals/sign someone

Not one bit of intelligence in this post. You failed to provide proof showing Vasilevsky is "just as good" as Bishop. You failed to show Larkin's statistics as an NHL centerman (since you claim he's a top 6 center). Pulling strawman arguments. Comparing centers to defenseman. So if you're just going to keep talking nonesense without any factual evidence then keep going it's fairly obvious you're clueless on quite a few matters here. And no one here has said defense isn't an issue but you're the one bringing up "there's more to hockey than scoring goals" when clearly one of our big issues is scoring goals.

Anyways can't debate with someone who doesn't know how to debate.

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Not one bit of intelligence in this post. You failed to provide proof showing Vasilevsky is "just as good" as Bishop. You failed to show Larkin's statistics as an NHL centerman (since you claim he's a top 6 center). Pulling strawman arguments. Comparing centers to defenseman. So if you're just going to keep talking nonesense without any factual evidence then keep going it's fairly obvious you're clueless on quite a few matters here. And no one here has said defense isn't an issue but you're the one bringing up "there's more to hockey than scoring goals" when clearly one of our big issues is scoring goals.

Anyways can't debate with someone who doesn't know how to debate.

It's quite known Ben bishops name is on the trade block ... Google

Vasilevsky is younger , cheaper and loads of potential and played great for Tampa in the playoffs ... Same as everyone saying penguins would shop fleury to keep Murray , and this was before they won the cup

Is Larkin a future center for the redwings? Yes or no

Comparing centers to defensemen ha , again wtf is wrong with you?? The post said stamkos is one of the best players in the league , when someone says that it includes defensmen and goalies

There's really nothing to debate about

He played center on his return in game 7 vs Pittsburgh :lol:

One game , where as the whole season him playing center was a big issue between stamkos and cooper

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Larkin needs to be training with Gary Roberts

If we can't upgrade our centre situation I would like to see Larkin and Z alternate centre duties. Z may have been washed late in the year but he's probably our best centre to start the season

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Larkin needs to be training with Gary Roberts

If we can't upgrade our centre situation I would like to see Larkin and Z alternate centre duties. Z may have been washed late in the year but he's probably our best centre to start the season

No Z shouldn't play center at all. That's the reason why he gets washed by February. We should try to bring in a center and Larkin, AA, Sheahan should alternate.

Z should go back to playing his natural position on Wing.

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Not one bit of intelligence in this post. You failed to provide proof showing Vasilevsky is "just as good" as Bishop. You failed to show Larkin's statistics as an NHL centerman (since you claim he's a top 6 center). Pulling strawman arguments. Comparing centers to defenseman. So if you're just going to keep talking nonesense without any factual evidence then keep going it's fairly obvious you're clueless on quite a few matters here. And no one here has said defense isn't an issue but you're the one bringing up "there's more to hockey than scoring goals" when clearly one of our big issues is scoring goals.

Anyways can't debate with someone who doesn't know how to debate.

You're "debating" with a fella who thinks every prospect and young player drafted is going to be elite and better than current all-stars.

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No Z shouldn't play center at all. That's the reason why he gets washed by February. We should try to bring in a center and Larkin, AA, Sheahan should alternate.

Z should go back to playing his natural position on Wing.

I like how you didn't mention Glendening. We all know he's in charge of that 4th line ;)

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So if we are comparing Forwards to Defense, are we going to include Goalies in the mix?

Bottom line, you can make an argument that a certain forward is more valuable to his team then a D-man, but you cant say one is "better" then the other. How can you say Price is better then Crosby, or Weber is better then Ovie etc.

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