Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

[LeftWinger 4,953]

I'm telling ya, sign all of Nielsen, Okposo and Martin, coin them the Brooklyn Line and then make a deal for a better defenseman.

[amato 3,210]

Haha this got me good

LeBrun: One GM has told me, 'If anyone offer-sheets one of my guys on Friday, I will offer-sheet one of his guys every year for 10 years.'

And yeah, I agree holland wouldn't offer sheet anyone. But a kucherov/Larkin combo? A guy can dream..

[amato 3,210]

Sounds crazy, but this might actually happen since all 3 happen to be tires that Holland wants to kick...And apparently we have enough to afford all 3...Not sure if that's the best move for the team.

Holland still needs to offer sheet a Canes player before he quits his role as GM...Payback for Feds circa 1998.

Haha right! Two more years until Hanafin is an RFA

[xtrememachine1 795]

Offer sheets are a terrible idea in general, and Holland hasn't nor will he make an offer sheet on a player, plain and simple. There's zero chance he would offer sheet Kucherov, and piss off Yzerman...

With Stamkos gone, I'm really hoping we go after Backes on a short term (2-3 year) deal. We desperately need a number one center to fill in for a couple years while Larkin gets adjusted to the position at the NHL level. I think Backes is the best option available in free agency, and I'd prefer to hold onto our assets to make a trade on the back end, rather than up front.

I think Backes would be the best type of player to fit our team and I value him above any other FA center out there. He's not great, he's not flashy, but I think he'd do well in our system. Take some of the edge off losing Datsyuk. He turned down $5.5 mil from the Blues, so he's going to be at least a $6-7 mil player to make it worth his while to leave St Louis. He's 32 and if we give him a big salary like that it has to be for just 2-3 years.

[kickazz 5,459]

$6-7 million for Backes is too much. Would rather pay Okposo 7 million and upgrade Larkin to his center.

[krsmith17 7,191]

$6-7M is too much to sign any of the remaining UFA's to a long term contract in my opinion. I would like Backes and / or Okposo, but I wouldn't sign either of them to that kind of money unless it's significantly less term. Backes at $6M, short term (2-3 years), and Okposo at $5M, longer term (5 years), I'd be happy...

[Andy Pred 48 337]

Wings looking at all options including some in KHL ?

[LeftWinger 4,953]

Ya, I hear there this nhl vet named Dastook, or something similar over in the KHL that is pretty good...

Seriously though, please no more players that could run back "home" at the flip of a coin.

[Euro_Twins 4,475]

Ya, I hear there this nhl vet named Dastook, or something similar over in the KHL that is pretty good...

Seriously though, please no more players that could run back "home" at the flip of a coin.

Why is home in quotations? Also datsyuk was here 14 years for us. It's not like he just ran back home on a flip of a coin.

[Andy Pred 48 337]

Anyone looked at GRs roster for next season? 9 forwards signed all over 6' !!

[Dominator2005 558]

KH is looking at Grigorenko...

Now, it seems like Lucic will sign $7M/7Y.

Okposo is looking for same deal.

Nielsen is looking for $6M+ for at least 5 years.

Backes rejected $16.5M/3Y

Ladd is visiting NY Islanders today.

Brouwer ?

Martin ?

Eriksson will end up in Vancouver.

Boedkar ?

Luke Schenn ?

[amato 3,210]

Wings looking at all options including some in KHL ?

I forgot his name but there was some KHL center looking to jump to the NHL.. could be looking into a short term deal there?

[frankgrimes 1,836]

Lol at the thought of Backes for 2 to 3 years the guy is looking to cash in so forget everything under 6x6 at the least.

[Jacksoni 418]

KH is looking at Grigorenko...

Now, it seems like Lucic will sign $7M/7Y.

Okposo is looking for same deal.

Nielsen is looking for $6M+ for at least 5 years.

Backes rejected $16.5M/3Y

Ladd is visiting NY Islanders today.

Brouwer ?

Martin ?

Eriksson will end up in Vancouver.

Boedkar ?

Luke Schenn ?

This is not enough. Need to offer him 6mill X 3 years. Overpay but the short term makes up for it. Maybe even 6.5mill / year.

Edited June 30, 2016 by Jacksoni

[Dominator2005 558]

Lol at the thought of Backes for 2 to 3 years the guy is looking to cash in so forget everything under 6x6 at the least.

I can't see him getting 6 years deal.

Maximum I say throw 4 years deal

Edited June 30, 2016 by Dominator2005

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Few more names to hit the FA list tomorrow: Korpikoski (EDM), Carle (TB), Boll (CBJ), Seidenberg (BOS), Greene (LA), Jackman (NSH).

All being bought out.

[LeftWinger 4,953]

At this rate, I'd do the okposo deal and Backes.

Sounds like a ton of money, but this team can't stand pat.

Add Backes for 3-4 yes at $6M and give Okposo the 7/7. That's only $1M more than you were prepared to offer Stamkos. Make a deal for a defender.

Not unless Holland is in on RNH. But I'd still go with okposo along with RNH.

[Datsyukian-Deke 722]

Ugh I don't want any of these albatross deals. All these guys are going to get signed for way too much money for way too long of a term.

[frankgrimes 1,836]

I can't see him getting 6 years deal.

Maximum I say throw 4 years deal

Simple demand and supply whoever loses out on Ladd will look at Backed although I'd prefer him over Ladd.

4 years ? Well then the aav needs to start with a 8.

The truth is simple no one available helps the Wings when it comes to center or defense and trading for RNH would be the wrong move. I think Stamkos and his camp not showing interest in even hearing an interview about signing here speaks volumes ...changes are needed but nothing available spells Star power. Glad I didn't believe stammer would ever come here otherwise it'd be Suter/Parise again.

[krsmith17 7,191]

I'd like to sign Okposo, but for nothing close to $7M X 7 years... Massive overpayment in my opinion...

[Jesusberg 1,256]

Personally, I feel as if it's kind of a crappy situation now. Obviously, a lot of us Stamkos here in Detroit, but with him off the market, the price tags of everyone else have jumped. I can't see Holland standing pat. He's got cap space to work with, and this team is playing its last season at the Joe, then going into its first season in a new building in 2017-18. Ilitch is going to want to push forward with the most competitive team he can ice.

Unfortunately, I feel like that means overpaying/giving too much term to the guys remaining on the market. I'm not an advocate for tanking, but I'd hate to sign guys like Backes or Ladd to 5-6 year deals. I'd feel a lot better about the situation if they could shed one or two of the "bad" contracts on the team, but that's highly unlikely. Seeing all of these other teams buy out their defensemen (though, they have less term on their deals) is kind of frustrating.

My guess is they go right after Nielsen, one of the "edgy" forwards (Backes, Ladd, Brouwer) and then maybe try for a gritty depth guy, depending on the prices. Meh.

[Andy Pred 48 337]

Tyutin still on Kenny's radar?

If we trade for a Trouba/ Fowler using some of our young D as part of any deal I can see Kenny giving Tyutin a deal to play and coach Marchy along next season.

Edited June 30, 2016 by Andy Pred 48

[Euro_Twins 4,475]

With stamkos getting 8.5X8 how can okposo, backes etc... ask for over $6 million? I don't get it

[Datsyukian-Deke 722]

Personally, I feel as if it's kind of a crappy situation now. Obviously, a lot of us Stamkos here in Detroit, but with him off the market, the price tags of everyone else have jumped. I can't see Holland standing pat. He's got cap space to work with, and this team is playing its last season at the Joe, then going into its first season in a new building in 2017-18. Ilitch is going to want to push forward with the most competitive team he can ice.

Unfortunately, I feel like that means overpaying/giving too much term to the guys remaining on the market. I'm not an advocate for tanking, but I'd hate to sign guys like Backes or Ladd to 5-6 year deals. I'd feel a lot better about the situation if they could shed one or two of the "bad" contracts on the team, but that's highly unlikely. Seeing all of these other teams buy out their defensemen (though, they have less term on their deals) is kind of frustrating.

My guess is they go right after Nielsen, one of the "edgy" forwards (Backes, Ladd, Brouwer) and then maybe try for a gritty depth guy, depending on the prices. Meh.

You can be assured holland will spend at least 7.5 mill in free agency. You can't trade Datsyuk's contract and then sit on the cap space. I'd rather pay a guy like Okposo 8 mill on a 3 year deal then 6-7 mill in a 6-7 year deal. Paying more for shorter term would be the best for us in the long run Edited June 30, 2016 by Datsyukian-Deke

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

With stamkos getting 8.5X8 how can okposo, backes etc... ask for over $6 million? I don't get it

Yeah, you would think the cream of the crop getting less than market value would drop the price not raise it. Unfortunately NHL GM's are a bunch of mopes who sign these awful deals and then get cold feet years later. Kenny having the money to match the craziness other GM's offer players is a terrifying thing right now.