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Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

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Milan Lucic goes for 6 million, Louie Ericcson- 6 million, David Backes- 6 million, and Kyle Okposo goes for 6 million. Got me scratching my head on how Nashville was able to lock up Filip Forsberg in the prime of his career for 6 years 36 million-at 6 million a year.

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3 years, 3.3 million. Another solid signing that Holland was asleep for. Could have added another dimension, but same old same old.

There's no guarantee these players wanted to come to Detroit, what is Holland supposed to do? The only leverage he would have is to overpay and look at the criticism he gets for that.

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There's no guarantee these players wanted to come to Detroit, what is Holland supposed to do? The only leverage he would have is to overpay and look at the criticism he gets for that.

It's embarrassing that people do t think of this. They just assume the players want to come to Detroit.

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I want Nielsen here but he's not THE guy. We still need a star. Hopefully he and Larkin develop good chemistry.

5.5 isn't terrible. Helm is a $4 million player and Nielsen is twice the player.

Helm isn't a $4 mil player, Holland overpaid him.

I can't express what I truly feel about Holland right now without getting banned.

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Helm isn't a $4 mil player, Holland overpaid him.

Which makes it even worse when AA is ready to take over his role and can score more than him for a cheap contract right now. Stupid move. I would have rather offered that money to McGinn and add a different dimension who can actually score.

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Except Backes will be broken in 2 years. Worst contract of the day.

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that is your opinion based on nothing. Backes is a better player now and in the past than nielson is. There is 0 debate about this. 3 years from now we will all be bitching about Nielson still being on the team and costing us 5.25 mil in cap hit. This team is slower and softer today than we were last season.

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There's no guarantee these players wanted to come to Detroit, what is Holland supposed to do? The only leverage he would have is to overpay and look at the criticism he gets for that.

So don't sign anyone. No deal is better than a bad one, Holland used to understand that.

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I think after Stamkos stayed in Tampa Holland panicked.

Oh well a potential bumpy season awaits ......gotta suck to be the coach. It's like being a carpenter asked to build a house with a bunch of screwdrivers and you asked your boss for at least 1 hammer.

Hope Blasch has a LARGE supply of Tums ready for the season.

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Helm isn't a $4 mil player, Holland overpaid him.

I can't express what I truly feel about Holland right now without getting banned.

Just go for it. The way this day is going, there won't be anything worth talking about for a few weeks anyways.

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So don't sign anyone. No deal is better than a bad one, Holland used to understand that.

I'm not talking about the people he did sign, I'm addressing the fact that Holland is accused of "sleeping on a free agent" because they signed somewhere else as if Holland had first dibs on every free agent.

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that is your opinion based on nothing. Backes is a better player now and in the past than nielson is. There is 0 debate about this. 3 years from now we will all be bitching about Nielson still being on the team and costing us 5.25 mil in cap hit. This team is slower and softer today than we were last season.

Okay, I'm going to have to stop you at "slower and softer." The team is basically the same, lacking Datsyuk, who was slowing down and hasn't been above soft for a couple of seasons. I agree on Nielsen after he's 35 being a burden on the team at that cap hit.

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From what I'm reading and talking to Isles fans about they're feeling worse about losing Nielsen than Okposo. They really made a push to keep him.

Quick read: http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2016/7/1/12077848/frans-nielsen-free-agent-contract-red-wings

Comments are worth perusing.

Just because he was good in NY doesn't mean he'll be here, remember Weiss? We don't have the same players. We have players that can't find the back side of the barn let alone the net.

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I'd like the Neilson signing a lot more if it was 4 years for a little more money. It's 4 years from now that concerns me.

The good thing about him is he is durable. So hoping no past injury issues means he can still be effective post 35.

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that is your opinion based on nothing. Backes is a better player now and in the past than nielson is. There is 0 debate about this. 3 years from now we will all be bitching about Nielson still being on the team and costing us 5.25 mil in cap hit. This team is slower and softer today than we were last season.

You will see. People are already saying that contract is going to be the worst signed today. Do yourself a favour and Google it.

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From what I'm reading and talking to Isles fans about they're feeling worse about losing Nielsen than Okposo. They really made a push to keep him.

Quick read: http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2016/7/1/12077848/frans-nielsen-free-agent-contract-red-wings

Comments are worth perusing.

My main concern is he's a playmaker on a team with no finishers now.

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Just because he was good in NY doesn't mean he'll be here, remember Weiss? We don't have the same players. We have players that can't find the back side of the barn let alone the net.

Weiss missed almost 2 years. You cannot compare them.

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I'm not talking about the people he did sign, I'm addressing the fact that Holland is accused of "sleeping on a free agent" because they signed somewhere else as if Holland had first dibs on every free agent.

You're over-emphasising my post. I don't expect every FA to want to come here, but I also feel that Holland is very overrated. He talked a big game about changing the makeup of this team and making us harder to play against, yet so far we are the same exact team as last year, minus Datsyuk. He simply does not follow through. Unless he makes a significant trade or trades, he failed this off-season. He doesn't seem to want to take any risk, ANY risk whatsoever. If we are to trade for a top D-man, he's going to have to give to get, it's just the way it is. Other teams do it.

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