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Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

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it just happens to be that 2 of the rumored higher end d-men that may be available are Michigan boys. I want a D that is young, can grow together and are hard to play against, if it just so happens that 3 of them are Michigan kids, thats great! But if they got Shattenkirk or any other higher end D that would make us better and harder to play against, that's what matters. My choice(s) are Trouba, Fowler, Shattenkirk, in that order, because Shattenkirk is the eldest has a little something to do with it. I don't know of a european d-man that has been rumored to be traded. At least no 25 or under one.

If we landed Fowler and Trouba, along with having DD long term, thats a D core that will grow together and be a very VERY good one too. Add in there Marchenko, and another couple of youngsters, we'd be looking a ton better than two broken swede's. All due respect to when they weren't broken, but now they are, its time to move forward.

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I love when our best players happen to be North American, but I'm not going to target players solely on their Nationality. I personally don't care if a player is Canadian, American, Swedish, Russian, Slovak, or white, black or purple. If they're helping the Wings win games, who gives a s***?...

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I'll sneak in another drumbeat for Hampus Lindholm, the Anaheim unsigned RFA defenseman. I still don't think the Wings fans get it. He would in my opinion trump every available defenseman available, except for Trouba. I'd put them about equal as of now.

I see it as a shameful display of travesty that he isn't signed and our management should be on the Ducks backcourt offering every possible angle of trade.

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I'll sneak in another drumbeat for Hampus Lindholm, the Anaheim unsigned RFA defenseman. I still don't think the Wings fans get it. He would in my opinion trump every available defenseman available, except for Trouba. I'd put them about equal as of now.

I see it as a shameful display of travesty that he isn't signed and our management should be on the Ducks backcourt offering every possible angle of trade.

I don't think anyone would argue that Lindholm isn't the most valuable of the bunch. That's why no one seems to think he's going anywhere. It'd be crazy for Anaheim to trade him. Only way that happens is if a true blue chipper is going back. And we don't have that to trade as Larkin isn't going anywhere. Edited by Son of a Wing

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I'll sneak in another drumbeat for Hampus Lindholm, the Anaheim unsigned RFA defenseman. I still don't think the Wings fans get it. He would in my opinion trump every available defenseman available, except for Trouba. I'd put them about equal as of now.

I see it as a shameful display of travesty that he isn't signed and our management should be on the Ducks backcourt offering every possible angle of trade.

Serious question. In what sense do you think they're equals?

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It's so funny people are naming great young defenseman but then won't give up the asking price. And the ducks would be stupid to move one if not their best defender.

Birth place for sure is important having guys from Michigan helps to form a bond quicker and fans can better identify themselves with the team. I mean how cool would it be to have Larkin or Danny D. to one day captain this team? That's special and something sports in general need to find again more local patriotism

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If two players are equally good and you want to take the local kid, sure. Loading the team with average to middling players, calling a second pair D a star, and hoping that Larkin turns into an elite player just because they're all from Michigan isn't a sound strategy. Also, the idea that they like each other or have chemistry because they're from the same state is flawed. Maybe they played against each other and one threw a cheap shot, or banged another guy's girlfriend, or they hate each other for another reason.

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Everything I'm reading on Twitter is saying Winnipeg wants a haul for Trouba. Even when the asking price inevitably comes down, still don't see Kenny pulling the trigger. Which sucks because Trouba would be awesome in the red and white.

You got to think though, why would they say anything but. You try to get the best deal possible. I would fine with anyone going the other way except Mrazek and Larkin.

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Kenny better be on line one and make that happen bring him home.

DannyD - Trouba as the top pair would be a nice draft

whatever the jets want you pay it

No you don't, we are not talking PK Subban here. He wants Larkin, 1st rounder, and a roster player you laugh in his face.

You have to make the right move, making a trade for the sake of making the trade is just stupid.

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No you don't, we are not talking PK Subban here. He wants Larkin, 1st rounder, and a roster player you laugh in his face.

You have to make the right move, making a trade for the sake of making the trade is just stupid.

I wouldn't pay Larkin, a first (at least not if he isn't lottery save ) and roster player depends on which one.

But people are dreaming if they believe the asking price won't be high he is one of the best young defenders in the game and will only get better. A guy like Chychrun would have been a handy asset now wouldn't it...

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You got to think though, why would they say anything but. You try to get the best deal possible. I would fine with anyone going the other way except Mrazek and Larkin.

I'd add AA and DD to that, but everyone else open game. Including Mantha and ANY of our young D, yes, that means Marchenko too.

I'd start with Mantha, Marchenko, 1st and go from there...if they wanted Nyquist or Tatar, so be it.

You have to get Trouba. He'd get both tge money he wants AND the responsibility he desires. Him and DD? Killer!

Just waiting to see the trade topic to pop up! It's happening! Must happen! Can it? Please Kenny? Maybe? For us?

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You got to think though, why would they say anything but. You try to get the best deal possible. I would fine with anyone going the other way except Mrazek and Larkin.

I'm with ya. But Kenny's track record of player for player trades isn't great, so I'm not holding my breath. But if he managed to pull it off and the price was good? Well I'd change my tune :lol:

I'd add AA and DD to that, but everyone else open game. Including Mantha and ANY of our young D, yes, that means Marchenko too.

I'd start with Mantha, Marchenko, 1st and go from there...if they wanted Nyquist or Tatar, so be it.

You have to get Trouba. He'd get both tge money he wants AND the responsibility he desires. Him and DD? Killer!

Just waiting to see the trade topic to pop up! It's happening! Must happen! Can it? Please Kenny? Maybe? For us?

Nyquist+Marchenko+1st I'd be all over, but would that be enough? I wish he'd just request a trade to Detroit since he's from Michigan :D

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First, Windsor is Canada, so getting him would be getting a Canadian defenseman.

Second, birth place is irrelevant. Skill set is the only thing that matters.

Holland favors not standing his ground in negotiations. He caves in faster than a tunnel through a sand dune. There has been a focus on local boys lately. It's like the idea is if we can't be good, let's load the team up with "hometown" boys. Unfortunately, some fans appear to prefer that to winning.

I understand Windsor is in Canada. Notice how I acknowledged that in my original post... he does however play for the US internationally... likely in part because he couldn't come close to making a Canadian squad and has dual citizenship.

And yes Michigan connections, either being from or playing college in Michigan has been a factor for players signing with the wings.

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Probably doesn't mean much but Interesting though lol

Ken Wiebe @WiebeSunSports 29m29 minutes ago

#NHLJets RFA D Jacob Trouba told me tonight he plans to train and skate in Detroit until the matter is resolved

I know he is from the area, but can't be bad news ha

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I'd add AA and DD to that, but everyone else open game. Including Mantha and ANY of our young D, yes, that means Marchenko too.

I'd start with Mantha, Marchenko, 1st and go from there...if they wanted Nyquist or Tatar, so be it.

You have to get Trouba. He'd get both tge money he wants AND the responsibility he desires. Him and DD? Killer!

Just waiting to see the trade topic to pop up! It's happening! Must happen! Can it? Please Kenny? Maybe? For us?

Manta is exactly the type of player this team needs. A big bodied, canadian power forward.

I'd overpay with Larkin and get a pick/prospect to even it out from WPG in a deal for Trouba. That said I'd rather get Tyson Barrie... but that's unlikely.

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Probably doesn't mean much but Interesting though lol

Ken Wiebe @WiebeSunSports 29m29 minutes ago

#NHLJets RFA D Jacob Trouba told me tonight he plans to train and skate in Detroit until the matter is resolved

I know he is from the area, but can't be bad news ha

Saw this too. Gonna be gutted if he goes to someone in our division. Everything looks so perfect too.... this could be the trade that puts Kenny back in everyone's good graces.

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Manta is exactly the type of player this team needs. A big bodied, canadian power forward.

I'd overpay with Larkin and get a pick/prospect to even it out from WPG in a deal for Trouba. That said I'd rather get Tyson Barrie... but that's unlikely.

If Mantha was better than Larkin, he'd be on the team already. You don't trade larkin...ever. Mantha is a great prospect, but you'd have to give him up for someone like Trouba.

Fowler has more than just michigan connections, he was only born in Windsor, he grew up in Farmington. He's from michigan.

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Manta is exactly the type of player this team needs. A big bodied, canadian power forward.

I'd overpay with Larkin and get a pick/prospect to even it out from WPG in a deal for Trouba. That said I'd rather get Tyson Barrie... but that's unlikely.

Lmao why do you hate Americans

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If Mantha was better than Larkin, he'd be on the team already. You don't trade larkin...ever. Mantha is a great prospect, but you'd have to give him up for someone like Trouba.

Fowler has more than just michigan connections, he was only born in Windsor, he grew up in Farmington. He's from michigan.

Larkin is a better version of players we already have fast, smallish, skilled. Mantha has a skillset our is lacking... size and natural scoring ability.

I would trade Larkin for a clear #1 or soon to be #1 D. But I'd want a sweetener thrown in.

Lmao why do you hate Americans

I don't hate Americans but if I have two players of more or less equal quality I'll take the Canadian every day of the week.

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