Alexander Radulov: Wings on short-list of desired teams

[Larktha7139 6]

I know Loooch is just a dream and it won't happen because he seems to be very set on staying in LA although they need defense not forwards.

I think he would hurt our prospects because the guy isn't known for working hard and showing other players how to get stuff done, on and off the ice. It's not like he's the first one on the ice/gym. Trust me I fully understand why someone would prefer to make money at home and play infront of his friends, family because the NHL has too many strict rules "negotiated".

I don't think Radulov is better than Okposo, Backes at best he's equal to them and btw. I think Backes is even more of a stretch than Looch he would be crazy to leave an annual playoff contender with cup expectations.

Radulov has more talent then backes, Okposo they are probably close. I just think a lot of this hate is just a narrow view point, not trying to come off rude, but I feel like we're watching some video of him snapping at a coach, or 2 stints in the NHL which one was 9 years ago, the other was 9 games??? And because of that we want to pretend that he isn't ultra talented... I think a lot of people are throwing the hot button blinders on. Either way, Detroit management is going to put the work in, if they think he's maturity level is better and offer him a contract I trust them, especially an organization that doesn't stomach that.

[kickazz 5,459]

Well, for one he assaulted his coach during a game.

Was it an accident? I don't remember this. You would think if it was on purpose he would have been suspended from the league.

Maybe you're right.

That said I'd still have him on the team. It was an incident from the past, no different than Bertuzzi. (at least he didn't paralyze the coach)

Edited May 2, 2016 by kickazz

[amato 3,210]

Was it an accident? I don't remember this. You would think if it was on purpose he would have been suspended from the league.

Maybe you're right.

That said I'd still have him on the team. It was an incident from the past, no different than Bertuzzi. (at least he didn't paralyze the coach)

Radulov hitting his coach video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wXQ56Dp0iB0

[kickazz 5,459]

What came out of that situation?

Interesting dilemma for sure. He better have cleaned that aggressiveness over if he wants to play for us. Again, if he has, then take him, just like we took Bertuzzi.

Edited May 2, 2016 by kickazz

[amato 3,210]

Nothing came of the situation but building on his already rough reputation I guess? I can't find any kind of discipline..

[Andy Pred 48 337]

Radulov makes us a better team on the ice period! Radulov off the ice is where the changes need to have happened.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

Radulov will teach the kids to snort lines of coke off strippers' asses. Or the other vets teach them the right way and they all think Radulov is a moron. But you know, they'll automatically follow the new guy instead of the guys who have been around forever.

[jimmyemeryhunter 2,747]

I don't want this, but I want this.

Radulov will teach the kids to snort lines of coke off strippers' asses. Or the other vets teach them the right way and they all think Radulov is a moron. But you know, they'll automatically follow the new guy instead of the guys who have been around forever.

this isn't how the wings work

if anything, his attitude won't have an effect... we're one of a few teams that could handle him, and as long as it's a year or two deal the worst that could happen is we get a 40+point guy who'll teach the kids how not to act. but he just had a kid, he's not the same guy as he was, and maybe it'll convince pavel coming back for his last season is worth it.

[WingsallTheway 383]

I don't want this, but I want this.

this isn't how the wings work

if anything, his attitude won't have an effect... we're one of a few teams that could handle him, and as long as it's a year or two deal the worst that could happen is we get a 40+point guy who'll teach the kids how not to act. but he just had a kid, he's not the same guy as he was, and maybe it'll convince pavel coming back for his last season is worth it.

I'd say we used to be one of the teams that could handle a player with a bad attitude, but nothing leads me to believe that is still the case.

Before we had Babs and our best players were in theyre primes and good leaders who all had a good attitude and worked hard. Now our "best" players are our worst players and they can't lead for squat. The last time it looked like one of our leaders gave a damn was last season. Blashill is also the biggest pushover of all time.

Edited May 3, 2016 by WingsallTheway

[sibiriak 84]

Offer sheet??? He is. UFA, pretty sure it's impossible and even if it was why would you do that and lose, what I think is 3 1st round picks for the next 4 years, when you can sign him less then a month later??? And why would Stamkos sign that when he can choose any team he wants after July 1st.. Including Detroit... Would make no sense anyway you slice it... Pretty sure it's impossible but why take 4 1st's from the team he just signed the next 7 years with...?

Number 1, in not anti Looch but he doesn't want to come here, Rafs does.

People adjust, grow up and change, even over a "short" 4 years, and starting a family" there's an article from SB talking about how the last 2 years with the new coach at CKSA, that he has matured a lot.

I completely understand the hate and the urge to keep the distance but the idea that he would hurt our prospects with the Russian factor???? When those players are American and Canadian is a long stretch....

The final thing that bothers me is the bolting thing, if your Canadian and he NHL is in Russia.... And you can make 4/5 million there or 10 million in your home country in front of your friends and family and where you know the language....??? It's hard to do that at 19/20?? And he came back for 9 games and didn't like it here and had growing to do, he obviously has matured... Is he chasing money probably, does he make us better, yes... People want to give Okposo, backes, and so on more money, yet Rads is better, and will take less???

I am not so sure that he matured. I think that's a storyline his agent is pushing.

He was supposed to report to the Russian national team training camp on 4/27/16. He never showed up, no explanation, no phone call, nothing. Then the reporters ran into him in New York where he apparently was talking to NHL teams. A mature professional would at least warn the national team management that he would be late for camp, if not asked for permission to be late. Not Radulov. He figured that he is such a huge star that the team rules, or rules of simple courtesy, don't apply to him. And he was right, the national team, preparing for the home (held in Moscow/St Petersberg) world hockey championship, took him back with no disciplinary action.

He will pull the same crap when some NHL team signs him, mark my words. I just hope it will not be Detroit.

Edited May 3, 2016 by sibiriak

[sibiriak 84]

Where does the idea that Radulov is looking for a short, relatively cheap contract come from, anyway? His agent would have to be a complete idiot not to ask for both money and term, seeing that teams are lining up to sign his client. At 29, he should look for a 5 years + contract, to secure his future. And if he grows tired of the NHL he can always run away to Russia, wouldn't be the first time.

P.S. Radulov was making over $4 on his contract with CSKA Moscow (at current exchange rates). Anyone who thinks he would accept anything less than $5 mil per year for at least 3 years is deluding himself. He is probably looking for $7 mil per, for 4-5 years, and maybe would accept 6 mil.

P.S.S. Given the low tax rates in Russia, $4 mil per year there is the same (after tax and escrow) as about 6.5 mil here.

Edited May 3, 2016 by sibiriak

[frankgrimes 1,836]

Where does the idea that Radulov is looking for a short, relatively cheap contract come from, anyway? His agent would have to be a complete idiot not to ask for both money and term, seeing that teams are lining up to sign his client. At 29, he should look for a 5 years + contract, to secure his future. And if he grows tired of the NHL he can always run away to Russia, wouldn't be the first time.

Yeah i don't get it too he made a huge amount of money in the KHL he isn't going to accept short term contracts and his cap will have to start with a 6.

and if Radulov doesn't like his role or the offer he'll just go back to the KHL.

[Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453]

Putting aside whether he's worth it or not, has anyone thought about why the Wings are on of the teams on his short list? I think It's awesome, but with all the negativity I hear people say about players not wanting to come here it makes me wonder. I assume It's not the opportunity to play with Datsyuk, seeing as how he's leaving.

[WingsallTheway 383]

Putting aside whether he's worth it or not, has anyone thought about why the Wings are on of the teams on his short list? I think It's awesome, but with all the negativity I hear people say about players not wanting to come here it makes me wonder. I assume It's not the opportunity to play with Datsyuk, seeing as how he's leaving.

He clearly hasn't seen the Red Wings play since he took off from the NHL.

Probably still thinks we're good...jokes on him!!!

[kickazz 5,459]

Putting aside whether he's worth it or not, has anyone thought about why the Wings are on of the teams on his short list? I think It's awesome, but with all the negativity I hear people say about players not wanting to come here it makes me wonder. I assume It's not the opportunity to play with Datsyuk, seeing as how he's leaving.

I believe Fedorov is the GM of the team he plays for added with his being Datsyuk's teammate internationally. I'm sure he's heard good things about the org.

[Rivalred 630]

We may be on the hook for Pav's salary if it cannot be moved, why risk it with his if he bolts for the khl again

[marcaractac 3,963]

We may be on the hook for Pav's salary if it cannot be moved, why risk it with his if he bolts for the khl again

He isn't 35

[Rivalred 630]

He isn't 35

Ok forgot about that

[sibiriak 84]

Putting aside whether he's worth it or not, has anyone thought about why the Wings are on of the teams on his short list? I think It's awesome, but with all the negativity I hear people say about players not wanting to come here it makes me wonder. I assume It's not the opportunity to play with Datsyuk, seeing as how he's leaving.

His short list probably is identical to the list of the teams with enough room under the cap to accommodate the humongous salary he expects to get.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

We may be on the hook for Pav's salary if it cannot be moved, why risk it with his if he bolts for the khl again

He can't if he's under contract unless his NHL team releases him.

[VM1138 1,921]

Putting aside whether he's worth it or not, has anyone thought about why the Wings are on of the teams on his short list? I think It's awesome, but with all the negativity I hear people say about players not wanting to come here it makes me wonder. I assume It's not the opportunity to play with Datsyuk, seeing as how he's leaving.

Because we are obviously desperate, will pay big bucks and he'd be the star, that's why. It's not because we can win its because he won't be overshadowed. Or so he thinks.

[Andy Pred 48 337]

Radulov likes being the go to guy, and if Pav is gone then he'll be just that at Detroit, the aging Z should be playing 3rd line mins next year. If by some magical unreal Kenny moves we get Stamkos on board too the the Wings with a top add on the D wouldnt look too shabby next year.

[frankgrimes 1,836]

He can't if he's under contract unless his NHL team releases him.

Um yes, he can he did so 2 times and will do it for a third time if he doesn't like his icetime or the way the team is dealing with him. Kovalchuck was under contract too and then decided it's time to go home to make even more money.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

Um yes, he can he did so 2 times and will do it for a third time if he doesn't like his icetime or the way the team is dealing with him. Kovalchuck was under contract too and then decided it's time to go home to make even more money.

The KHL and NHL have an agreement to not poach players under contract. IIRC the first time they hadn't agreed yet, and the second time he wasn't under contract

[UpstateNYRedWingsFan 42]

"Elliote Friedman went on Sportsnet 960 in Calgary Friday morning and weighed in on the Alexander Radulov sweepstakes, as well as the Pavel Datsyuk situation
. Chris Nichols over at Todays Slapshot had the full transcription of what was said:


"Well, I think were all expecting it, right? That hes going to end up in Russia. Even Ken Holland this week, I saw one of his quotes was, Would I like it if he came into my office and said, Ive changed my mind and Im going to stay. But do I expect him to say that, no. And Saint Petersburg was always the team.

I do think Detroit will try to trade the contract. I think depending on what theyre willing to do as part of that, they will be able to find a partner. But I would them to try to trade the contract.

I also think that right now, if I had to pick where Radulov was going in the NHL, Id say Detroit is the most likely team. Im not saying for sure 100 percent its going to happen, but it sounds like that theres an attempt being made for him to go there, and to sign him.""

http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2016/5/27/11797382/friedman-red-wings-most-likely-to-land-russian-winger-alexander-radulov

Edited May 28, 2016 by UpstateNYRedWingsFan