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Jim Bedard gone... Ferschweiler demoted

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I think our defense was fine defensively, just not quite involved enough offensively, whether that's making a clean outlet pass, or stepping up in the offensive zone. I do think that is somewhat due to personnel though, which is why upgrading our defense is a much bigger concern than the defense and penalty kill coach in my opinion. As long as we can acquire a top pairing guy and play the guys that can provide offense from the back end (Green, Smith, *trade acquisition*), and continue to develop Sproul, I think we'll be in good shape.

We definitely need to make some changes with the offense, but unlike the defense I think the personnel is fine, it's the coaching that's been the issue, in particular with the power-play. Whatever coach we get to run the offense and power-play needs to be able to utilize his players and systems a hell of a lot better than whatever Firschweiler was doing...

The new pp coach straight up needs to have the balls to not gift Kronwall the spot of running the first unit. He should be on the second unit, if at all at this point in his career.

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The new pp coach straight up needs to have the balls to not gift Kronwall the spot of running the first unit. He should be on the second unit, if at all at this point in his career.

I'm okay with Kronner on the first unit as long as he stops racing up the ice with the puck only to pass back thirty feet and just stand at the blue line waiting for the puck to cross.

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I'm okay with Kronner on the first unit as long as he stops racing up the ice with the puck only to pass back thirty feet and just stand at the blue line waiting for the puck to cross.

We simply have better puck moving dmen than Kronwall. If he is gonna be on the first unit, at least have Green there with him. Smith should also be getting pp time.

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I think that given the amount of roster and management turnover we are expecting right now, its a perfect time to take stock of what we have, identify what kind of team we want to be, and then make player and coaching decisions based on that new identity. I don't think its smart to bring guys in because of their names or previous experience (though I do want some experience, no rookies).

For instance, if we don't envision ourselves as a Randy Carlyle type team, then we would be dumb to hire him. Regardless of his experience. We need to figure our what we have, what we want to be, and then hire the right people to make it so.

Personally, I like Todd Richards. His teams play fast and aggressive and I like that given our lineup. But that's just me. There's also a connection there, he used to work with Tyler Wright in Colombus.

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I wonder why now after 18 years. If there was a problem with his ability to coach I feel like it would have been exposed at some point after two decades and a bunch of goalies coming through. Then again both Howard and Mrazek have been wildly inconsistent the last couple years. However I also can't help but wonder if Mraz and Bedard don't get along. If they have been butting heads there's no way the organization ships Mrazek out in favor of a goaltending coach, and it's interesting that this is happening now, after Mrazek's first full season with the Wings.

Although on the other hand it could be Blashill's call, and after working with him for a year decided he wants someone else.

Holland is finally feeling a little heat on his seat.

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Bedard may not have been fired. He may just have decided to move on to a new challenge. Or maybe he doesn't do well with hybrid goalies like Mrazek. After all, Howard is as boring and safe in playing style as they come.

Bedard's quote made it sound like they weren't interested in renewing his contract

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Definitely a step in the right direction. For an organization that has been adverse to change lately, this is at least acknowledgment by Holland and company that the status quo won't cut it anymore.

I will know we are really heading somewhere if Holland lets all of the pending UFA's walk on July 1.

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I'm surprised at the surprise over Bedard. As I posted after the first round, Howard is horrendous at playing the puck, and a lot of technical flaws emerged in Mrazek's game this season. Rebound control was a problem even when he was winning, and his angles went to hell when he was slumping. Bedard has had six or seven years to improve Howard, and it hasn't happened. And Mrazek seemed to regress. Time for a change, good on whomever (Holland or Blashill) made that call.

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http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2016/05/09/detroit-red-wings-assistant-coaches/84134742/

"Jeff would like to get a couple of assistants a little heavier on experience," Holland said. "With Tony Granato leaving and all the change in the industry, we decided to consider adding two assistants with more experience. Ideally, it will be an offensive guy and a defensive guy."

Experience is on the way... Good!

...and the summer of change begins!

I'd say getting rid of an 18 year goaltending coach with 4 Cups a pretty bold move ton say the least...

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I'm surprised at the surprise over Bedard. As I posted after the first round, Howard is horrendous at playing the puck, and a lot of technical flaws emerged in Mrazek's game this season. Rebound control was a problem even when he was winning, and his angles went to hell when he was slumping. Bedard has had six or seven years to improve Howard, and it hasn't happened. And Mrazek seemed to regress. Time for a change, good on whomever (Holland or Blashill) made that call.

Howard was simply never that great. He exceeded career expectations BY FAR as it is. But he will never be the guy a team wins with. Better suited as a guy to give a rebuilding team some stability in the position. You can't improve a goalie once he has already exceeded his ceiling.

Mrazek just had his first full season at this level. It is not unheard of for a player to slump taking on a starting work load as a kid in the highest level of hockey in the world. Larkin burned out after a while as well. But once Mrazek had some time to rest up, he came back in the playoffs and gave the team a chance to win every night. He didn't regress.

This just comes down to it being time to change things up after 18 years. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Does anyone else get the feeling that we want experienced assistant coaches because Blash is on a short leash? In other words we'd have a replacement coach on staff already.

Nahh not at all. I've had my gripes with Blash, but unless we get more of the same next season his job should be safe. By the sounds of exit interviews combined with today's news of finding a new assistant coaching staff, my issues with Blash are on the back burner for now. And that is him being okay with sticking with that dreadful pp all season, and depending far too much on vets (even s***ty ones like Joke Andersson).

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I was just about to post about him. Is he still in Anaheim? Or was we let go when BB was let go?

He seems to be the frontrunner for head coaching duties in Anaheim yeah. I'm hoping they go with someone else because I think he'd be a perfect fit with Blash.

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Another reason I like Todd Richards is because young centers have tended to do well in his offensive scheme. None of Johansen, Jenner, or Dubinsky are superstars, but they've performed well under his offense, and I'd love to see what he could do with Larkin and AA. Then get a defensive coach that really understands puck possession and transition and we are set. Don't really know who I like for a defensive coach though.

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Howard was simply never that great. He exceeded career expectations BY FAR as it is. But he will never be the guy a team wins with. Better suited as a guy to give a rebuilding team some stability in the position. You can't improve a goalie once he has already exceeded his ceiling.

Mrazek just had his first full season at this level. It is not unheard of for a player to slump taking on a starting work load as a kid in the highest level of hockey in the world. Larkin burned out after a while as well. But once Mrazek had some time to rest up, he came back in the playoffs and gave the team a chance to win every night. He didn't regress.

This just comes down to it being time to change things up after 18 years. Nothing more, nothing less.

Whose expectations? He was projected to be an avetage starter. He's an average starter.

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Whose expectations? He was projected to be an avetage starter. He's an average starter.

He was projected to be an average starter, then at one point was being refereed to as a top 6 goalie in the NHL. I remember an ESPN.com article in particular where they ranked him as #6 in the league. That would 100% be under "exceeding expectations".

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Whose expectations? He was projected to be an avetage starter. He's an average starter.

He was an all star, he at times was in the Vezina conversation, he was named to team USA in the olympics.

Hell, when he first started in the NHL debate there was even debate whether he even belonged there. Remember his debut? It was concerning. Just being an average goalie was him exceeding expectations. On top of that he has had his moments where he was among the best. But that's what separates him from the elite: Consistency. And he will never become elite, as he never has nor does he currently have the tools to do so. Mrazek, on the other hand, does.

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He was an all star, he at times was in the Vezina conversation, he was named to team USA in the olympics.

Hell, when he first started in the NHL debate there was even debate whether he even belonged there. Remember his debut? It was concerning. Just being an average goalie was him exceeding expectations. On top of that he has had his moments where he was among the best. But that's what separates him from the elite: Consistency. And he will never become elite, as he never has nor does he currently have the tools to do so. Mrazek, on the other hand, does.

The first time I have saw Howard play was a preseason game against TB, it was the season after the lockout and he let in his first shot on net from I believe center ice lol.

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