krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) I don't understand the argument here... Are you seriously saying that Kane is a better hockey player than Crosby, based on this one season? Like was mentioned, Crosby had one of the slowest starts of his career and still finished over a point per game. Your going to use career points per game as one of your arguments? Kane has 1.01 pts/g in the regular season and 0.98 pts/g in the playoffs. Crosby has 1.33 pts/g in the regular season and 1.14 pts/g in the playoffs. Crosby is also a much better all around player. The only edge I would give Kane over Crosby in their individual games is stick handling, everything else Crosby is far superior. Sure Kane has three Cups to Crosby's one, but that's also a team stat, and Crosby very well could add another in a few weeks. Crosby also has two Olympic gold medals to Kane's one silver. But if you want to talk individual awards, it's not even close. Kane has won the Calder in 2008, Conn Smythe in 2013 and Art Ross this season. Crosby was the runner up to Ovechkin for the Calder in 2006, and has won Rocket Richard in 2010, Art Ross in 2007 / 2014, Lester B. Pearson in 2007 / 2013 / 2014, Hart in 2007 / 2014, Mark Messier in 2007 / 2010, among many other awards and accolades. Crosby is regarded as THE best player in the world by most, Kane is top 5-10 by most... He would be outside of my top 5, possibly even 10, but that's my personal opinion... Edited May 22, 2016 by krsmith17 1 kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,959 Report post Posted May 22, 2016 Can't believe we are talking up Crosby in our forums! But, you can't argue how good he is. Another thing that separates him from Kane...off ice behavior. I don't recall ever hearing about Crosby assaulting anyone, or being accused of rape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted May 22, 2016 You can argue how good he is, people do all the time. The problem is it's always a flawed argument fueled by blind hate. "Sidney Criesby sucks"... Get it? Female name making him "inferior" and he "cries" all the time... herpa derp... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) McCarty never had similar production to Pav unlike Kane and Crosby I get its only one year but Kane is pretty much ppg his whole careerCrosby isn't a PPG player. He's far ABOVE a PPG player.Look at his career numbers. Seriously don't tell me you think having more Stanley cups means someone is a better player. Edited May 22, 2016 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted May 22, 2016 I love Crosby as a player but he still needs to grow up emotionally. He's getting there albeit slowly. 1 kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 Not sure why the Pens are pulling the plug on Murray after one bad game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 How is a team with Valterri Filppula as their #1 center doing this well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 I honestly think PIT was looking for an excuse to get Fleury in there and game 4 was a perfect scenario...down big, get him some in game experience without risking much of anything. HBK at game 5 to see the HBK line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 I honestly think PIT was looking for an excuse to get Fleury in there and game 4 was a perfect scenario...down big, get him some in game experience without risking much of anything. HBK at game 5 to see the HBK line. Would be awesome if he superkicks Crosby after the game and takes off his jersey to reveal a Lightning jersey underneath. 2 kliq and kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicagooverrated 65 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 Series is over if tampon bay scores Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicagooverrated 65 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 Sigh, 18 minutes for the lightning to regroup and score again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 Fleury had no business being in net tonight. Bad coaching taking out a guy that brought them there. When was the last time Fleury had a good playoff? 2009? 1 DRW Dominance reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicagooverrated 65 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 Unless the pens get a lucky bounce this one is ova Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 Fleury had no business being in net tonight. Bad coaching taking out a guy that brought them there. When was the last time Fleury had a good playoff? 2009? That was unfortunately probably his only good one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicagooverrated 65 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 That was unfortunately probably his only good one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 I don't like Tampa, but you have to give Yzerman and Cooper credit. No Stamkos. No Bishop. Filppula centering the top line. And they're one game away from the Finals. 3 PavelValerievichDatsyuk, chicagooverrated and NerveDamage reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicagooverrated 65 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 I don't like Tampa, but you have to give Yzerman and Cooper credit. No Stamkos. No Bishop. Filppula centering the top line. And they're one game away from the Finals. and in the grand scheme of things, the golden boy isn't in the scf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NerveDamage 4,176 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 Tampa tied the game after a 2 goal deficit, went down by one, tied it again, and won it in OT in Pittsburgh, without Stamkos and Bishop? They better close the deal in game 6 and not let the series go back to Pittsburgh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shocky2002 36 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 I don't like Tampa, but you have to give Yzerman and Cooper credit. No Stamkos. No Bishop. Filppula centering the top line. And they're one game away from the Finals. meh, only because they drew 2 s***ty teams and got lucky against pittsburgh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) I don't like Tampa, but you have to give Yzerman and Cooper credit. No Stamkos. No Bishop. Filppula centering the top line. And they're one game away from the Finals. You're ignoring the rest of their roster. Johnson, Hedman, Garrison, Kucherov, Strallman, Drouin, Killorn These players went to the finals last year and have the experience under their belt. Edited May 23, 2016 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) Nothing will please me more these playoffs than Steve Yzerman getting his 4th Stanley cup. Go Bolts go! Edited May 23, 2016 by kickazz 2 DRW Dominance and NerveDamage reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 Nothing will please me more these playoffs than Steve Yzerman getting his 4th Stanley cup. Go Bolts go! Aren't you getting a little head of yourself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) Nothing will please me more these playoffs than Steve Yzerman getting his 4th Stanley cup. Go Bolts go! And skating the Cup in front of those idiot Blues fans. Edited May 23, 2016 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) And skating the Cup in front of those idiot Blues fans. Wouldnt that be something? "Yzerman beats the Blues... AGAIN." Edited May 23, 2016 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites