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Frans Nielson signs 6 year $5.25m AAV contract with Detroit

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1 hour ago, Buppy said:

Wait, I thought we were sick of having young skill guys getting scratched and underused. I'm confused.

Do other team's fans obsess this much over the least important parts of the roster? I guess it makes some sense to complain about the worst players on the team, but I would think we could be rational enough to understand how negligible an impact those moves will have.

Bringing back Miller or Ott or someone similar, or filling that spot with a kid is completely irrelevant. It's not going to help or hurt anything. Put a better player in an insignificant role, and you're just wasting potential. Bertuzzi playing 50 games (and scratched for 30) as our 13th forward, or playing 50 in GR plus 20 in Det as an injury call-up isn't going to affect his development. 

If you're going to be scratching Sheahan and relegating Helm and Abby to the 4th line, when all of them have proven they can contribute much more significantly, you'd be better off doing whatever you can to just get rid of them and using the cap space on a FA that might actually do something. Or better yet if you think Svech can be a valuable top-9 player, you use one of the guys above him to try to help the defense. Scratching a kid with a history of solid 3rd-line level production is just inefficient. Either way, whether we plug the bottom of the roster with a kid or a cheap vet (that we might be able to flip for late pick) is just about the last thing we should be worried about.

yup yup yup yup yup

I don't understand what the concern is with signing 800K players like Miller or Ott. They're semi-useful, and you only use em when you need em. Other than that they don't hurt you at all. If Martin Frk outplays them for a roster spot, sweet waive the 800K vet. It's not a big deal either way, just an extra option. The organization seems committed to going more towards youth movement anyway.

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On 4/21/2017 at 1:04 PM, Buppy said:

Wait, I thought we were sick of having young skill guys getting scratched and underused. I'm confused.

Do other team's fans obsess this much over the least important parts of the roster? I guess it makes some sense to complain about the worst players on the team, but I would think we could be rational enough to understand how negligible an impact those moves will have.

Bringing back Miller or Ott or someone similar, or filling that spot with a kid is completely irrelevant. It's not going to help or hurt anything. Put a better player in an insignificant role, and you're just wasting potential. Bertuzzi playing 50 games (and scratched for 30) as our 13th forward, or playing 50 in GR plus 20 in Det as an injury call-up isn't going to affect his development. 

If you're going to be scratching Sheahan and relegating Helm and Abby to the 4th line, when all of them have proven they can contribute much more significantly, you'd be better off doing whatever you can to just get rid of them and using the cap space on a FA that might actually do something. Or better yet if you think Svech can be a valuable top-9 player, you use one of the guys above him to try to help the defense. Scratching a kid with a history of solid 3rd-line level production is just inefficient. Either way, whether we plug the bottom of the roster with a kid or a cheap vet (that we might be able to flip for late pick) is just about the last thing we should be worried about.

So you're in favor of bringing someone like Miller or Ott back or no?  I'm confused.  Because if something doesn't matter you can take two approaches.  1:  Do it anyway, because it doesn't hurt anything.  2:  Don't do it because there's no utility in doing so? 

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1 hour ago, kipwinger said:

So you're in favor of bringing someone like Miller or Ott back or no?  I'm confused.  Because if something doesn't matter you can take two approaches.  1:  Do it anyway, because it doesn't hurt anything.  2:  Don't do it because there's no utility in doing so? 

Indifferent.

Though if our goal is to focus on the future, I think we would be better served by trading players rather than plugging kids into spots at the bottom and making them fight each other.

But if we're not considering trades, then I don't really care. There are pros and cons either way. 

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