krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 Frk claimed by Carolina. Pulkkinen to be claimed tomorrow. All to keep Miller and Ott on the roster... Great f***ing job Holland you a** hat... I swear, if Sproul gets waived, I will officially be on the #fireholland band wagon... 2 LeftWinger and MrazekFanBoy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheXym 2,606 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 I was disappointed Frk was claimed, and I think Pulkkinen will be as well. Poor asset management by Holland. I think other GMs know he has a logjam and with all the historical success the Wings have had, they are playing hardball to force more assets to be lost to waivers. Color me optimistic, but I am still hoping to see him pull off a trade to land Trouba or Fowler (maybe a three way). Hoping, but sadly, not expecting. I almost wouldn't be surprised if bringing back Adam Almqvist was his answer to the defensive issues, only to put him on waivers the next day. 4 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Frk claimed by Carolina. Pulkkinen to be claimed tomorrow. All to keep Miller and Ott on the roster... Great f***ing job Holland you a** hat... I swear, if Sproul gets waived, I will officially be on the #fireholland band wagon... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NitzGuy 38 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 6 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Frk claimed by Carolina. Pulkkinen to be claimed tomorrow. All to keep Miller and Ott on the roster... Great f***ing job Holland you a** hat... I swear, if Sproul gets waived, I will officially be on the #fireholland band wagon... Have you been holding that one in all day? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 Terrible assets management. I was actually surprised to see Frk was waived, I thought he had a very good camp. Not at all surprised he was claimed, apparently 3+ teams put in a claim and Carolina was the lucky team to get him. I was shocked Pulkkinen was waived and there's no chance he doesn't get claimed. I'm actually more upset that Frk was claimed than I will be when Pulkkinen gets claimed tomorrow... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) Pulkinnen on waivers. I saw this day coming for 2 years now. He was not good enough for the NHL. But possibility of losing him for nothing is... annoying. On the bright side AA and Mantha still have a shot now that Pulk is waived. Edited October 11, 2016 by kickazz 2 e_prime and LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,914 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 I cannot even express how livid I am to lose Frk. Why does Holland even still have a job? The kid was fast, hard shot, right handed, seemed to be able to translate his game to the nhl fairly well. Pulkkinen will be claimed as well. Holland is a jackass. Blashill says AA and Mantha didn't work hard enough. Wtf is going on here? I am almost to the point of not watching until Holland is fired or resigns. Very close. I normally have opposite things to say to Krsmith, but damn, if we had to keep Helm, we could've dumped two others, or at least one to keep Frk. I like Miller, but Frk was part of our future... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,914 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 In other news, Winnipeg waived Pavelec. Hmmmm, maybe a nice Jimmy Howard deal to them in a package? One could wish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,914 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 ...also, I agree, now that we've lost Frk and more than likely Pulk, in XO or Sproul is waived, I am officially out. Peace. Deuces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 Well I hope we keep AA. He's proven he can play with the big boys. 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 Omg mannnnnn , had family over for the long weekend and found out today frk was put on waivers and claimed and now pulkinnen WTFFF ive always defended Ken holland but I swear to god man I'm done , wtf is wrong with this man giving away prospects we develop for years , never giving them chances and losing them on waivers, you telling me we couldn't get a late round pick? That's bulls*** f*** wouldnt surprise me if a team like Chicago claims him and he goes and gets 20 goals although I think he'll be claimed lo before Chicago wow I can't comprehend this stupidity, f*** Ken holland man, starting to think the only reason he even has a career as a gm is thanks to the lidstrom's,yzerman,fedorov,shanahan etc... Swear f*** if we lose ouellet or sproul now on waivers for nothing when defense is our biggest weakness lets all pray ericsson breaks his leg 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 Maybe a trade....? 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) Lines during practice today: Tomas Tatar-Frans Nielsen-Henrik Zetterberg Justin Abdelkader-Dylan Larkin-Riley Sheahan Gustav Nyquist-Darren Helm-Thomas Vanek Steve Ott-Luke Glendening-Drew Miller Danny DeKeyser-Alexey Marchenko Brendan Smith-Mike Green Jonathan Ericsson-Xavier Ouellet Edited October 11, 2016 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 1 minute ago, kickazz said: Lines during practice today: Tomas Tatar-Frans Nielsen-Henrik Zetterberg Justin Abdelkader-Dylan Larkin-Riley Sheahan Gustav Nyquist-Darren Helm-Thomas Vanek Steve Ott-Luke Glendening-Drew Miller Danny DeKeyser-Alexey Marchenko Brendan Smith-Mike Green Jonathan Ericsson-Xavier Ouellet That defense scares me and not in a good way. 1 Internet.Unknown reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2016/10/10/13222076/article http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2016/10/10/13230964/foundation-and-red-wings-ken-holland-isaac-asimov Ken Holland needs to go. 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheXym 2,606 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 Good links, Dabura. I had read the ELC article earlier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,914 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 The only reason Holland has any creedance as a gm is thanks to Jimmy D and Scotty. Holland has yet to build a team that does much more than get swept out of the 1st round. 08 was still a lot of Scott's players. 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings3:16 318 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 All these years he kept saying we gotta "build through the draft!", then he has a weekend like this. Unbelievable. I hope Frk scores 20+ goals 3 roboturner, krsmith17 and nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 47 minutes ago, TheXym said: Good links, Dabura. I had read the ELC article earlier. Yup, they're both good reads...that make me want to scream into a pillow. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MileHighWingsGuy 178 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 AA and Mantha aren't good enough...they tried talking themselves outta Larkin last year. These guys are idiots. 2 nyqvististhefuture and roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 AA and Mantha weren't fighting Ott and Miller for jobs. If Trashill wanted to, he could easily keep them both, use Miller and Ott as reserves (or waive one or both) and use Sheahan-Helm-Glendening as the checking line. At least then he'd have a line more capable of playing the role he seems to want that line to play. Then he could either mix the kids in or use Mantha and AA with one of Abdelkader, Vanek, Tatar, or Nyquist. 6 TheXym, roboturner, BadgerBob and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 Outraged! At this point everyone's mad and the kind of career Pulkinnen and Frk have in the future is irrelevant to them. Look at Nestrasil and Ferraro. I think the common problem a lot of posters have is that they think our prospects are a lot better than they are. Holland has yet to turn down a reasonable deal, lose anybody of actual value or make a bad trade that hurts the future so this cap crunch doesn't bother me annnyways I hope they decide to keep Mantha with the team 1 Ally reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 When it comes to Pulkinnen, it will be interesting what happens tomorrow. At the end of the day, its lose-lose. If he's claimed, we lose. If nobody puts a claim in for him, then it just proves that he has zero trade value. If he cant play in the NHL AND he has no trade value, we lose. I dont know much about Frk. Never fun to lose someone, but if he's a below average bottom 6 guy, I cant say I care too much. If he ends up being a top 6 guy, then this is awful asset management, especially since it was to keep Miller and Ott. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 8 minutes ago, kliq said: When it comes to Pulkinnen, it will be interesting what happens tomorrow. At the end of the day, its lose-lose. If he's claimed, we lose. If nobody puts a claim in for him, then it just proves that he has zero trade value. If he cant play in the NHL AND he has no trade value, we lose. I dont know much about Frk. Never fun to lose someone, but if he's a below average bottom 6 guy, I cant say I care too much. If he ends up being a top 6 guy, then this is awful asset management, especially since it was to keep Miller and Ott. It was to keep Helm from playing on the 4th line where he belongs, not to keep Miller and Ott. It was also because he's unlikely to be an NHL player for very long. 3 kliq, amato and Legendary D In 03 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 9 minutes ago, DickieDunn said: It was to keep Helm from playing on the 4th line where he belongs, not to keep Miller and Ott. It was also because he's unlikely to be an NHL player for very long. How do you figure? Whether or not they kept Frk, Helm is playing third line. If they didn't sign one of Ott or Miller, Frk would have the spot they have now. That spot being 4th line winger/reserve player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 2 hours ago, MileHighWingsGuy said: AA and Mantha aren't good enough...they tried talking themselves outta Larkin last year. These guys are idiots. They tried the same bulls*** with the jarnkrok trade , he might not be a 70 point guy but for years he was highly touted as a top redwings prospect up until the day we basically gave him away for a washed ufa to be seems it's the way we do things in Detroit now apparenly , no rookie is that good were lucky Howard had a complete melt down or mrazek would still be the official backup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites