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2 hours ago, marcaractac said:

For the Ducks it basically comes down to how willing they are to lose a big dman for nothing at the expansion draft. I feel they move Fowler by the trade deadline regardless of what they say now. Having said that, I'm not convinced Fowler is the guy Detroit should go for. 

With the "one last shot" comments from Anaheim, I'd guess they wouldn't consider trading him unless they think it will make them better. Then, if they haven't moved anyone, they'll look for something at the end of the season.

The silver lining is that with their cap issue solved for now, and the Ducks again having some scoring issues, maybe it puts Nyquist back in play as a trade asset. 

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3 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

Ya, they have to protect Bieska, unless they can trade him, and then they have to choose who else. Lindholm and Vatanen seem the most logical.

Can Bieska waive his NMC for the draft? I dont see why he wouldn't, Very doubtful Vegas would take him, and this way Anaheim can protect their big 3 therefore making his team better.

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11 minutes ago, krsmith17 said:

I don't think Nyquist alone would be enough to get Fowler. I'd consider a one for one deal, but I wouldn't add anything of significance with it... I'd personally rather trade Tatar but I know I'm in the minority there...

I would also rather trade Tatar. People use the argument of the cap, but by next season Tats will be making the same or more. I think people get down on Gus because he was so good back in 2014, that 2015 and 2016 just put a bad taste in their mouth. Personally I am a huge fan of Nyquist and want to see him here for the duration of his contract unless its a deal that is too good to pass up (ie. a trade for Trouba).

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1 hour ago, krsmith17 said:

I don't think Nyquist alone would be enough to get Fowler. I'd consider a one for one deal, but I wouldn't add anything of significance with it... I'd personally rather trade Tatar but I know I'm in the minority there...

No, he wouldn't be enough, and I wouldn't add much either, but I don't think we would have to. If the Ducks go looking for a scoring winger, I don't think they could find much better than Nyquist available.

Regarding Nyquist .vs Tatar; I see them as basically equal. The only reason I specify Nyquist is because the cap works without requiring any extra moves.

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On the Winnipeg Jets and Jacob Trouba …

Chris Nichols of Today’s Slaphot: Darren Dreger on TSN 1040 on if he thinks injuries to Tyler Myers and Mark Stuart and the Jets 4-5-0 start could speed up Jacob Trouba trade talk.

“I don’t,” said Dreger. “I guess I take that lead from the time I spent around the (Jets’) brass at the Heritage Classic last weekend. You’re right, injury can change a lot of things. I suppose it’s possible that there’s a team that finally steps up with the right package or the right young defenseman, but I don’t get the sense that anyone has done that to this point.”

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Elliotte Friedman of Sportsnet: Teams have contacted the Boston Bruins about forward Ryan Spooner. Spooner will be a restricted free agent at the end of the season and will be looking to make more than the $1 million he’s getting this year. Friedman can only see the Bruins wanting to move Spooner is if they get a good, young defenseman back in a deal.

Reports denied that Trouba could be considering a short-term bridge contract with the Jets.

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On the Boston Bruins and Jacob Trouba …

Joe Haggerty of CSNNE: Ryan Spooner’s name has been involved in trade talk according to Sportsnet. Spooner has struggled this season, recording only a goal and assist in seven games.

The Bruins are going to have move someone like Spooner if they want to acquire a top-four defenseman.

Nick Kypreos reported that the Jets were reportedly asking for Spooner, Brandon Carlo and a draft pick for Jacob Trouba.

Kypreos added that, that package would be too much for the Bruins.

I know, I know, it's Kypreos. So, take it for what it is:  Rumor... but...

Spooner (a second/third line winger,) Carlo (their top prospect/rookie defenseman whose played exactly 9 NHL games) and a draft pick... I can see how Boston isn't going to make that trade with their depth problems, but  how do we not have something along those lines or better to offer Winnipeg?

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12 minutes ago, e_prime said:

I know, I know, it's Kypreos. So, take it for what it is:  Rumor... but...

Spooner (a second/third line winger,) Carlo (their top prospect/rookie defenseman whose played exactly 9 NHL games) and a draft pick... I can see how Boston isn't going to make that trade with their depth problems, but  how do we not have something along those lines or better to offer Winnipeg?

Depends what draft pick they want. Nyquist/Tatar + Sproul/Ouellet seems fairly close, but who knows if the Jets would agree. If they want a high pick added with that, it's too much. Especially if they only wanted Tatar, which would mean we'd have to make another deal to clear cap room.

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We definitely don't have anything comparable to Carlo, but you'd think Tatar would at least be somewhat comparable to Spooner. I'd do Tatar, Ouellet and a high pick without hesitation, which is why that probably isn't enough to get it done...

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6 minutes ago, krsmith17 said:

We definitely don't have anything comparable to Carlo, but you'd think Tatar would at least be somewhat comparable to Spooner. I'd do Tatar, Ouellet and a high pick without hesitation, which is why that probably isn't enough to get it done...

I don't want to shift this thread to a discussion on Boston's prospects, but is Carlo that good?

...and I agree Buppy, Tatar/Nyquist + XO/Sproul + pick would seem to be enough.

...my guess is that salary is the biggest sticking point for the Wings being able to make a real move on Trouba.

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I don't think it's that Carlo is that good, I just don't really think we have anything comparable. The closest we would have in my opinion is Sproul, and when you look at Carlo being 19 with 2 points (1 goal, 1 assist) in 9 games and Sproul being 23 with 2 points (2 assists) in 6 games, chances are you'd value the guy 4 years younger a little more.

Maybe such a package would get it done, but if so, why hasn't it been done yet? 

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18 hours ago, krsmith17 said:

Maybe such a package would get it done, but if so, why hasn't it been done yet? 

Probably because Chevy is eyeing the bigger prizes while Kenny is trying to unload a $4 million dollar contract the other way.

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This whole Trouba thing really seems to come down a.) Chevy getting his asking price or b.) no trade at all :(

Gagne is on LTIR so the Ducks have enough space to keep their roster together till he comes back.



The reality is simple: help needs to arrive via a very good draft pick position

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41 minutes ago, frankgrimes said:

This whole Trouba thing really seems to come down a.) Chevy getting his asking price or b.) no trade at all :(

Gagne is on LTIR so the Ducks have enough space to keep their roster together till he comes back.

 


The reality is simple: help needs to arrive via a very good draft pick position

The Ducks seem to be "all in" for this season, so Fowler getting traded isn't going to happen unless there's a major colapse on their part.  Their cap is set because it's more like an IF than WHEN for Gag... errr Despres. (thanks kr ;))

We need help through a trade ...AND drafting... and icing the right pairings... and coaching.

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EDIT: wrong player

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The Ducks seem to be "all in" for this season, so Fowler getting traded isn't going to happen unless there's a major colapse on their part.  Their cap is set because it's more like an IF than WHEN for Gag... errr Despres. (thanks kr )
We need help through a trade ...AND drafting... and icing the right pairings... and coaching.


oh well my Bad then but point stands both aren't available, for prices the Wings can afford to pay

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