Jeff Blashill

[Dabura 12,206]

25 minutes ago, brett said:

i think im done with this team. management ruined a nice team. blashill isnt developing s***. hes losing. holland just tosses away players that actually help to help other teams. bust in drafting. sign s*** players to long term big money no trade clause contracts. if i were larkin id want out

7 minutes ago, kylee said:

What has Blashill done to earn an EXTENSION other than coaching a bottom 5 team and halting progress of basically every young or prime player on our team except Larkin?

Do we have proof that Blashill has "halted the progress of basically every young or prime player on our team except Larkin"? (Why doesn't Blashill get credit for Larkin becoming a legit 1C?)

Seems to me the young talent is developing well and slowly taking over. Seems to me Blashill has been able to get a rebuilding team that's devoid of top-tier talent to a point where they can play any team close, often losing by one measly goal.

I think that's pretty impressive.

I think Blashill's unfairly maligned. I think you have to look at what he's working with and recognize what he's being asked to do. When you view things in context, I think it's hard to make a really strong case for moving on from him. The most damning argument against him is probably "Joel Quenneville could be available." But Quenneville won his Cups with Cup-worthy teams. Who's Blashill's Kane? Who's Blashill's Keith?

[HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878]

Bold statement by a GM hopefully not here. 

[gcom007 1,465]

Just now, Dabura said:

Do we have proof that Blashill has "halted the progress of basically every young or prime player on our team except Larkin"? (Why doesn't Blashill get credit for Larkin becoming a legit 1C?)

Seems to me the young talent is developing well and slowly taking over. Seems to me Blashill has been able to get a rebuilding team that's devoid of top-tier talent to a point where they can play any team close, often losing by one measly goal.

I think that's pretty impressive.

I think Blashill's unfairly maligned. I think you have to look at what he's working with and recognize what he's being asked to do. When you view things in context, I think it's hard to make a really strong case for moving on from him. The most damning argument against him is probably "Joel Quenneville could be available." But Quenneville won his Cups with Cup-worthy teams. Who's Blashill's Kane? Who's Blashill's Keith?

I think Blashill’s decision making and overall coaching of an NHL team has improved somewhat this year, as evidenced by what you said. And not Quenneville nor anyone else is going to come in here and really do that much better with this team of players. It was a rough start, and I’m not sure he was the best fit for a transitioning team, but no one can deny that he was dealt a rough hand of players. But in turn the players were dealt a rough hand with a rookie coach cutting his teeth in a league that’s never been more competitive. I’m not surprised they’re thinking of extending him. I’m not wildly upset either at this point. If we can sign an impact player or two in UFA (longshot as it may be...) and land an impact guy in the draft this year and Blashill struggles the next couple years, he’ll obviously be gone. I’m okay waiting for that. Or perhaps he’ll find success. I’m more and more open-minded to the idea. 

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

Blashill isn't a playoff coach like Babcock. He isn't a regular season coach like Bruce Boudreau. He's a developmental coach. His wins and losses are irrelevant. What matters is how the kids progress. Although I would like to see more out of Mantha. I think he did a great job with Bert, Larkin, AA, and Jensen. I see Cholowski and Hronek getting better. Jury's still out on Moose, tho.

[kylee 727]

3 hours ago, Dabura said:

 

Seems to me the young talent is developing well and slowly taking over. Seems to me Blashill has been able to get a rebuilding team that's devoid of top-tier talent to a point where they can play any team close, often losing by one measly goal.

 

That is the Detroit Lions mentality to losing. We only lost by a field goal. Look st our goal differential - it’s horrendous. Some players rise above whoever is coaching them as with Larkin. AA is producing despite being shackled on the 3rd line. Blashill puts Luke Glendening out in the offensive zone face off in OT, Blashill puts DK out in OT and he gets burned. These are small samples of what I feel is the decision making of a bad coach. Whether or not he’s getting the most out of developing players is hard to quantify as opposed to other things, but here’s what I know - the Detroit Red Wings are a bottom 5 hockey club that SHOULD NOT stand pat with the people, players and coaches that either took us here or keep us here as with Holland and Blashill. We need to gut the franchise from the inside out. 

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

19 minutes ago, kylee said:

That is the Detroit Lions mentality to losing. We only lost by a field goal. Look st our goal differential - it’s horrendous. Some players rise above whoever is coaching them as with Larkin. AA is producing despite being shackled on the 3rd line. Blashill puts Luke Glendening out in the offensive zone face off in OT, Blashill puts DK out in OT and he gets burned. These are small samples of what I feel is the decision making of a bad coach. Whether or not he’s getting the most out of developing players is hard to quantify as opposed to other things, but here’s what I know - the Detroit Red Wings are a bottom 5 hockey club that SHOULD NOT stand pat with the people, players and coaches that either took us here or keep us here as with Holland and Blashill. We need to gut the franchise from the inside out. 

Devellano and Holland first.  Agreed.  

[MileHighWingsGuy 178]

A lot of fans seem to be embracing the losing culture and are complacent with mediocrity. Hoping Yzerman can reverse that.

[Dabura 12,206]

8 hours ago, kylee said:

That is the Detroit Lions mentality to losing.

No, it's not. The Wings have an actual plan. The Wings are adding pieces. The Wings should be better within the next few years. Right now we don't have the talent to contend, so the best we can realistically hope for is good showings from the young talent every night and competitive games. We're getting both under Blashill this season.

8 hours ago, kylee said:

Look st our goal differential - it’s horrendous.

1. Look at our roster -- it's one of the weakest rosters in the league. (Because we're a rebuilding team.)
2. Look at how many games we lose narrowly and add those up. There's your bad goal differential. It's not like we're getting blown out every night.

8 hours ago, kylee said:

Some players rise above whoever is coaching them as with Larkin.

That's awfully convenient for your argument. "Blashill is ruining the kids. Larkin doesn't count." Cool.

8 hours ago, kylee said:

AA is producing despite being shackled on the 3rd line.

Yeah? And?

8 hours ago, kylee said:

Blashill puts Luke Glendening out in the offensive zone face off in OT,

Because Glendening is a faceoff specialist.

Is it a stupid move? Maybe, maybe not. But it's not like there wasn't any logic behind it and it's not like Blashill's the only coach in the league who would've done it.

8 hours ago, kylee said:

Blashill puts DK out in OT and he gets burned.

Blashill puts DK out in OT against the Leafs and he scores the OT winner. Anecdotes are fun!

8 hours ago, kylee said:

These are small samples of what I feel is the decision making of a bad coach.

I don't know how closely y'all follow other teams, but I can tell you that every NHL fan base has the same complaints about every NHL head coach. I think it says more about the fans than it does about the coaches. Fans want their teams to win every game and play all the young kids all the time. But reality doesn't work that way.

8 hours ago, kylee said:

the Detroit Red Wings are a bottom 5 hockey club that SHOULD NOT stand pat with the people, players and coaches that either took us here or keep us here as with Holland and Blashill. We need to gut the franchise from the inside out. 

Fair enough. But, personally, you haven't convinced me. Not even close.

Edited February 26, 2019 by Dabura

[F.Michael 4,590]

10 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

Blashill isn't a playoff coach like Babcock. He isn't a regular season coach like Bruce Boudreau. He's a developmental coach. His wins and losses are irrelevant. What matters is how the kids progress. Although I would like to see more out of Mantha. I think he did a great job with Bert, Larkin, AA, and Jensen. I see Cholowski and Hronek getting better. Jury's still out on Moose, tho.

If Blash can transform lil'Bert into our very own version of Marchand - why I'll hand deliver our dear coach a bottle of scotch...Or bourbon - his choice.

Edited February 26, 2019 by F.Michael

[The 91 of Ryans 3,014]

5 hours ago, MileHighWingsGuy said:

A lot of fans seem to be embracing the losing culture and are complacent with mediocrity. Hoping Yzerman can reverse that.

Nah. No one wants to cheer for a losing team. BUT after 30 years of winning and no top 10 picks from 1991 - 2016, it's clear a little losing won't.......

You know what? f*** it. How many times does this s*** have to be explained?  

[Learn2LuvIt 245]

I sat next to Coach Q on a flight out to San Fran a month ago.  Our connection from DTW was in Chicago, and that's when we ended up on the flight together.  No sh--.  He was flying into the area for the All Star game and had his wife and kids with him.  (i can provide a picture of evidence if actually needed to support the following.).  Not posting this to play any type of big-shot or "name dropper" (I got bumped to first class and was originally had a ticket in coach), just thought the below was funny.

Long story, long flight, but i basically told coach Q the following scenario that I'd love to see play out:  I prefaced this with saying this could be next year or the year after:  Jimmy D retires or at least gives up his official role as SVP of the Wings, Kenny moves into the SVP position, and Stevie takes the reins as GM.  Stevie hires Coach Q to be our coach.  We potentially have Jack Hughes and a stable of younger talent with growing cap room and expiring contracts to improve the team considerably and fairly quickly.  Coach Q can keep his family in Chicago if he wants (he said his family loves the Chi area) and be a 40 minute flight to jump to-and-from home when wanted/needed.  I also pitched him in relocating his family to the Detroit area as the lifestyle/community is somewhat similar (midwest values, etc.) to that of Chicago.  He said he loved the Detroit area and had spent a lot of time here over the years (he named a few areas, restaurants, and golf courses that he really likes).  He also gushed about the Wings organization.  The deep history, the way they run the organization and what a marvel they've been for so long, original 6, etc..  He commented that "you have this all thought out don't you!"  I think he actually liked my plan (hopeful but I doubt it).  I told him to call my cell if he wanted me to "set the wheels in motion" lol.  I have not heard from him though (yet..lol).

[Dabura 12,206]

1 minute ago, Learn2LuvIt said:

I sat next to Coach Q on a flight out to San Fran a month ago.  Our connection from DTW was in Chicago, and that's when we ended up on the flight together.  No sh--.  He was flying into the area for the All Star game and had his wife and kids with him.  (i can provide a picture of evidence if actually needed to support the following.).  Not posting this to play any type of big-shot or "name dropper" (I got bumped to first class and was originally had a ticket in coach), just thought the below was funny.

Long story, long flight, but i basically told coach Q the following scenario that I'd love to see play out:  I prefaced this with saying this could be next year or the year after:  Jimmy D retires or at least gives up his official role as SVP of the Wings, Kenny moves into the SVP position, and Stevie takes the reins as GM.  Stevie hires Coach Q to be our coach.  We potentially have Jack Hughes and a stable of younger talent with growing cap room and expiring contracts to improve the team considerably and fairly quickly.  Coach Q can keep his family in Chicago if he wants (he said his family loves the Chi area) and be a 40 minute flight to jump to-and-from home when wanted/needed.  I also pitched him in relocating his family to the Detroit area as the lifestyle/community is somewhat similar (midwest values, etc.) to that of Chicago.  He said he loved the Detroit area and had spent a lot of time here over the years (he named a few areas, restaurants, and golf courses that he really likes).  He also gushed about the Wings organization.  The deep history, the way they run the organization and what a marvel they've been for so long, original 6, etc..  He commented that "you have this all thought out don't you!"  I think he actually liked my plan (hopeful but I doubt it).  I told him to call my cell if he wanted me to "set the wheels in motion" lol.  I have not heard from him though (yet..lol).

LGW.com has operatives everywhere.

Seriously tho, that's an awesome story!

[Dominator2005 558]

Blash will be extended. 

 

This franchise needs Y more than ever. I'm hoping for Y-Verbeek-Q connection.

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

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Good move.  I think Holland is the real issue.  Having 3-5 million dollar 3rd and 4th liners isn't a good thing.  Vanek will be gone, but Abdelkader and Nielsen have horrible contracts.

[greenrebellion 415]

I am good with Blashill

[MileHighWingsGuy 178]

14 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

Nah. No one wants to cheer for a losing team. BUT after 30 years of winning and no top 10 picks from 1991 - 2016, it's clear a little losing won't.......

You know what? f*** it. How many times does this s*** have to be explained?  

No explaination needed, hope Yzerman can change the culture or we'll be in this for a while.

[HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878]

14 hours ago, Learn2LuvIt said:

I sat next to Coach Q on a flight out to San Fran a month ago.  Our connection from DTW was in Chicago, and that's when we ended up on the flight together.  No sh--.  He was flying into the area for the All Star game and had his wife and kids with him.  (i can provide a picture of evidence if actually needed to support the following.).  Not posting this to play any type of big-shot or "name dropper" (I got bumped to first class and was originally had a ticket in coach), just thought the below was funny.

Long story, long flight, but i basically told coach Q the following scenario that I'd love to see play out:  I prefaced this with saying this could be next year or the year after:  Jimmy D retires or at least gives up his official role as SVP of the Wings, Kenny moves into the SVP position, and Stevie takes the reins as GM.  Stevie hires Coach Q to be our coach.  We potentially have Jack Hughes and a stable of younger talent with growing cap room and expiring contracts to improve the team considerably and fairly quickly.  Coach Q can keep his family in Chicago if he wants (he said his family loves the Chi area) and be a 40 minute flight to jump to-and-from home when wanted/needed.  I also pitched him in relocating his family to the Detroit area as the lifestyle/community is somewhat similar (midwest values, etc.) to that of Chicago.  He said he loved the Detroit area and had spent a lot of time here over the years (he named a few areas, restaurants, and golf courses that he really likes).  He also gushed about the Wings organization.  The deep history, the way they run the organization and what a marvel they've been for so long, original 6, etc..  He commented that "you have this all thought out don't you!"  I think he actually liked my plan (hopeful but I doubt it).  I told him to call my cell if he wanted me to "set the wheels in motion" lol.  I have not heard from him though (yet..lol).

So we are banking on you? Hi Yzerman!  lol

15 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

Nah. No one wants to cheer for a losing team. BUT after 30 years of winning and no top 10 picks from 1991 - 2016, it's clear a little losing won't.......

You know what? f*** it. How many times does this s*** have to be explained?  

One more for old times sake?

[kipwinger 8,495]

13 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

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Good move.  I think Holland is the real issue.  Having 3-5 million dollar 3rd and 4th liners isn't a good thing.  Vanek will be gone, but Abdelkader and Nielsen have horrible contracts.

I agree that ideally you wouldn't want Abby and Nielsen (Helm, Glenny, Dekeyser, Ericsson too) on their current contracts.  But I also don't think it hurts us that much given how many ELCs we have on the books in the coming years.  My bigger issue with the roster is the presence of guys like De La Rose and Ehn.  Abby-Glen-Helm is a decent enough 4th line.  It's a HORRIBLE 3rd line.  That's a depth problem and one that will hopefully be solved with the additions of Zadina, Svech, and possible Veleno in the next year to year and a half.  Plus whomever we draft this year with our top pick, and potentially some free agents, as well. 

[GMRwings1983 8,793]

On 2/26/2019 at 7:59 AM, Learn2LuvIt said:

I sat next to Coach Q on a flight out to San Fran a month ago.  Our connection from DTW was in Chicago, and that's when we ended up on the flight together.  No sh--.  He was flying into the area for the All Star game and had his wife and kids with him.  (i can provide a picture of evidence if actually needed to support the following.).  Not posting this to play any type of big-shot or "name dropper" (I got bumped to first class and was originally had a ticket in coach), just thought the below was funny.

Long story, long flight, but i basically told coach Q the following scenario that I'd love to see play out:  I prefaced this with saying this could be next year or the year after:  Jimmy D retires or at least gives up his official role as SVP of the Wings, Kenny moves into the SVP position, and Stevie takes the reins as GM.  Stevie hires Coach Q to be our coach.  We potentially have Jack Hughes and a stable of younger talent with growing cap room and expiring contracts to improve the team considerably and fairly quickly.  Coach Q can keep his family in Chicago if he wants (he said his family loves the Chi area) and be a 40 minute flight to jump to-and-from home when wanted/needed.  I also pitched him in relocating his family to the Detroit area as the lifestyle/community is somewhat similar (midwest values, etc.) to that of Chicago.  He said he loved the Detroit area and had spent a lot of time here over the years (he named a few areas, restaurants, and golf courses that he really likes).  He also gushed about the Wings organization.  The deep history, the way they run the organization and what a marvel they've been for so long, original 6, etc..  He commented that "you have this all thought out don't you!"  I think he actually liked my plan (hopeful but I doubt it).  I told him to call my cell if he wanted me to "set the wheels in motion" lol.  I have not heard from him though (yet..lol).

When he got home he remembered that Jimmy Howard is still Detroit's goalie.  He's not calling you back.  

[Learn2LuvIt 245]

1 hour ago, GMRwings1983 said:

When he got home he remembered that Jimmy Howard is still Detroit's goalie.  He's not calling you back.  

No worries, I'm very used to is.  People (girls in particular) never call me back.

 

I've devised ways around this though.  I just need to find out where Coach Q lives so I can continue to try and make this a reality. 

[DickieDunn 2,571]

He must have gotten a copy of the blackmail pics/vid from Cleary and some of the other players.  

[MileHighWingsGuy 178]

6 game losing streak and the most embarrassing loss of the season and Holland is looking for the extension on Blashill. Guess he’s liking what he sees.

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

45 minutes ago, MileHighWingsGuy said:

6 game losing streak and the most embarrassing loss of the season and Holland is looking for the extension on Blashill. Guess he’s liking what he sees.

Yess. He does. Holland isn't looking at wins and losses, but at how his rebuilding team is developing. As he should be. When this team is relevant again and the rebuild is over dont expect Blash to still be coaching this team.

[MileHighWingsGuy 178]

6 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

Yess. He does. Holland isn't looking at wins and losses, but at how his rebuilding team is developing. As he should be. When this team is relevant again and the rebuild is over dont expect Blash to still be coaching this team.

Let me know when the "development" begins, the only exciting thing I've seen to cheer for is the tankathon. If the developing tankathon is the goal then Holland and Blashill should both be extended as we'll continue to have high draft picks with both at the helm.

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

11 minutes ago, MileHighWingsGuy said:

Let me know when the "development" begins, the only exciting thing I've seen to cheer for is the tankathon. If the developing tankathon is the goal then Holland and Blashill should both be extended as we'll continue to have high draft picks with both at the helm.

I don't what to tell you other than developing/rebuilding teams are bad. They lose. A lot. It sucks, but its also inevitable. You can't be a winner forever, regardless of who the owner, manager or coach are. We were a good team for a quarter of a century. A few bad years to rebuild isn't unreasonable, so long as we aren't entering another Dead Wing era.