kylee 727 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 Mid November and we're under .500 Let that sink in. 1 brett reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 worst thing is this edition is near the cap, so even if a trade presents itself they have to take that into accounting for fixes.Like I've said many times everyone not named Larkin, Dekeyser, Nyquist/Tatar, Z (deserves to retire as a wing) as does Kronner can go.Green, Vanek should each net a second time trade deadline and maybe a contender becomes desperate and wings could get a first for someone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, frankgrimes said: worst thing is this edition is near the cap, so even if a trade presents itself they have to take that into accounting for fixes. Like I've said many times everyone not named Larkin, Dekeyser, Nyquist/Tatar, Z (deserves to retire as a wing) as does Kronner can go. Green, Vanek should each net a second time trade deadline and maybe a contender becomes desperate and wings could get a first for someone. You would want to trade Mantha, AA & Sproul? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 You would want to trade Mantha, AA & Sproul?Forgot Mantha but if necessary for defensive help I would do it yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 21 minutes ago, frankgrimes said: Forgot Mantha but if necessary for defensive help I would do it yes. Ok, so its not that you want to get rid of them, but if they brought a strong return on the back end you would be willing to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 Ok, so its not that you want to get rid of them, but if they brought a strong return on the back end you would be willing to.Exactly and I think they could be packaged up in a nice deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 6 hours ago, frankgrimes said: Exactly and I think they could be packaged up in a nice deal For who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 Neither green nor Vanek will be traded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 For who?Defensive help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 14 minutes ago, frankgrimes said: Defensive help I meant "who" as who out there now in the NHL would be help on defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 The more games we lose the more likely Holland is to give up on this whole playoff scheme. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 I meant "who" as who out there now in the NHL would be help on defense.Fowler, Trouba (steal of a contract) and oh there is a guy named Chychrun... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingnut1989 165 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 I definitely would not trade AA, hes a big time playmaker for us. Some of the games this year seemed like he was the only one playing. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 I would just sit tight on trades if Mantha/AA and co are the only way to make it happen. Getting Fowler isn't going to make us a good team and the more experienced these prospects get the more they'll fetch in a trade. If Nyquist and Tatar weren't discovered as frauds the trade for a new dman would be a no brainer. Sit tight and wait for a good draft pic maybe make a deal at the deadline but don't trade our hyped young guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shocky2002 36 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) 14 hours ago, Euro_Twins said: You can't even take a positive as a positive can you? Not when the goalie we're talking about has a pretty large sample size of being mediocre (at least since 2013). He's going to come crashing down to earth. Go back to your safe space if you can't handle it. Edited November 19, 2016 by shocky2002 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 I must say that the coaching staff missed a trick with this game. Playing against just 3 forward lines for 2 periods we didn't role all 4 of our lines consistently during the middle period to wear their 9 forwards down enough to take advantage. This game was for the taking and once again we fire blanks when our goalie is giving us a chance to win. On a side note I hope when AA is back that he Larkin and Mantha are put together to be our 3rd line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacksoni 418 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 We played as well as we could have in this one I think. The outcome was expected, Washington is simply more talented and should win that game. Our league standing is looking more and more grim by the week. I just hope they win a few in a row, giving us a little sunshine before sinking for good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, frankgrimes said: Fowler, Trouba (steal of a contract) and oh there is a guy named Chychrun... I feel like we could add Shattenkirk and Trouba for free and this team would still be middling. This team needs more than just a defenseman or two, more than just a forward or two. This team needs...many things. Edited November 19, 2016 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted November 19, 2016 6 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: I think every player is tradeable. Larkin-Athanasiou-Mantha should try to be kept, but if we are offered a 1A defenseman with 5-10 years of prime left (OEL, Ekblad, etc), how do we say no? Yes, but without giving up Larkin, AA or Mantha you aren't even going to get a sniff of OEL, Ekblad and the ilk. Hell, those are all franchise players, we may not even get them WITH the guys you mentioned. We'll be lucky to land 1b type d-men with "potential" like Trouba, Fowler, Hamilton. 35 minutes ago, Dabura said: I feel like we could add Shattenkirk and Trouba for free and this team would still be middling. This team needs more than just a defenseman or two, more than just a forward or two. This team needs...many things. I agree, but our O was doing fine when Vanek and AA were healthy...at least better than now. If we got two of the four D-Men being talked about and our forwards stayed healthy, we'd be fine. BUT Kringewall has to sit, he just isn't NHL caliber anymore. I mentioned it another time, get one of Trouba/Fowler/Hamilton NOW and then get another one later or Shattenkirk as a UFA. It starts with the D. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted November 20, 2016 21 hours ago, frankgrimes said: Defensive help 21 hours ago, Hockeymom1960 said: I meant "who" as who out there now in the NHL would be help on defense. Defensive Help. He's a R handed defenseman out of Norway. Supposed to be real skilled. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
