LeftWinger 4,959 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 17 minutes ago, kliq said: Thats not the LeftWinger we all love and know....here let me pour fuel on the fire. What his LV offered to swap picks with Holland for a 5th rounder and Helm and Holland said no. Lets discuss. But he won 3 championships as a child! You can mock hardware all you want kickazz, but you are just a keyboard expert who doesn't understand intangibles! Now you know Holland would never trade a loyal player. But I'm sure Holland would still bypass him even if they swapped. Two years now, he has shown he has no idea... Maybe someone could Photoshop Holland's head on the infamous kathy Griffin photo...now thatd be funny. Id make that my avatar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacksoni 418 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 Too many picks for me to keep up. I am confident a few of these will pan out. Thing is, as Ken Holland said, we need stars, or really really good players. The first round pick still gives me a sour mouth. Should have picked Tippett, he was there. He will be a star, just not sure how bright. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 Last pick must be the small skilled euro player we haven't picked yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 Reilly Webb - http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?statsleague=Norway&player=273694&team=&year=&status=&leagueid=&season= Did everyone just decide to quit? Haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keep Your Stick On the Ice 67 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 Tick Tock Tick Tock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 626 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 19 minutes ago, Andy Pred 48 said: Last pick must be the small skilled euro player we haven't picked yet You were half right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keep Your Stick On the Ice 67 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=297674 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 And the late round steal is......... Brady Gilmour Any relation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 #9 - Michael Rasmussen - CAN - 6'5", 220lbs. - C - L http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=286738 #38 - Gustav Lindstrom - SWE - 6'2", 187lbs. - D - R http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=212379 #71 - Kasper Kotkansalo - FIN - 6'2", 190lbs. - D - L http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=221328 #79 - Lane Zablocki - CAN - 6'0", 185lbs. - C - R http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=247919 #83 - Zachary Gallant - CAN - 6'2", 187lbs. - C - L http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=273617 #88 - Keith Petruzzelli - USA - 6'6", 190lbs. - G http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=278954 #100 - Malte Setkov - DEN - 6'6", 192lbs. - D - L http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=265424 #131 - Cole Fraser - CAN - 6'2", 192lbs. - D - R http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=297963 #162 - Jack Adams - USA - 6'5", 194lbs. - RW - R http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=248398 #164 - Reilly Webb - CAN - 6'3", 198lbs. - D - R http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=273694 #193 - Brady Gilmour - CAN - 5'10", 170lbs. - C - L http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=297674 5 Keep Your Stick On the Ice, Detroit \# 1 Fan, Son of a Wing and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 Nope, just checked. Not related to Doug. Still, a good looking player. Saw him on a list of the top 10 OHL prospects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, PavelValerievichDatsyuk said: And the late round steal is......... Brady Gilmour Any relation? To Happy Gilmour? 2 PavelValerievichDatsyuk and Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keep Your Stick On the Ice 67 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 So we got 4 Centers, 5 Defensemen, an interesting goalie prospect with potential, and one RW. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 Gilmour plays for Ozzy and Devellano's Spirit so I'm sure they have had a good view on him. 2 amato and Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 Maybe to David Gilmour Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 987 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: #9 - Michael Rasmussen - CAN - 6'5", 220lbs. - C - L http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=286738 #38 - Gustav Lindstrom - SWE - 6'2", 187lbs. - D - R http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=212379 #71 - Kasper Kotkansalo - FIN - 6'2", 190lbs. - D - L http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=221328 #79 - Lane Zablocki - CAN - 6'0", 185lbs. - C - R http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=247919 #83 - Zachary Gallant - CAN - 6'2", 187lbs. - C - L http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=273617 #88 - Keith Petruzzelli - USA - 6'6", 190lbs. - G http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=278954 #100 - Malte Setkov - DEN - 6'6", 192lbs. - D - L http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=265424 #131 - Cole Fraser - CAN - 6'2", 192lbs. - D - R http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=297963 #162 - Jack Adams - USA - 6'5", 194lbs. - RW - R http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=248398 #164 - Reilly Webb - CAN - 6'3", 198lbs. - D - R http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=273694 #193 - Brady Gilmour - CAN - 5'10", 170lbs. - C - L http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=297674 Last pick only one under 6 foot now if half these big boys make it we will have size just in time as the game shifts back to small fast players...LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) oh boy George mcphee stole kennys line Edited June 24, 2017 by sjr2012 because Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 #9 - Michael Rasmussen - CAN - 6'5", 220lbs. - C - Lhttp://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=286738 #38 - Gustav Lindstrom - SWE - 6'2", 187lbs. - D - Rhttp://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=212379 #71 - Kasper Kotkansalo - FIN - 6'2", 190lbs. - D - Lhttp://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=221328 #79 - Lane Zablocki - CAN - 6'0", 185lbs. - C - Rhttp://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=247919 #83 - Zachary Gallant - CAN - 6'2", 187lbs. - C - Lhttp://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=273617 #88 - Keith Petruzzelli - USA - 6'6", 190lbs. - Ghttp://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=278954 #100 - Malte Setkov - DEN - 6'6", 192lbs. - D - Lhttp://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=265424 #131 - Cole Fraser - CAN - 6'2", 192lbs. - D - Rhttp://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=297963 #162 - Jack Adams - USA - 6'5", 194lbs. - RW - Rhttp://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=248398 #164 - Reilly Webb - CAN - 6'3", 198lbs. - D - Rhttp://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=273694 #193 - Brady Gilmour - CAN - 5'10", 170lbs. - C - Lhttp://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=297674So they DID take Petruzelli. Who was the top ranked goalie in the draft from Boston U, projected as low first/high second. Forget the name don't want to look it up . HahaSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Nope, just checked. Not related to Doug. Still, a good looking player. Saw him on a list of the top 10 OHL prospects.Yeah he's kind of a steal at that draft spot. Saginaw assistant captain with 50-60 points. Only entering his second OHL season, but looks good so far. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 Red Wings ranked loser https://www.sbnation.com/2017/6/23/15866512/nhl-draft-2017-winners-losers-nolan-patrick-ryan-reaves Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, ShanahanMan said: Red Wings ranked loser https://www.sbnation.com/2017/6/23/15866512/nhl-draft-2017-winners-losers-nolan-patrick-ryan-reaves To clarify, it ranks them losers for their first round pick, not overall draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 626 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 You'd think if Holland valued size enough to take Rasmussen over Vilardi or Tippet, moving up in the second round to take Hague would have been a no brainer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 Red Wings ranked loser https://www.sbnation.com/2017/6/23/15866512/nhl-draft-2017-winners-losers-nolan-patrick-ryan-reavesLOL First on the list too. Rasmussen was a surprise choice. His size inflated his stock quite a bit by the reactions I've read.Kings didn't even hesitate to nab Vilardi at 11th. Ten teams passed him over, one after Detroit.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,959 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, ShanahanMan said: Red Wings ranked loser https://www.sbnation.com/2017/6/23/15866512/nhl-draft-2017-winners-losers-nolan-patrick-ryan-reaves Losers Red Wings Maybe Michael Rasmussen ends up becoming the dream power forward the Red Wings are hoping he’ll be after selecting him with the No. 9 overall pick. But there are massive red flags in Rasmussen’s production at the junior level that beg questions about picking him in the top 10 with guys like Gabriel Vilardi and Owen Tippett still on the board. Rasmussen recorded 55 points in 50 games with the WHL’s Tri-City Americans, but 29 of his points came on the power play. Just 24 of his points came at even strength, and even fewer at 5-on-5, which isn’t a good sign for his ability to translate production to the NHL level. There’s a ton to like about Rasmussen’s game as a 6’6 forward who’s comfortable with the puck, solid defensively, and knows how to use his size to win puck battles. Bob McKenzie ranked him No. 9 in the class, so it’s not like it’s a pick totally out of left field. But it’s hard to get over the lack of even strength production in the WHL from a top-10 pick, particularly given the other talent still available. Edited June 25, 2017 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) First, I'd like to say everyone dumping on Holland and saying he's an "idiot" or whatever need to understand he's not making these decisions entirely by himself. These draft picks are the collective input from scouts, coaches, staff, ownership, etc. Some of you act like Holland is just ignoring the voices of reason and doing whatever he wants. Ultimately, he makes the decision, but he's making these decisions based on the input from a lot of other people. Second, while there are players I would have rather drafted in the first round, I have to give him credit for going against the grain. Back in the 90's, everyone looks for high octane offensive minded players and we went with speedy two way guys. Since we were pretty much the only team going in that direction, we had our pick of pretty much anyone we wanted. Today, the game has changed and there are a lot of teams drafting those types of players, trying to replicate that success. There's also a lot of teams shifting their defensemen to be more offensive minded puck moving, speedsters. After watching this draft, the Wings are clearly moving towards being a bigger, more physical team, which kind of makes sense. Most teams are not built the way the Wings are apparently going to be built now. Its a copycat league and if everyone is building their team to be fast, who's going to handle these big forwards standing in front of the net? Who's going to be strong enough to get the puck off our power forwards? Maybe this will end up not being the best idea and it won't work, but I'm going to give Holland and the rest of the front office decision makers credit for trying to do something different. Nobody ever got ahead by being like everyone else. Edited June 24, 2017 by xtrememachine1 6 derblaueClaus, Jasper84, ChristopherReevesLegs and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 Just now, chaps80 said: LOL First on the list too. Rasmussen was a surprise choice. His size inflated his stock quite a bit by the reactions I've read. Kings didn't even hesitate to nab Vilardi at 11th. Ten teams passed him over, one after Detroit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I will say, I wanted Vilardi like mostly everyone on here, but when 8 teams passed him over and then another two, I couldn't help but wonder why. I watched the kid play once in person, and he didnt impress me at all. If anything the kid on the Spits that really impressed me was Jeremy Bracco. That kid can skate! Just now, xtrememachine1 said: First, I'd like to say everyone dumping on Holland and saying he's an "idiot" or whatever need to understand he's not making these decisions entirely by himself. These draft picks are the collective input from scouts, coaches, staff, ownership, etc. Some of you act like Holland is just ignoring the voices of reason and doing whatever he wants. Ultimately, he makes the decision, but he's making these decisions based on the input from a lot of other people. Very good point. It is funny how when Det drafts a good kid Holland gets zero credit, but when its a bad pick he gets 100% of the blame. Definite double standard. 2 chaps80 and Jasper84 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted June 24, 2017 First, I'd like to say everyone dumping on Holland and saying he's an "idiot" or whatever need to understand he's not making these decisions entirely by himself. These draft picks are the collective input from scouts, coaches, staff, ownership, etc. Some of you act like Holland is just ignoring the voices of reason and doing whatever he wants. Ultimately, he makes the decision, but he's making these decisions based on the input from a lot of other people. Second, while there are players I would have rather drafted in the first round, I have to give him credit for going against the grain. Back in the 90's, everyone looks for high octane offensive minded players and we went with speedy two way guys. Since we were pretty much the only team going in that direction, we had our pick of pretty much anyone we wanted. Today, the game has changed and there are a lot of teams drafting those types of players, trying to replicate that success. There's also a lot of teams shifting their defensemen to be more offensive minded puck moving, speedsters. After watching this draft, the Wings are clearly moving towards being a bigger, more physical team, which kind of makes sense. Most teams are not built the way the Wings are apparently going to be built now. Its a copycat league and if everyone is building their team to be fast, who's going to handle these big forwards standing in front of the net? Who's going to be strong enough to get the puck off our power forwards? Maybe this will end up not being the best idea and it won't work, but I'm going to give Holland and the rest of the front office decision makers credit for trying to do something different. Nobody ever got ahead by being like everyone else.The Motto of LGW is "it's always Hollands fault".I remember when a few members here would blame him when certain players were playing over other players.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites