kliq 3,755 Report post Posted December 27, 2016 When Columbus beat us a few weeks ago some posters made comments like "its a shame to lose to a team like Columbus" etc. etc. etc. As we sit here on December 27th, 2016 Columbus is 23-5-4 with 50 points putting them #1 in the NHL. There is goal differential is +45, also #1 in the NHL. Goals For Per Game - #2 in the NHL Goals Against Per Game - #2 in the NHL PP% - #1 in the NHL PK% - #12 in the NHL So my question is, are the Blue Jackets for real, and are they legit Cup Contenders? Or, are they a team that we should be embarrassed to lose to? LW C RW Brandon Saad Alexander Wennberg Nick Foligno Boone Jenner Brandon Dubinsky Cam Atkinson Matt Calvert William Karlsson Josh Anderson Scott Hartnell Lukas Sedlak Sam Gagner Defensive Pairings Zach Werenski Seth Jones Jack Johnson David Savard Ryan Murray Markus Nutivaara Goalies Sergei Bobrovsky Curtis McElhinney Injury List David Clarkson Dalton Prout 1 NerveDamage reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted December 27, 2016 I hope they are a legit contender in the end. 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) Idk how Torterella is doing it but he needs to teach Blashill a lesson or two. Edited December 27, 2016 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,788 Report post Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) Greatest teams in NHL history: 1. 1977 Canadiens 2. 1984 Oilers 3. 2017 Blue Jackets In all seriousness, I've only heard of a handful of those players. I can't imagine this team sustaining this run in what looks to be a tough Conference come playoff time. Edited December 27, 2016 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted December 27, 2016 One question I have, is do they put rest to the notion that you need elite players to be a contender? OR do they have elite players but we just dont know they are elite yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) This might just end up being a fluke year for them. Atkinson is having a career year. Foligno is an all star player and has been nearly a PPG player in the past. Not sure if I'd say he's elite but he has it in him. Bobrovsky is a former Vezina player, playing like one again this year. This could purely be a case of complete team effort and nobody having to carry each other. 9/10 times your elite players can carry you, but if you play as a complete squad and are cerebral on ice it can go a long way. Maybe it's Tortorella here. Edited December 27, 2016 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted December 28, 2016 8 minutes ago, kickazz said: This might just end up being a fluke year for them. Atkinson is having a career year. Foligno is an all star player and has been nearly a PPG player in the past. Not sure if I'd say he's elite but he has it in him. Bobrovsky is a former Vezina player, playing like one again this year. This could purely be a case of complete team effort and nobody having to carry each other. 9/10 times your elite players can carry you, but if you play as a complete squad and are cerebral on ice it can go a long way. Maybe it's Tortorella here. Werenski is having one hell of a year as well. I was lucky enough to pick him up for nothing on my fantasy team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted December 28, 2016 1 minute ago, F.Michael said: For those around the league who wish to bash Torts.....The guy does have a Stanley Cup on his resume. I think hes great behind the bench and in front of the media. And i think its good for the league too. Hes pretty much the only coach that i turn the volume up for. Real talk, no BS. Treats his players the same and hes got that squad of young ones firing on all cylinders. 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted December 28, 2016 I hate Tortorella but I also love him. Guy annoys me but also entertains me. Does that make sense? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,788 Report post Posted December 28, 2016 2 hours ago, F.Michael said: For those around the league who wish to bash Torts.....The guy does have a Stanley Cup on his resume. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoalieManPat 1,007 Report post Posted December 28, 2016 They are a perfect example that if your team has the right players, not necessarily all all-stars, they can succeed. Having a defense that is actually competent and not all plugs helps. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacksoni 418 Report post Posted December 28, 2016 Been watching them with an eye opened since their great record a quarter into the season. My opinion is that they are for real. They play very hard, probably because of Tortorella driving things behind. Interestingly they don't seem to drop off in 2nd or 3rd period they still fore-check as hard with the main goal of stealing the puck in the mid-zone and it is working. Looking forward to see/read someone analyzing them right about the trade deadline, if their standing still hold up by then there is no doubt they are a big time contender. On top of that they lack a clear superstar and fire a cannon when scoring. And got a blue collar feel. Works for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted December 28, 2016 Scotty Bowman feels that its goaltending and a killer powerplay that are the two main ingredients for a solid hockey team, and a big reason why Columbus has been doing so well. http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2016/12/27/scotty-bowman-says-division-games-may-decide-wings-fate/95897282/ 1 Jacksoni reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ami 273 Report post Posted December 28, 2016 16 hours ago, GMRwings1983 said: yeah, good thing happened there. i'd have torts and the rest of tampons with Stanley Cup any day of the week then POS Iginla! 2 hours ago, GoalieManPat said: They are a perfect example that if your team has the right coach and players, not necessarily all all-stars, they can succeed. Having a defense that is actually competent and not all plugs helps. Fixed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted December 28, 2016 2 hours ago, ami said: yeah, good thing happened there. i'd have torts and the rest of tampons with Stanley Cup any day of the week then POS Iginla! Fixed Out of curiosity, why is Iginla a POS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, kliq said: Out of curiosity, why is Iginla a POS? He was a POS whenever he played against the Red Wings. A pest at times. Great scorer though. A player I'd want to have but hate to play against. Probably a lesser version of Shanahan. Edited December 28, 2016 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted December 31, 2016 I heard this from the legendary play-by-play broadcaster Mike Stubbs, during his pre-game before tonight's Sarnia v. London OHL game on AM980, London ON, which i will paraphrase: Saturday's Columbus (14-game winning streak) v. Minnesota (12-game winning streak) game is the first time in NHL history that both teams enjoy current double-digit winning streaks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted December 31, 2016 On 12/27/2016 at 6:43 PM, GMRwings1983 said: Greatest teams in NHL history: 1. 1977 Canadiens 2. 1984 Oilers 3. 2017 Blue Jackets In all seriousness, I've only heard of a handful of those players. I can't imagine this team sustaining this run in what looks to be a tough Conference come playoff time. Doubt it, they have a really good team. They also have the 2nd best goalie in the league right now (2nd in GAA, 2nd in Save %). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THATANK911 17 Report post Posted December 31, 2016 This team reminds me alot of the Carolina team that won the cup. Not picked to do much and they just go out play hard and have fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted December 31, 2016 happy for Prout, Werenski, Jones and Jenner There is no way they can keep up this physicality play sadly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted December 31, 2016 Wanted to go to the game tonight here in Minnesota. No joke tickets are going for over $500 lower level I've seen... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacksoni 418 Report post Posted December 31, 2016 Was not picturing myself watching a Columbus - Minnesota game, but I'll take a peek at it when recovering tomorrow. I tend to agree frankgrimes, some of those players are gonna break. Happy for Werenski though, kid is earning his stripes. Would give half an arm to have him wear a winged wheel jersey. 1 frankgrimes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted December 31, 2016 3 hours ago, frankgrimes said: happy for Prout, Werenski, Jones and Jenner There is no way they can keep up this physicality play sadly Saad, Foligno, Dubinsky, Hartnell, Anderson, Johnson and Savard also all play with an edge. This team is built for this style of play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted December 31, 2016 5 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: How has anybody not posted Torts' adjustment to following advanced stat trends as part of his success? I've watched a handful of blue jackets games, and the announcers bring it up A LOT. The coaching staff of the blue jackets has made a massive effort to shift toward players who generate quick transition from the defensive zone to the offensive zone and players who keep it in the offensive zone (strong CF%). Our GM and coach are so far behind in this regard, it should surprise no one that we are performing poorly. ... Columbus is not a good possession team. If it's a focus for them, they aren't very good at focusing. The Wings may suck at it this year, but given our history, suggesting it's not something the organization values is idiotic. The Wings are the main reason "possession" is even a thing in the NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted January 1, 2017 8 hours ago, frankgrimes said: happy for Prout, Werenski, Jones and Jenner There is no way they can keep up this physicality play sadly And why can't they? Has anything shown you that so far? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites