LeftWinger 4,934 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 1 minute ago, amato said: Fair enough. I thought you meant straight up but yeah, I'd be fine with giving up the first in a package for ether.. I'd really like to win the lottery too though We may end up top 5 anyhow, I am not sure the 1st overall would be that much better than #5. No player this season is that great or a clear #1, I've seen mock's that have players all over the place in the top 5 or 6. IMO, Holland is dealing the 1st, at least not by the deadline, maybe come amateur draft day he does. The only way I'd like to see the 1st traded on DL day is for a clear cut #1 D-man. With so many teams right on the cusp (we're only 7 out) of the making the playoffs, I don't see that happening. If ARZ is not going to deal OEL (which I agree, why would they really) there is no D on COL that is worth the 1st. Hmmmmm....but what about Landeskog or McKinnon? Would you package the 1st for one of those two? COL is already known to be shopping players, would they like 2 picks in the top 5? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 I wouldn't expect a lot of movement come trade deadline, even if one of the big three from the Avs is in play who has the cap space and is willing to pay the high asking price? Personally I'm looking forward to seeing the Wings doing what they should've done since 2012 rebuild this thing from the ground up. Get what you can for Vanek and Green and then go from there, if someone offers a solid player for Goose, Tatar they are gone..if a contender wants depth the Wings have it for the right price. This could be a deadline were the Wings finally load up on prospects and picks I'm so looking forward to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: We may end up top 5 anyhow, I am not sure the 1st overall would be that much better than #5. No player this season is that great or a clear #1, I've seen mock's that have players all over the place in the top 5 or 6. IMO, Holland is dealing the 1st, at least not by the deadline, maybe come amateur draft day he does. The only way I'd like to see the 1st traded on DL day is for a clear cut #1 D-man. With so many teams right on the cusp (we're only 7 out) of the making the playoffs, I don't see that happening. If ARZ is not going to deal OEL (which I agree, why would they really) there is no D on COL that is worth the 1st. Hmmmmm....but what about Landeskog or McKinnon? Would you package the 1st for one of those two? COL is already known to be shopping players, would they like 2 picks in the top 5? I'd love to have either Duchene or MacKinnon (I believe it was duchene, not landeskog that Colorado was rumored to be open to trading) because a top center is another big need for us but I think the price will be way too high for either of those guys for me to be comfortable with a trade. Honestly I don't know if we have the pieces they'd want.. Plus, a top five pick would likely be a center anyway (or liljegren, who I'd also like). 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) Just now, amato said: I'd love to have either Duchene or MacKinnon (I believe it was duchene, not landeskog that Colorado was rumored to be open to trading) because a top center is another big need for us but I think the price will be way too high for either of those guys for me to be comfortable with a trade. Honestly I don't know if we have the pieces they'd want.. Plus, a top five pick would likely be a center anyway (or liljegren, who I'd also like). Easy answer Sakic is looking for a top pairing guy around 25 years old, failing that it's a top 4 defenseman + 1 round pick + prospect. So basically Lark in + first round pick (top 5 this year) + a good AHL player ...that's not something the Wings can give up on the verge of a rebuild it's just too much pieces going back. Edited February 21, 2017 by frankgrimes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,492 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 My trade deadline strategy is pretty simple. 1. Trade Dekeyser (for no less than a 1st or part of a package). 2. Trade Nyquist (for no less thana 1st or part of a package). 2. Trade Vanek if you get a 1st, otherwise don't and let him continue to mentor Mantha. 3. Trade Ott, Miller, Ericsson, if anybody wants them. If not, waive the forwards. 4. Play remainder of the season with the expressed intent of giving kids developmental opportunities AT THE POSITIONS WE NEED THEM TO PLAY IN. 5. Reassess in the offseason. Z-Neilsen-Mantha Tatar-AA-Vanek Jurco/Frk-Larkin-Abby Glen-Helm-Callahan Jurco/Frk Smith-Green Ouellet-Jensen Kronwall/Ericsson-Sproul 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 Is today the trade deadline? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,492 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 Nope, March 1st. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 33 minutes ago, kipwinger said: Nope, March 1st. Nope, February 28th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 Sheahan traded to Edmonton for McDavid. I think Edmonton won this trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 23 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Nope, February 28th. Quote NOTE: The 2017 NHL Trade Deadline is 3 p.m. ET on March 1. https://www.nhl.com/news/2016-17-nhl-trades/c-281003458?tid=278542340 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, amato said: https://www.nhl.com/news/2016-17-nhl-trades/c-281003458?tid=278542340 Hmmmm when you google search "nhl trade deadline 2017 date" an unclickable box appears at the top saying Tuesday the 28th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Hmmmm when you google search "nhl trade deadline 2017 date" an unclickable box appears at the top saying Tuesday the 28th. So it does. weird. Google has failed you.... first time for everything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 From now on LGW is a Bing family 2 Echolalia and FireCaptain reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,934 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 No. Player Player Info. Potential Suitors 1 Kevin Shattenkirk, D 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $4,250,000 Age: 28 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded All signs point to Blues trading Shattenkirk by the deadline. They want a current NHL player or top prospect and a high draft pick. 2 Martin Hanzal, C/LW 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $3,100,000 Age: 29 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded If they haven't signed a contract extension by now, it's not going to happen unless Arizona steps up, which means Hanzal's moving by the deadline. 3 Thomas Vanek, LW/RW 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $2,600,000 Age: 33 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded Primarily due to the expansion draft, it's unlikely Vanek signs an extension in Detroit, making a trade prior to March 1 expected. 4 Matt Duchene, C/LW 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $6,000,000 Age: 26 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded Like with Landeskog, moving Duchene mid-season is not a must for the Avs. Barring a team's willingness to really step up, this is likely an off-season trade. 5 Gabriel Landeskog, LW 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $5,571,429 Age: 24 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded The Avs don't have to trade Landeskog this season, they can wait until the summer, but that won't stop teams from trying to make a move now. 6 Radim Vrbata, RW 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $1,000,000 Age: 35 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded Vrbata's having a very good year, all things considered, and teams will pay a higher price for his tiny salary cap hit. 7 Ben Bishop, G 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $5,950,000 Age: 30 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded Bishop's future still does not appear to be in Tampa and if he's not dealt by March 1, his rights could be moved in June for a much smaller price. 8 Patrik Berglund, C/LW 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $3,700,000 Age: 28 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded The Blues could move Berglund if they can't sign him to an extension. He's a UFA-to-be, and the Blues are in an odd state where moving him makes sense. 9 Patrick Eaves, LW/RW 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $1,000,000 Age: 32 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded Eaves is among the UFA-to-be leaders in goals and points and the Stars will be asking for a high return for Eaves, who's having a career year. 10 Marc-Andre Fleury, G 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $5,750,000 Age: 32 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded Moving Fleury all comes down to the offer and whether the Pens feel they're better dealing him or keeping him for another Cup run and going from there. 11 Michael Stone, D 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $4,000,000 Age: 26 Status: Traded to Calgary The Coyotes are taking calls on just about everyone, including Stone, who could bring Arizona a solid return before the trade deadline. 12 Shane Doan, RW 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $3,876,134 Age: 40 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded By all accounts, Doan is willing to move for a few months to a Stanley Cup contender if the right opportunity presented itself. 13 Patrick Sharp, LW 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $5,900,000 Age: 35 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded Sharp's salary cap hit is a concern for some teams, the Stars would have to cover a chunk, but he's still a solid addition for a contender looking for extra scoring. 14 Jarome Iginla, RW 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $5,333,333 Age: 39 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded Iginla will be dealt before the deadline to a top contender, but it all comes down to price and which team wants his veteran presence the most. 15 Brendan Smith, D 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $2,750,000 Age: 27 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded Smith's an affordable asset for a team in need of help on the backend. His cap hit is attractive and once healthy, is likely on the move by March 1. 16 Alexandre Burrows, LW/RW 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $4,500,000 Age: 35 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded Burrows has a say in where he ends up, but trade talks won't pick up until the Canucks have a better indication on their season. 17 Johnny Oduya, D 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $3,750,000 Age: 35 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded Add Oduya to the list of Stars' players who could move by March 1's deadline. His playoff experience is very valuable to Stanley Cup contenders. 18 Brian Boyle, LW 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $2,000,000 Age: 32 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded If the Bolts feel they can't re-sign Boyle, moving him to a contender appears to be a realistic move, and there will be plenty of teams lining up for his services. 19 Jordan Eberle, RW 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $6,000,000 Age: 26 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded It's trade deadline season, so naturally Eberle's name is out there. We're not anticipating a trade by the deadline, but he's being talked about. 20 James van Riemsdyk, LW 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $4,250,000 Age: 27 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded The Leafs, as it's been well publicized, aren't moving JVR unless they deal him for a young, top-pair defenseman. So, there you go. 21 P-A Parenteau, RW/LW 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $1,250,000 Age: 33 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded Parenteau's had a solid season with New Jersey, and if the Devils enter sell-mode, he'll command a solid return from a contender in need of depth scoring. 22 Valtteri Filppula, C/LW 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $5,000,000 Age: 32 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded Tampa is trying to create cap space for next season to sign some of the pending RFAs and Filppula could be the odd man out. He's being shopped. - 23 Ron Hainsey, D 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $2,833,333 Age: 35 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded Hainsey, who has a 15-team no-trade list, comes with an affordable cap hit. He's an attractive option for teams looking to strengthen their blueline. 24 Dmitry Kulikov, D 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $4,333,333 Age: 26 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded It sounds like the Sabres are leaning towards trading Kulikov by the deadline, but there's also a chance they try to sign him to a contract extension. - 25 Cody Franson, D 2016-17 Salary Cap Hit: $3,325,000 Age: 29 Status: Available, Not Yet Traded Franson is in the final year of his contract and teams in need of solid depth on the blueline will be knocking on Buffalo's door. Here is the link to that table above. http://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade_deadline/top25/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,934 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 Seems Anaheim is looking to move a defender, but it's not Fowler. http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/ana170220.html If they're able to do this, it sure lesson's their burden come expansion draft... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DangleDangleBeach 16 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 Intriguing the wings are said to be interested in Duchene. Unfortunately, as always, we don't have close to what they are looking for. Either way, it seems like a change of scenery would do him good if he does land elsewhere. Wings are standing pat. Only moves kenny is considering is how he can bring eaves and flipper back. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,934 Report post Posted February 21, 2017 Useless to bring Eaves back and use him in a bottom 6 role again...but I know you are being sarcastic. Why not add Hudler in there as well! to DAL : Larkin and 1st round pick to DET : Eaves, Hudler +5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fedorovfan 25 Report post Posted February 22, 2017 Good gravy can Holland just go away if this is true? http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2017/2/22/14695858/nhl-trade-rumors-reports-indicate-red-wings-general-manager-ken-holland-bizarre-stance-trade-calls Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BringBack19 110 Report post Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Fedorovfan said: Good gravy can Holland just go away if this is true? http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2017/2/22/14695858/nhl-trade-rumors-reports-indicate-red-wings-general-manager-ken-holland-bizarre-stance-trade-calls Quite frankly this doesn't surprise me. Smith has underperformed expectations so he deserves a 6 year, 4 million dollar contract in Hollands mind. Edited February 22, 2017 by BringBack19 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MileHighWingsGuy 178 Report post Posted February 22, 2017 20 minutes ago, Fedorovfan said: Good gravy can Holland just go away if this is true? http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2017/2/22/14695858/nhl-trade-rumors-reports-indicate-red-wings-general-manager-ken-holland-bizarre-stance-trade-calls This team will not get back to what it was until Holland/Blashill leave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted February 22, 2017 Well, if Holland lets Smith leave and he goes to another team and his performance improves, that would make Holland look bad., Much better to give him a 4 year deal to stay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted February 22, 2017 The Wings have invested soooo much time with Smith. I'd rather keep him then get a 5th round pick and watch him play like Shultz for Pittsburgh. But watch people will assume for the next 5 years Wings were offered 1st round picks left and right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Toledo 233 Report post Posted February 22, 2017 Is it possible that Holland is trying to negotiate a new contract to make Smith more enticing to Las Vegas? Leave him exposed on a decent contract and they might bite. But, getting a pick or anything for him would be better than that option so there goes that theory... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted February 22, 2017 So apparently Miller wants to be traded. http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2017/02/22/hopefully-i-get-traded-says-wings-miller/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 22, 2017 can't blame him.... who wouldn't want to in his situation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
