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[amato 3,210]

Hearing Kulikov's name in connection with the red wings as well.. at least he's younger? Doesn't exactly excite me any more than what we've got though. 

Used to be a fan of Daley but again, why not just go with what we've got? Maybe they know something we don't and the status of Kronwall and/or Ericsson is worse than has been reported to the public.. if we sign anyone, I hope it's a one year deal. 

Yakapov on a low cost/term prove it contract, as mentioned by others before, would be a great idea imo. I just feel like he might have better offers in the KHL and sign there instead. 

[joesuffP 1,746]

1 hour ago, krsmith17 said:

Do you think there's even a remote possibility that Ericsson is the healthy scratch? I don't. But I would still prefer a 24 year old Sproul in that spot over a 38 year old Campbell. How does scratching a 24 year old with potential (even if that potential is a 3rd pairing, power-play specialist) and bringing in a 38 year old that's on his last leg help a rebuilding team?

I just don't see a future for Sproul with the Red Wings but who knows, maybe Ericsson gets bought out and surprises everyone. I'd rather Sproul being the 7th D but I don't think he's earned a regular spot in the lineup

1 hour ago, e_prime said:

TBH -- I have no idea what to feel about this. 

Weird. I think it's pretty clear now that Holland will be adding a cheaper defensmen of some sort

[DickieDunn 2,571]

15 minutes ago, kickazz said:

Not the point, he was still called up at age 20 and first year as pro. And Mantha, Larkin, AA are all on roster. So what exactly was the point of your post? 

If Svech doesn't make it opening night, he's not good enough to beat out the top 9 period. Regardless of what you think from behind your taptalk phone virtual keyboard at work. 

For 2 games.  That's a "we need a body, might as well get a look at this kid," not really a promotion.  And if you don't think there's a good chance they send him down just because they can when he's as good or better than some random vet, you haven't been paying attention to the Wings.

Honestly, I think I'd rather have him in GR than in Detroit where Trashill can screw with his head.

[krsmith17 7,191]

30 minutes ago, kickazz said:

Not the point, he was still called up at age 20 and first year as pro. And Mantha, Larkin, AA are all on roster. So what exactly was the point of your post? 

If Svech doesn't make it opening night, he's not good enough to beat out the top 9 period. Regardless of what you think from behind your taptalk phone virtual keyboard at work. 

I think we all know this isn't necessarily true. 

31 minutes ago, amato said:

Hearing Kulikov's name in connection with the red wings as well.. at least he's younger? Doesn't exactly excite me any more than what we've got though. 

Used to be a fan of Daley but again, why not just go with what we've got? Maybe they know something we don't and the status of Kronwall and/or Ericsson is worse than has been reported to the public.. if we sign anyone, I hope it's a one year deal. 

Yakapov on a low cost/term prove it contract, as mentioned by others before, would be a great idea imo. I just feel like he might have better offers in the KHL and sign there instead. 

I was wondering this as well. And if this is the case, I guess I'm okay with bringing in a defenseman on a short term deal, otherwise, go with what we have or make a trade...

1 hour ago, e_prime said:

TBH -- I have no idea what to feel about this. 

I've been one of Smitty's biggest supporters, and I would MUCH rather him than any of the other guys mentioned, but unless we can shed one or two of Kronwall / Ericsson, I say let him re-sign with the Rangers...

[LeftWinger 4,961]

1 hour ago, e_prime said:

TBH -- I have no idea what to feel about this. 

Ugh...no, God no.

[kickazz 5,459]

33 minutes ago, DickieDunn said:

For 2 games.  That's a "we need a body, might as well get a look at this kid," not really a promotion.  And if you don't think there's a good chance they send him down just because they can when he's as good or better than some random vet, you haven't been paying attention to the Wings.

Honestly, I think I'd rather have him in GR than in Detroit where Trashill can screw with his head.

He's not better than the top 9. Just in his 2 games you could tell. He needs another year in GR. He's not like Larkin who was a shoe-in. Nor was he like AA or Mantha who we're debatable. Svech was not debatable last year. He needed and probably still needs more time in GR. Unless something changes this summer. 

Furthermore, EVEN if he is better than say ONE player on the top 9, it doesn't necessarily mean the right decision is to bring him up. First of all it's a matter of development. Will Svech benefit from coming up now, or will another year in AHL help him reach his ceiling? If it's a choice of being the 9th best forward and being on the roster vs. potentially becoming a top 3 player with one more year of experience in AHL (with heavier minutes), then as a GM or a coach I would want the second choice every single time. 

But of course some of ya'll don't think that deep and jump on the "omg omg omg Holland something something vets favored, Svech not in, I want to see his orange , acne face something something Holland smells bad" narrative or whatever.

Edited June 28, 2017 by kickazz

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55 minutes ago, amato said:

Hearing Kulikov's name in connection with the red wings as well.. at least he's younger? Doesn't exactly excite me any more than what we've got though. 

Used to be a fan of Daley but again, why not just go with what we've got? Maybe they know something we don't and the status of Kronwall and/or Ericsson is worse than has been reported to the public.. if we sign anyone, I hope it's a one year deal. 

Yakapov on a low cost/term prove it contract, as mentioned by others before, would be a great idea imo. I just feel like he might have better offers in the KHL and sign there instead. 

Where did you heard rumors regarding Kulikov?

Daley would be Nice addition........ 5 years ago!

Stick and suck with the kids and let's hope to have some luck next year with draft. Let's try to move Green (+) for 1st rounder at TD...

[amato 3,210]

11 minutes ago, Dominator2005 said:

Where did you heard rumors regarding Kulikov?

Daley would be Nice addition........ 5 years ago!

Stick and suck with the kids and let's hope to have some luck next year with draft. Let's try to move Green (+) for 1st rounder at TD...

https://theathletic.com/71094/2017/06/27/custance-red-wings-on-the-hunt-for-veterans-on-defense/

Custance mentions kulikov in here. Agreed with your other points but it sounds like we're pretty set on adding a veteran d man which makes me think Kronwall and/or Ericssons status is in doubt more than we think. 

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

6 minutes ago, amato said:

https://theathletic.com/71094/2017/06/27/custance-red-wings-on-the-hunt-for-veterans-on-defense/

Custance mentions kulikov in here. Agreed with your other points but it sounds like we're pretty set on adding a veteran d man which makes me think Kronwall and/or Ericssons status is in doubt more than we think. 

I'm with you, I don't really get the whole dumb dumb Holland how dare you sign a vet narrative going on. These are most likely going to be inexpensive vets on short contracts to fill holes and possibly even be traded at the deadline. With Kronwalls health and play declining, and Ericssons overall play declining, we may end up looking at a D roster closer to this:

Daley - Green
DK - Jensen
XO - Girardi
Sproul

And I really only think we will sign one verteran D-man. When injuries ravage our D line again we will need some warm bodies. I'm not very comfortable throwing Hicketts or Saarijarvi yet. Maybe Russo...

[LeftWinger 4,961]

 

 

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

1 hour ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

He earned a legit shot on the big club.

That's a D-man with a big stick

[frankgrimes 1,836]

2 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

He earned a legit shot on the big club.

Dylan McIlrath would instantly make this team fun to watch, hope it's true

[DickieDunn 2,571]

This team is rebuilding whether Holland wants to admit it or not. Over ripe is no longer a viable strategy

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[e_prime 1,936]

3 hours ago, krsmith17 said:

I've been one of Smitty's biggest supporters, and I would MUCH rather him than any of the other guys mentioned, but unless we can shed one or two of Kronwall / Ericsson, I say let him re-sign with the Rangers...

This.  All of this. 

Also, you just gotta wonder how much Smitty would want to come back here... I'm sure he understood that his trade had everything to do with being able to flip assets to make this team better, but now that he's seen another club... grass is greener?  or grass actually IS greener.

[Dominator2005 558]

2 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

I'm with you, I don't really get the whole dumb dumb Holland how dare you sign a vet narrative going on. These are most likely going to be inexpensive vets on short contracts to fill holes and possibly even be traded at the deadline. With Kronwalls health and play declining, and Ericssons overall play declining, we may end up looking at a D roster closer to this:

Daley - Green
DK - Jensen
XO - Girardi
Sproul

And I really only think we will sign one verteran D-man. When injuries ravage our D line again we will need some warm bodies. I'm not very comfortable throwing Hicketts or Saarijarvi yet. Maybe Russo...

When Daley is your top D than you know that you're in big trouble... Btw O would rather have McIlarth than Girardi/Sproul as 6-7 D.

I would run :

Deke - Green

Kulikov (short term) - Jensen

Errorson/Kronwall - McIlarth 

Russo/Sproul

3 hours ago, amato said:

https://theathletic.com/71094/2017/06/27/custance-red-wings-on-the-hunt-for-veterans-on-defense/

Custance mentions kulikov in here. Agreed with your other points but it sounds like we're pretty set on adding a veteran d man which makes me think Kronwall and/or Ericssons status is in doubt more than we think. 

Thanks for Link

[LeftWinger 4,961]

Bet Brian Boyle gets a call from Holland.

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

31 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Bet Brian Boyle gets a call from Holland.

8 years, 1 million per.

[Dominator2005 558]

Well if it's for 6 years then initial KH offer should be $5M/season

[Dabura 12,207]

7 hours ago, amato said:

Used to be a fan of Daley but again, why not just go with what we've got?

We could flip Daley at the trade deadline + he could be a safety net in the event that Green is dealt long before the trade deadline + Kronwall's status may be uncertain.

[amato 3,210]

2 minutes ago, Dabura said:

We could flip Daley at the trade deadline + he could be a safety net in the event that Green is dealt long before the trade deadline + Kronwall's status may be uncertain.

Good points. It's rumored that many teams are interested in him though and I don't really see him signing a one year deal if that's the case. 

[chaps80 1,591]

10 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

Ugh...no, God no.

Bahahaha Another D man Kenny finally traded, now wants him back? Think Kenny,  THINK!!

[MileHighWingsGuy 178]

I wonder if Kenny has a garage full of old cars that he just can't get rid of at home.

[Andy Pred 48 337]

I read that one of the blogger s stated we were looking at a NM as well? Don't know if this was a slip of the pen or they knew some inside info. Sure it was Custance that mentioned it.

Grauber was the nettie mentioned.

Edited June 29, 2017 by Andy Pred 48

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[krsmith17 7,191]

13 minutes ago, HockeytownRules19 said:

 

Make sure you lowball this one Kenny...