chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted May 14, 2017 Holland isn't in a bad situation anymore goalie wise either. Mrazek has one season left at $4 million, and Howard two at $5.2 million. The ideal situation would be that Mrazek rebounds and signs a long term extension. Even if he doesn't rebound fully, but plays respectable, he's still an RFA, so Holland has negotiating room at arbitration (if it goes that far) for a one season deal for cheaper if he doesn't want to give up on him yet. If Howard stays healthy and plays like he did last year in the minimal games he did play, then Holland should be able to trade him. If he can't, and Mrazek has played well enough, and he is comfortable having him be the starter full time going forward, then Holland can buy out the last year of his deal for $2.5 million in 2018/19, and $1.5 million in 2019/20. Then promote a backup from within (Coreau/Matej), or sign a journeyman NHL backup. Both would be cheap options. With Mrazek's extension, Howard's buyout, and a cheap backup, should be less than $10 million for a season, then down to $7 million (maybe less) or so a season after that. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted May 15, 2017 I saw some earlier comments praising nill for the bishop contract ....this had nothing to do with him being a great gm , bishop basically had no leverage , it's either Dallas Calgary jets or maybe flyers? Dallas also has lower taxes, American market .. Done deal Howard I do believe can be traded this year , he has 2 years left , if he was a ufa there's no way he'd get signed to a one year deal , maybe we'd have to eat a million off his cap number but it can be done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted May 15, 2017 1 hour ago, nyqvististhefuture said: I saw some earlier comments praising nill for the bishop contract ....this had nothing to do with him being a great gm , bishop basically had no leverage , it's either Dallas Calgary jets or maybe flyers? Dallas also has lower taxes, American market .. Done deal Howard I do believe can be traded this year , he has 2 years left , if he was a ufa there's no way he'd get signed to a one year deal , maybe we'd have to eat a million off his cap number but it can be done Calgary would have been a good option if he was strictly looking to go to a playoff team, but money wise, not with our s***ty CDN dollar. Same with Winnipeg, except playoffs are in question. No goalie wants to sign in Philly and curse their career unless the offer is wayyyy too much to refuse (Bryzgalov got rich off them without even playing lol. What was his deal? $10 million a year for ten years, bought out after one?) or if they're a goalie with no other options, like Ray Emery. I'd choose Dallas out of those teams too. There could have been other teams interested too though, just not obvious ones. Like Florida. Luongo is nearly 40, and won't play too much longer. Sign Bishop, leave Luongo exposed. Vegas would probably jump at him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,961 Report post Posted May 15, 2017 If Holland has to retain salary in a Howard deal, then het got fleeced. Retaining salary doesn't help us at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted May 15, 2017 11 hours ago, chaps80 said: Calgary would have been a good option if he was strictly looking to go to a playoff team, but money wise, not with our s***ty CDN dollar. Same with Winnipeg, except playoffs are in question. No goalie wants to sign in Philly and curse their career unless the offer is wayyyy too much to refuse (Bryzgalov got rich off them without even playing lol. What was his deal? $10 million a year for ten years, bought out after one?) or if they're a goalie with no other options, like Ray Emery. I'd choose Dallas out of those teams too. There could have been other teams interested too though, just not obvious ones. Like Florida. Luongo is nearly 40, and won't play too much longer. Sign Bishop, leave Luongo exposed. Vegas would probably jump at him. All else being equal, the low Cdn dollar (it's not that low relatively speaking....but if you are only looking at the last 5 years, then yes, low)....money wise he'd be better in Calgary. All salaries are paid in USD, so he'd have more purchasing power in Calgary with the lower Cdn dollar. Some items will even out though (i.e. cars will be more expensive). However, all else isn't equal. I'm not going waste the time looking into income taxes, while Alberta has the lowest rates in Canada I believe, Texas has no state income tax, so one of the cheapest states to live (tax wise) in the US, so it you'd definitely pay less tax in Texas than in Alberta. Sales tax is cheaper in Calgary though (5%) vs. 8.25% in Dallas. 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted May 16, 2017 9 hours ago, toby91_ca said: All else being equal, the low Cdn dollar (it's not that low relatively speaking....but if you are only looking at the last 5 years, then yes, low)....money wise he'd be better in Calgary. All salaries are paid in USD, so he'd have more purchasing power in Calgary with the lower Cdn dollar. Some items will even out though (i.e. cars will be more expensive). However, all else isn't equal. I'm not going waste the time looking into income taxes, while Alberta has the lowest rates in Canada I believe, Texas has no state income tax, so one of the cheapest states to live (tax wise) in the US, so it you'd definitely pay less tax in Texas than in Alberta. Sales tax is cheaper in Calgary though (5%) vs. 8.25% in Dallas. Alberta is 15% provincial tax on anything over $202,800, among the highest, but all provinces are high enough. Lol Federal tax on top of it is 33%. Sales tax is cheap in Alberta though. Only 5%, compared to 13% in Ontario, 15% in Newfoundland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted May 16, 2017 How the hell do people buy anything in countries with taxes like that. I mean, healthcare is "free," meaning prepaid by all those taxes, but damn. I get pissed at what I pay here.Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted May 16, 2017 14 hours ago, DickieDunn said: How the hell do people buy anything in countries with taxes like that. I mean, healthcare is "free," meaning prepaid by all those taxes, but damn. I get pissed at what I pay here. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk Gotta move to a tax free nation like Dubai or Qatar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted May 17, 2017 8 hours ago, kickazz said: Gotta move to a tax free nation like Dubai or Qatar They got hockey? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted May 17, 2017 13 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: They got hockey? Yeah lol. One of their female national team players practiced with Ovie this season. 1 amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted May 17, 2017 On 2017-5-15 at 10:04 PM, DickieDunn said: How the hell do people buy anything in countries with taxes like that. I mean, healthcare is "free," meaning prepaid by all those taxes, but damn. I get pissed at what I pay here. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk I dunno were used to it I guess. We make more money but live a similar lifestyle cause the taxes make up the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted May 17, 2017 2 hours ago, kickazz said: Yeah lol. One of their female national team players practiced with Ovie this season. Meh I bet her team chokes in the 2nd round every year too 1 kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted May 20, 2017 On 2017-05-15 at 10:04 PM, DickieDunn said: How the hell do people buy anything in countries with taxes like that. I mean, healthcare is "free," meaning prepaid by all those taxes, but damn. I get pissed at what I pay here. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk Well, the free health care sure is nice. I just had my gall bladder removed, which was only a one night stay in hospital, but the room for one night, surgery, pre-op emergency care and post-op nurses, medications, etc. would have cost a bundle out of pocket elsewhere. Some do pay high income taxes (the ones that make over a certain dollar amount), but some comes back at tax return time every year. The sales tax is ridiculous though. We've had some horrible Ontario governments in the past (and currently) who have wasted taxpayer dollars on a massive scale, and the only solution is to keep taxes high to keep the coffers full. Alberta has it easy paying only 5%. 1 PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted May 21, 2017 If hospitals and phamacuetical companies weren't allowed to price gouge we wouldn't have issues with health care costsSent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted May 21, 2017 2 hours ago, DickieDunn said: If hospitals and phamacuetical companies weren't allowed to price gouge we wouldn't have issues with health care costs Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk Maybe not, but the massive wages health care workers (especially doctors and surgeons) make still has to be covered somehow. Pharmacy costs can be cut down, some meds are ridiculously expensive. Isnt health care run by private companies in the States? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted May 21, 2017 4 hours ago, DickieDunn said: If hospitals and phamacuetical companies weren't allowed to price gouge we wouldn't have issues with health care costs Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk Lol at this post. Most hospitals don't even profit off patient care. You are an uninformed individual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted May 21, 2017 I was in the hospital with chest pains, got charged $50 for two aspirin. That's not price gouging?Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, DickieDunn said: I was in the hospital with chest pains, got charged $50 for two aspirin. That's not price gouging? Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk More like $50 for the tests they ran to rule out anything severe and nurses, doctors who did a physical exam to monitor and read ur heart rate, BP and other vitals. Also cost of occupying a bed. Assuming this was the ER. If clinic then you just have s***ty insurance with a high co-pay. But you know, it's was obviously those darn aspirins. Edited May 21, 2017 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted May 22, 2017 Ya man. If they just gave you two aspirins cause you said you had chest pains and sent you home without doing tests or an exam or anything for $50, LOL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, chaps80 said: Ya man. If they just gave you two aspirins cause you said you had chest pains and sent you home without doing tests or an exam or anything for $50, LOL. And that's how malpractice lawyers came to make millions of dollars. Edited May 22, 2017 by kickazz 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted May 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, kickazz said: And that's how malpractice lawyers came to make millions of dollars. "Who put the balm on??" "Did you put the balm on??" 1 kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted May 23, 2017 More like $50 for the tests they ran to rule out anything severe and nurses, doctors who did a physical exam to monitor and read ur heart rate, BP and other vitals. Also cost of occupying a bed. Assuming this was the ER. If clinic then you just have s***ty insurance with a high co-pay. But you know, it's was obviously those darn aspirins. No, the whole bill was about $3k. I looked at it. $50 for the aspirin.Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted May 23, 2017 1 hour ago, DickieDunn said: No, the whole bill was about $3k. I looked at it. $50 for the aspirin. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk $3000 for tests and 15 cents worth of Aspirin? That's insanity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted May 23, 2017 9 hours ago, DickieDunn said: No, the whole bill was about $3k. I looked at it. $50 for the aspirin. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk That would be due to our fine nations reimbursement structure. http://www.healthcarefinancenews.com/blog/why-aspirin-taken-hospital-can-cost-upwards-25 Go to urgent care next time. You'll probably save yourself money and save the hospital money as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted May 23, 2017 2 hours ago, kickazz said: That would be due to our fine nations reimbursement structure. http://www.healthcarefinancenews.com/blog/why-aspirin-taken-hospital-can-cost-upwards-25 Haha mannn. I'd lose it. Or bring them a whole bottle back instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites