Hossa's Career Might Be Over Already

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So we're just one fake injury away from getting rid of Errorson? Good to know...

[chaps80 1,591]

There's still a lot of people who don't like him, remember the boards here years ago? 

Yes I do. I've always been a fan of his though. How can you not be? He had his playoff issues from '99-'01, but I wonder how many fans thought after Babs replaced the legendary Hasek with him in '08 that it would be for good, and he'd play so well and backstop the team to the Cup? I liked the move and felt he had it in him, but it must have been a surprise to many. I think after that, he won over a lot of fans, especially when he was Conn Smythe good the very next playoff season.

I don't think some will ever see him as one of the best goalies to wear the winged wheel though, even with his stats and Cups. He's always just been Osgood, the guy with the weird helmet and not much skill who benefitted from the team in front of him to them. Too bad that's not at all true of him.


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[kickazz 5,459]

1 hour ago, chaps80 said:

 

Yes I do. I've always been a fan of his though. How can you not be? He had his playoff issues from '99-'01, but I wonder how many fans thought after Babs replaced the legendary Hasek with him in '08 that it would be for good, and he'd play so well and backstop the team to the Cup? I liked the move and felt he had it in him, but it must have been a surprise to many. I think after that, he won over a lot of fans, especially when he was Conn Smythe good the very next playoff season.

I don't think some will ever see him as one of the best goalies to wear the winged wheel though, even with his stats and Cups. He's always just been Osgood, the guy with the weird helmet and not much skill who benefitted from the team in front of him to them. Too bad that's not at all true of him.


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I'm just saying, I think Hasek has more Wing fans than Osgood does. 

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5 minutes ago, kickazz said:

I'm just saying, I think Hasek has more Wing fans than Osgood does. 

Nope Czech goalies suck

[chaps80 1,591]

I'm just saying, I think Hasek has more Wing fans than Osgood does. 

Probably. Then again, Hasek probably has more fans overall than any goalie of his era. Winning 6 Vezinas and a Hart and keeping a 1.96 GAA while tending goal for the Buffalo Sabres will do that. Then the '02 WCF Games 6 and 7 where he had two shutouts outplaying Roy and defeating the Avs probably pleased a few Wings fans. He was a man possessed in Game 6.


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Nope Czech goalies suck

No Martin Prusek does not.


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On 6/21/2017 at 10:58 PM, kickazz said:

So what's Igor Larionov doing on that thing 

It's not the NHL Hall of Fame.  It's the Hockey Hall of Fame.

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LOL PLEASE

[AtlantaHotWings 974]

20 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

LOL PLEASE

Wonder how deep they get into the conditions. Do they bring in doctors from Mayo Clinic or similar super specialists in that area?  Almost like me and my insurance Dr says you could do X to improve the condition and the insurance company says nope not covered.

NHL to Hossa sorry you  can't go LTIR for an allergy to equipment sorry feel free to appeal would be the same thing

[gcom007 1,465]

On 6/22/2017 at 3:53 PM, kickazz said:

There's still a lot of people who don't like him, remember the boards here years ago? 

The board collective doesn't like any Red Wings goalie for more than a few minutes at a time.

[Euro_Twins 4,475]

1 hour ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

When you were mindfly?

I thought you were mindfly. Its hard to keep up with all your banned accounts 

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

Hossa says he is NOT retired

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2781583-nhl-rumors-notable-trade-reports-on-road-to-2018-draft

Moving Marian Hossa's Contract a Priority for Chicago Blackhawks

The Chicago Blackhawks always seem to find creative ways to get out of salary-cap hell.

This summer, they'll be looking to dump Marian Hossa's dead money onto another team, likely by sweetening the pot with a prospect or draft pick. Think deals like the one we saw the Detroit Red Wings negotiate to get rid of Pavel Datsyuk's cap hit, or how Chris Pronger's deal was handled by the Philadelphia Flyers.

Jay Zawaski

 

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If you missed my interview, I’m told it’s a “priority” for the Blackhawks to move Marian Hossa’s contract this summer.

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Cap space is a commodity in its own right, and teams around the league could help Chicago take care of its Hossa problem.

It's not a trade that would make the league particularly happy, and we may even see dead-money deals get axed when it comes time to negotiate the next CBA. But right now, general manager Stan Bowman has the ability to dump Hossa's cap hit onto a budget team that is looking to get to the salary-cap floor without spending any actual money.

Scott Powers of The Athletic recently reported the Blackhawks would be willing to part with their No. 8 pick in the first round in the "right situation." Could the "right situation" be a trade that gets Hossa's $5.275 million cap hit off the books, freeing them up to be big-time players in free agency?

 

So would you take Hossa's contract in exchange for 8th overall?

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35 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2781583-nhl-rumors-notable-trade-reports-on-road-to-2018-draft

Moving Marian Hossa's Contract a Priority for Chicago Blackhawks

The Chicago Blackhawks always seem to find creative ways to get out of salary-cap hell.

This summer, they'll be looking to dump Marian Hossa's dead money onto another team, likely by sweetening the pot with a prospect or draft pick. Think deals like the one we saw the Detroit Red Wings negotiate to get rid of Pavel Datsyuk's cap hit, or how Chris Pronger's deal was handled by the Philadelphia Flyers.

Jay Zawaski

 

✔@JayZawaski670

 

 

If you missed my interview, I’m told it’s a “priority” for the Blackhawks to move Marian Hossa’s contract this summer.

11:57 AM - Jun 16, 2018 · Homewood, IL

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Cap space is a commodity in its own right, and teams around the league could help Chicago take care of its Hossa problem.

It's not a trade that would make the league particularly happy, and we may even see dead-money deals get axed when it comes time to negotiate the next CBA. But right now, general manager Stan Bowman has the ability to dump Hossa's cap hit onto a budget team that is looking to get to the salary-cap floor without spending any actual money.

Scott Powers of The Athletic recently reported the Blackhawks would be willing to part with their No. 8 pick in the first round in the "right situation." Could the "right situation" be a trade that gets Hossa's $5.275 million cap hit off the books, freeing them up to be big-time players in free agency?

 

So would you take Hossa's contract in exchange for 8th overall?

Good

[krsmith17 7,191]

9 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

So would you take Hossa's contract in exchange for 8th overall?

If we could fit it under the cap, absolutely. Unfortunately, I don't see that as a possibility for Detroit. 

[amato 3,210]

If the rangers are serious about a rebuild, I could see them being all over taking Hossa and the 8th pick.... they have all kinds of cap space and then they'd have picks 8, 9, 26, 28, 39, & 48 this year. 

[LeftWinger 4,936]

7 hours ago, krsmith17 said:

If we could fit it under the cap, absolutely. Unfortunately, I don't see that as a possibility for Detroit. 

Actually it is a possibility. The cap is rumored to be upwards of $82M this season. If we deal some of our own cap away at the draft, we can most definitely fit his cap hit under. Plus, if he attempts to play, then can't, he goes on LTIR for us. We'd be fine.

If Chicago is willing to give away the #8 to a team that will take his contract, Holland has to call them!

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17 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Actually it is a possibility. The cap is rumored to be upwards of $82M this season. If we deal some of our own cap away at the draft, we can most definitely fit his cap hit under. Plus, if he attempts to play, then can't, he goes on LTIR for us. We'd be fine.

If Chicago is willing to give away the #8 to a team that will take his contract, Holland has to call them!

Not going to happen...

[LeftWinger 4,936]

Just now, krsmith17 said:

Not going to happen...

Honestly, we don't need to deal any cap away.  We have $17M right now, add Franzen's $3.9M, the possible increase to $82M, that is a total of $28M available.  No way re-singing Larkin, Mantha and Bertuzzi is going to suck all that cap up. Even if you add a UFA goalie and entertain the idea of re-signing Green. There plenty of room for his $5.275M hit. It is well worth it for the #8 overall. They're practically giving it away to a team who would alleviate them of Hossa. I say it's a no brainer.

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30 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Honestly, we don't need to deal any cap away.  We have $17M right now, add Franzen's $3.9M, the possible increase to $82M, that is a total of $28M available.  No way re-singing Larkin, Mantha and Bertuzzi is going to suck all that cap up. Even if you add a UFA goalie and entertain the idea of re-signing Green. There plenty of room for his $5.275M hit. It is well worth it for the #8 overall. They're practically giving it away to a team who would alleviate them of Hossa. I say it's a no brainer.

Was this even a reputable source reporting this? I highly doubt Bowman has any interest in giving up the 8th overall just to dump a contract. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it happen, I just don't see either sides being interested in such a deal.

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26 minutes ago, krsmith17 said:

Was this even a reputable source reporting this? I highly doubt Bowman has any interest in giving up the 8th overall just to dump a contract. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it happen, I just don't see either sides being interested in such a deal.

It's just been suggested around the internet that they may be willing to do that. I believe a writer for The Athletic had mentioned that they may be interested in offering the #8 to entice a team into taking Hossa. That's all I have to go by. I just merely suggested that if indeed they would be willing to offer the #8 to a team to take the cap away, Holland should be calling.

[paulwoodsfan 52]

"But right now, general manager Stan Bowman has the ability to dump Hossa's cap hit onto a budget team that is looking to get to the salary-cap floor without spending any actual money." 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is actual money owing to Hossa, is there not? It may come off the cap because of LTIR (if applicable for a team that is up against the cap), but the player still gets paid, does he not?

 

[amato 3,210]

20 minutes ago, paulwoodsfan said:

"But right now, general manager Stan Bowman has the ability to dump Hossa's cap hit onto a budget team that is looking to get to the salary-cap floor without spending any actual money." 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is actual money owing to Hossa, is there not? It may come off the cap because of LTIR (if applicable for a team that is up against the cap), but the player still gets paid, does he not?

 

Hossa’s cap hit is 5,275,000 for the next 3 years, but his actual salary is only 1 million per year. Meaning, a budget team could save the difference in actual money while putting the full hit toward the cap floor. They might even be able to void the payment since he won’t be actually playing.. not sure of the exact details on that. 

Also, I think the NHL decided that Hossa was ineligible for LTIR. Otherwise the Blackhawks would just put him on it and not bother trading him at all, let alone giving up a lot to do so. 

I’m sure they’ll want a mid 1st back if they’re really considering trading the 8th to get rid of Hossa’s contract anyway.. similar to when we got rid of Datsyuk’s. 

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[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

40 minutes ago, paulwoodsfan said:

"But right now, general manager Stan Bowman has the ability to dump Hossa's cap hit onto a budget team that is looking to get to the salary-cap floor without spending any actual money." 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is actual money owing to Hossa, is there not? It may come off the cap because of LTIR (if applicable for a team that is up against the cap), but the player still gets paid, does he not?

 

Yes. Hossa would still get paid his salary. What matters to a budget team is where the salary is coming from, and whether or not the player involved can be put on LTIR.

If Hossa cannot be put on LTIR, then the TEAM is on the hook for his salary. $1 million is less than 5+, but if you are a budget team, is it better to spend a mil on a guy for the next 3 years who can't play, or just spend the 5 mil and actually get something back?

The reason a team might want a contract like Pronger's for example, is because if the player goes onto LTIR, I believe that the player's salary is paid by INSURANCE, not the team. So the team is getting the cap hit without spending any actual money.

That is how I understand it anyway, please feel free to correct me if I am wrong anyone.

 

EDIT: FORGET ALL OF THIS>>>OOPS

https://www.fearthefin.com/2010/9/18/1697231/hockey-101-long-term-injury

Edited June 19, 2018 by Neomaxizoomdweebie

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1 hour ago, LeftWinger said:

It's just been suggested around the internet that they may be willing to do that. I believe a writer for The Athletic had mentioned that they may be interested in offering the #8 to entice a team into taking Hossa. That's all I have to go by. I just merely suggested that if indeed they would be willing to offer the #8 to a team to take the cap away, Holland should be calling.

No, it hasn't. 

They are willing to trade the 8th pick. They want to get rid of Hossa's contract. Those two things may happen in the same deal. But they are absolutely not going to give up the #8 just to dump Hossa. They'll still want a fair return.

Think back to Datsyuk. 16th for 20th + 53rd was a fair enough deal on it's own. All we really did to get rid of Datsyuk's hit was take back Vitale. 

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Hawks fans sharing all kinds of Hossa memories rn

They forget the only important season he ever played.