Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted July 2, 2017 thats a stupid contract , Kenny got 2 goalies for less than $10m .........................lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted July 2, 2017 So how long before Price is traded to Nashville? At least I think that's how things work when you sign a huge contract in Montreal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted July 2, 2017 At first I loved the deal because Price is clearly the best goalie in the league to me but now after thinking about it a little bit further, I'm starting to notice that in the salary cap era, I can't really think of a long term superstar deal that has worked out extremely well for teams but I can think of many situations down the road where contracts have handcuffed teams really bad. On the one side you get a player like Price locked up in his prime but by the end of his contract he'll be 37 years old so when does his level of play start to suffer? Every player is different obviously but I don't think it's crazy to say that it might be half way through the contract and then what? Plus, there's always a chance for injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted July 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, Never_Retire_Steve said: At first I loved the deal because Price is clearly the best goalie in the league to me but now after thinking about it a little bit further, I'm starting to notice that in the salary cap era, I can't really think of a long term superstar deal that has worked out extremely well for teams but I can think of many situations down the road where contracts have handcuffed teams really bad. On the one side you get a player like Price locked up in his prime but by the end of his contract he'll be 37 years old so when does his level of play start to suffer? Every player is different obviously but I don't think it's crazy to say that it might be half way through the contract and then what? Plus, there's always a chance for injury. Price turns 30 in August, and the deal kicks in next season. This deal will go until he is 39. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,959 Report post Posted July 2, 2017 13 minutes ago, kliq said: Price turns 30 in August, and the deal kicks in next season. This deal will go until he is 39. He ain't no Hasek, that's for sure. Can't wait to see Bobvrosky's next deal. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,959 Report post Posted July 2, 2017 Kusnetsov just got $7.8M per for his sub 60 point production. Tatar at $5.5M will be a steal. Also looking at that deal, Nyquist deal looks stellar compared. Maybe i am too hard on the lil fella. Who the hell is running Washington? They only have 9 feds and 5 D signed with only $4Mish left in cap space. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Kusnetsov just got $7.8M per for his sub 60 point production. Tatar at $5.5M will be a steal. Also looking at that deal, Nyquist deal looks stellar compared. Maybe i am too hard on the lil fella. Who the hell is running Washington? They only have 9 feds and 5 D signed with only $4Mish left in cap space. If you are looking at last year in a bubble sure, 2 seasons ago Kuznetsov had 77 points in 82 games. Last season I had him in fantasy lol, he had a really bad Oct/Nov, but then came on strong. Edited July 2, 2017 by kliq Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,959 Report post Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, kliq said: If you are looking at last year in a bubble sure, 2 seasons ago Kuznetsov had 77 points in 82 games. Last season I had him in fantasy lol, he had a really bad Oct/Nov, but then came on strong. Ya, I saw that, but the season before he had 37 points in 80. Maybe he becomes a PPG player, but I'd be pissed if Holland gave that contract out. I think a lot of us would. He has 8 years to prove it. The last 2 out of 3, IMO don't justify 8 yrs 7.8M... Edited July 3, 2017 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted July 3, 2017 Tarasenko's contract is looking pretty awesome now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted July 3, 2017 4 hours ago, kliq said: Price turns 30 in August, and the deal kicks in next season. This deal will go until he is 39. Right, it was an extension. Thanks for pointing that out... Not a huge fan based on that information. What do people think of the Marleau deal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted July 3, 2017 33 minutes ago, Never_Retire_Steve said: Right, it was an extension. Thanks for pointing that out... Not a huge fan based on that information. What do people think of the Marleau deal? I think that they grossly overpaid for Marleau, who at this point in his career is only declining and putting up less and less point-wise. Having said that, he'll be a great veteran to help along some of those kids and be a mentor for the next 3 years. It's just a really bad contract for a 38 year old declining forward. Of course, he had 27 goals last season, and I think he'll be playing on Matthews left wing so.... yeah. Haha, he may clean up. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,959 Report post Posted July 3, 2017 13 hours ago, LeftWinger said: Ya, I saw that, but the season before he had 37 points in 80. Maybe he becomes a PPG player, but I'd be pissed if Holland gave that contract out. I think a lot of us would. He has 8 years to prove it. The last 2 out of 3, IMO don't justify 8 yrs 7.8M... 13 hours ago, LeftWinger said: Kusnetsov just got $7.8M per for his sub 60 point production. Tatar at $5.5M will be a steal. Also looking at that deal, Nyquist deal looks stellar compared. Maybe i am too hard on the lil fella. Who the hell is running Washington? They only have 9 feds and 5 D signed with only $4Mish left in cap space. Not to quote myself, but they quickly traded Johanssen and now have $9.5M in cap space. Must be nice to have a GM that can clear cap when needed. Just dump E for a 7th man, someone will take him for that...or hell even future considerations. We need to open up more cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted July 3, 2017 21 hours ago, kliq said: Reading the Canadiens message board right now and fans are pissed at this contract lol http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=2366419&page=4 (to mods, my apologies if I am not allowed to post this) In today's league, there's no reason to give that much money to any goalie. That gives a team less money to spend elsewhere. Montreal has been lacking in talent at the forward position for about 25 years. That's why they haven't won a Cup in so long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 792 Report post Posted July 3, 2017 Alex Radulov signs with the Dallas Stars on a five-year, $31.25 million contract Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted July 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, hillbillywingsfan said: Alex Radulov signs with the Dallas Stars on a five-year, $31.25 million contract Not surprised at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted July 3, 2017 11 hours ago, SwedeLundin77 said: I think that they grossly overpaid for Marleau, who at this point in his career is only declining and putting up less and less point-wise. Having said that, he'll be a great veteran to help along some of those kids and be a mentor for the next 3 years. It's just a really bad contract for a 38 year old declining forward. Of course, he had 27 goals last season, and I think he'll be playing on Matthews left wing so.... yeah. Haha, he may clean up. Not a huge fan of the Marleau contract for reasons you pointed out but I actually believe that he is probably best fit in a team like Toronto as he's still a very good player and Toronto has a very bright future. I think that's a decent deal for Dallas. Looks like their plan hasn't changed much in the past 3-5 and will simply look to win every game 6-5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted July 3, 2017 From what I can tell Toronto is over the cap as well. Man, I went to cap friendly and tried to put together a team that I think we could reasonably ice this season and after July 1 it's really hard to try and move guys since so many teams have made signings/trade. Probably should've played around with it beforehand to see what it may have potentially looked like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,959 Report post Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) Dallas loading up...must be nice to not have a lot of mediocre players taking up most of your cap space. Edited July 3, 2017 by LeftWinger 1 mackel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted July 3, 2017 3 hours ago, LeftWinger said: Not to quote myself, but they quickly traded Johanssen and now have $9.5M in cap space. Must be nice to have a GM that can clear cap when needed. Just dump E for a 7th man, someone will take him for that...or hell even future considerations. We need to open up more cap. I would say that Johanssen and Nyquist are similar in value. Would anyone trade Nyquist for a 2nd and 3rd round pick? This isn't directed at you Lefty, because I already know your answer. Asking those that don't hate Nyquist (for some inexplicable reason). I don't think I'd do it, unless it was the difference in being able to re-sign a Larkin or Mantha. I would hope though that there would be better ways to shed the cap space. In other words, I think New Jersey benefitted from Washington's cap crunch and won this trade. 2 kliq and LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,959 Report post Posted July 3, 2017 Too bad when were in a cap crunch, we can't dump cap. If we were in a cap crunch I'd trade Nyquist, Howard, Ericsson, Helm all for 2nd and 3rds. I hope Holland does. All 4 are replaceable. In order to save cap, I'd trade Tatar for a 2nd and 3rd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 3, 2017 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,959 Report post Posted July 3, 2017 So I guess they basically traded Hemsky for Radulov... 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted July 3, 2017 Wouldn't mind seeing Dallas go hard after Kovalchuk. Would be one of the most potent top six', in the entire league... Benn - Spezza - Seguin Radulov - Hanzal - Kovalchuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, F.Michael said: Yeah - looks like Lamoriello really screwed the pooch this past weekend. Hainsey - lol. Marleau - lol. Tied up a lot of $$$ on guys who are likely not gonna contribute much. Lamoriello can't hear you. He's got his two Stanley Cup rings plugged into his ears.................and a third up his arse. 2 F.Michael and Keep Your Stick On the Ice reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 681 Report post Posted July 3, 2017 I wonder if Kenny has talked to Jagr yet? 4 years 16 million? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
