Michael Rasmussen

[Richdg 267]

On 1/5/2018 at 8:26 PM, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

You can pull a #1 C anywhere in the draft, but the chances of that plummet after the top 5 picks

Yes the % goes down, but that is yet to be seen. For whatever reason the second round is where you get a ton of great Dmen. As always the draft is a crap shoot. Lets wait for him to play a few seasons in detroit before we put him in the HOF or call him a bust. If he becomes a #1c or a #2c or a #1 f does it really matter? Nope. We need him to become a 25 goal + per year player. I dont care if it is as a winger or center or if its on the top line or second line.

 

BTW at the time of the injury Rasmussen had played 22 games and had 16 goals and 31 points. Just for a reference Tippett had also played 22 games and had 14 goals and 31 points. Point is same production.

[Richdg 267]

Was wondering how things were going for Ras vs. Tippett vs. Vilardi-the 2 keys many said we needed over Ras. To date here are the stats:

Rasmussen 32 games 24 goals which is .75 goals per game and 25 assists

Tippett 43 games 29 goals which is .67 goals per game and 32 assists

Vilardi 23 games 14 goals which is .61 goals per game and 29 assists.

All have missed games for one reason or another. Rasmuusen and Vilardi for surgery/injuries and Tippet started in the NHL. None are dominating their league but are playing well. Really not much that seperates them at the Junior level.

[krsmith17 7,191]

22 minutes ago, Richdg said:

Was wondering how things were going for Ras vs. Tippett vs. Vilardi-the 2 keys many said we needed over Ras. To date here are the stats:

Rasmussen 32 games 24 goals which is .75 goals per game and 25 assists

Tippett 43 games 29 goals which is .67 goals per game and 32 assists

Vilardi 23 games 14 goals which is .61 goals per game and 29 assists.

All have missed games for one reason or another. Rasmuusen and Vilardi for surgery/injuries and Tippet started in the NHL. None are dominating their league but are playing well. Really not much that seperates them at the Junior level.

Why are you judging them only on goals per game? Why not points per game? Because it's clear that Vilardi is far and away the best point producer. 

Rasmussen - 1.29 points per game (24th in the WHL)

Tippett - 1.42 points per game (12th in the OHL)

Vilardi - 1.87 points per game (2nd in the OHL)

I can understand judging pure goal scoring wingers (like Tippett) on goals per game, but centers should always be judged more on assists and total points, not goals...

Vilardi is and has been the better player at the junior level, and I think he will be at the pro level as well. I hope I'm wrong... I'm really rooting for Big Ras, but his production thus far at the junior level has been pretty underwhelming. I was hoping he'd finish this season at, or close to 2 points per game. Unfortunately, he's nowhere close to that...

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

On 1/7/2018 at 4:51 PM, Richdg said:

Yes the % goes down, but that is yet to be seen. For whatever reason the second round is where you get a ton of great Dmen. As always the draft is a crap shoot. Lets wait for him to play a few seasons in detroit before we put him in the HOF or call him a bust. If he becomes a #1c or a #2c or a #1 f does it really matter? Nope. We need him to become a 25 goal + per year player. I dont care if it is as a winger or center or if its on the top line or second line.

 

BTW at the time of the injury Rasmussen had played 22 games and had 16 goals and 31 points. Just for a reference Tippett had also played 22 games and had 14 goals and 31 points. Point is same production.

I stopped reading after this first sentence lol

6 hours ago, Richdg said:

Was wondering how things were going for Ras vs. Tippett vs. Vilardi-the 2 keys many said we needed over Ras. To date here are the stats:

Rasmussen 32 games 24 goals which is .75 goals per game and 25 assists

Tippett 43 games 29 goals which is .67 goals per game and 32 assists

Vilardi 23 games 14 goals which is .61 goals per game and 29 assists.

All have missed games for one reason or another. Rasmuusen and Vilardi for surgery/injuries and Tippet started in the NHL. None are dominating their league but are playing well. Really not much that seperates them at the Junior level.

Oh boy, more numbers which are probably wrong based on your history. Don't even care to dig anymore. Wrong.

[krsmith17 7,191]

4 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

I stopped reading after this first sentence lol

Oh boy, more numbers which are probably wrong based on your history. Don't even care to dig anymore. Wrong.

S*** man, I didn't even bother to check the numbers because I think the whole premise of judging their goal totals, rather than point totals was dumb to begin with... But you're right, more wrong numbers from Richdg. Does he really try that hard to support his argument with incorrect information, or is he dyslexic?...

10 hours ago, Richdg said:

Rasmussen 32 38 games 24 goals which is .75 .63 goals per game and 25 assists. WRONG

Tippett 43 games 29 30 goals which is .67 .70 goals per game and 32 assists. WRONG

Vilardi 23 games 14 goals which is .61 goals per game and 29 assists. CORRECT

Not surprisingly, the goal scoring winger has the best goals per game, while the two centers are about even. However Vilardi's assists per game are MUCH higher at 1.26 vs Rasmussen at 0.66. Almost double...

Rich, no one is going to take you seriously with these arguments, especially if you can't provide accurate information. One number f***ed up and it would slide, but 3 our of 6 (all of which improved your stance) is a little hard to believe it was just a f*** up... What site do you use for these stats? If you're using anything other than the actual CHL (WHL, OHL, QMJHL) websites, or eliteprospects, that's your first mistake...

[marcaractac 3,962]

13 hours ago, krsmith17 said:

Why are you judging them only on goals per game? Why not points per game? Because it's clear that Vilardi is far and away the best point producer. 

Rasmussen - 1.29 points per game (24th in the WHL)

Tippett - 1.42 points per game (12th in the OHL)

Vilardi - 1.87 points per game (2nd in the OHL)

I can understand judging pure goal scoring wingers (like Tippett) on goals per game, but centers should always be judged more on assists and total points, not goals...

Vilardi is and has been the better player at the junior level, and I think he will be at the pro level as well. I hope I'm wrong... I'm really rooting for Big Ras, but his production thus far at the junior level has been pretty underwhelming. I was hoping he'd finish this season at, or close to 2 points per game. Unfortunately, he's nowhere close to that...

But he's tall!!!!!!!

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

On 3/1/2018 at 4:00 AM, krsmith17 said:

S*** man, I didn't even bother to check the numbers because I think the whole premise of judging their goal totals, rather than point totals was dumb to begin with... But you're right, more wrong numbers from Richdg. Does he really try that hard to support his argument with incorrect information, or is he dyslexic?...

Not surprisingly, the goal scoring winger has the best goals per game, while the two centers are about even. However Vilardi's assists per game are MUCH higher at 1.26 vs Rasmussen at 0.66. Almost double...

Rich, no one is going to take you seriously with these arguments, especially if you can't provide accurate information. One number f***ed up and it would slide, but 3 our of 6 (all of which improved your stance) is a little hard to believe it was just a f*** up... What site do you use for these stats? If you're using anything other than the actual CHL (WHL, OHL, QMJHL) websites, or eliteprospects, that's your first mistake...

I don't even mean this as an insult, but he's legitimately just incapable of understanding. Every time I go over numbers with him he just blatantly doesn't understand how they're recorded or how to interpret them. High school level stuff.

My point is, I don't think he has any ill will, or is trolling. He literally just ignorantly posts wrong stats.

The interesting part is he always extrapolates big "conclusions" from these stats. It's like watching a monkey try to ride a horse.

[LoveMyRedWings56 73]

First playoff game for Michael Rasmussen and the Tri-City Americans and Rasmussen with 2 goals and 1 assist for 3 points go Rasmussen light it up there.

[BinMucker94 302]

On 3/23/2018 at 11:04 AM, LoveMyRedWings56 said:

First playoff game for Michael Rasmussen and the Tri-City Americans and Rasmussen with 2 goals and 1 assist for 3 points go Rasmussen light it up there.

Had 4 points in game 2. 2 goals and 2 assists. I hope he continues this pace through the playoffs. This is the scoring pace that everyone wants to see from a giant playing amongst children.

[krsmith17 7,191]

21 minutes ago, BinMucker94 said:

Had 4 points in game 2. 2 goals and 2 assists. I hope he continues this pace through the playoffs. This is the scoring pace that everyone wants to see from a giant playing amongst children.

No way he continues his current pace (3.5 points per game), but I'd be happy if he can keep it around 2 PPG throughout the playoffs. He had a less than stellar regular season. He needs to make up for it with a monster playoffs.

[LoveMyRedWings56 73]

7 hours ago, BinMucker94 said:

Had 4 points in game 2. 2 goals and 2 assists. I hope he continues this pace through the playoffs. This is the scoring pace that everyone wants to see from a giant playing amongst children.

Yup 4 Goals 3 Assists for 7 Points in 2 games for Razzy. Hope he keeps that pace up the kid is going to be a good one here in the near future.

[Dabura 12,207]

5 goals and 7 assists through four games. Americans sweep the Rockets.

I'm gonna be mad if Rasmussen doesn't make the team out of camp next season. I don't think spending another season in the WHL is going to do much for his development. Could even hurt his development. He needs to be playing with and against grown men.

[BinMucker94 302]

3 hours ago, Dabura said:

5 goals and 7 assists through four games. Americans sweep the Rockets.

I'm gonna be mad if Rasmussen doesn't make the team out of camp next season. I don't think spending another season in the WHL is going to do much for his development. Could even hurt his development. He needs to be playing with and against grown men.

I’m starting to think he should make the team as well. I guess we’ll see how he does the rest of the playoffs and in training camp. He still needs to work his ass off and prove he should be on the roster. 

I honestly think that he may have played it safe during the regular season with the wrist injury and all. Then once playoffs hit he stepped his game up. Funs over time to dominate.

[Dabura 12,207]

4 hours ago, BinMucker94 said:

I’m starting to think he should make the team as well. I guess we’ll see how he does the rest of the playoffs and in training camp. He still needs to work his ass off and prove he should be on the roster. 

I honestly think that he may have played it safe during the regular season with the wrist injury and all. Then once playoffs hit he stepped his game up. Funs over time to dominate.

I could be in the minority on this, but I'm perfectly fine with the numbers he's put up this season. One reason: the two wrist injuries he's had to come back from, like you mentioned. Another reason, which I've talked about before: we drafted him with the understanding that he's sort of a power play specialist -- i.e. not a pure scorer (Mantha) or a dynamic two-way center (Larkin), i.e. not necessarily someone we should be expecting to put up ridiculous numbers at this time or at any point in the future. (And, indeed, this is why I and others were unhappy with the decision to take him at 9th overall.) Kind of like Franzen, who people had pegged as an unremarkable 3C when we drafted him and who didn't become a true scorer at the NHL level until his third or fourth season.

I suspect Rasmussen could be one of those players whose production (or lack thereof) very much depends on the talent level of the team he's playing for and the specific players he's playing with. We're arguably seeing that with Hicketts right now -- disappointing AHL season (at least from a production standpoint), but he's putting up points as a Red Wing and making our team better and helping us win games. Granted, the Wings aren't stacked with really high-end talent, but I think there's a fit there between player and team that would be beneficial for both parties, starting next season.

He still has to earn it in camp, though. Totally agree.

[krsmith17 7,191]

Rasmussen continues to torch the WHL playoffs with 19 points (9 goals, 10 assists) in 6 games. This is the sort of production I was hoping to see out of him all season. He's really starting to show that he was worthy of that top 10 pick.

Tri-City swept Kelowna in the first round, and are up 2-0 on Victoria in the second round. They look like they may go on a deep run, which is great, but I also want to see them knocked out, so Ras can help the Griffins go on a deep run...

This will likely be the only time Rasmussen gets a chance to play in the AHL. If he continues to dominate the WHL playoffs, and impresses in the AHL playoffs, has a good summer / training camp, he will likely make the Red Wings full time next season. It's either another year of junior or NHL for him next season, he cannot play in the AHL (except when the WHL season is officially over).

[RightWeiner 17]

This kid is going to be a monster for us. Can't wait to see people eat crow.

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

13 hours ago, RightWeiner said:

This kid is going to be a monster for us. Can't wait to see people eat crow.

Bingo Bango

Remember how many jimmies got rustled when we scooped up Tyler Bertuzzi slightly early (early according to our local keyboard warriors)? Caw caw mother fudgers

Can't wait till Ras starts exploding and I can go back through the draft day thread. Everyone sperged out hard about the pick in that thread lol

[marcaractac 3,962]

8 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Bingo Bango

Remember how many jimmies got rustled when we scooped up Tyler Bertuzzi slightly early (early according to our local keyboard warriors)? Caw caw mother fudgers

Can't wait till Ras starts exploding and I can go back through the draft day thread. Everyone sperged out hard about the pick in that thread lol

I think he'll be a great winger. I'm just not sold on him as an NHL center. I'd love to be wrong, however.

[robb himself 143]

On 6/26/2017 at 8:17 AM, robb himself said:

I cant wait for everyone to eat crow on this kid.

Since Day 1

[Dabura 12,207]

On 3/31/2018 at 6:02 PM, Dabura said:

we drafted him with the understanding that he's sort of a power play specialist -- i.e. not a pure scorer (Mantha) or a dynamic two-way center (Larkin), i.e. not necessarily someone we should be expecting to put up ridiculous numbers at this time or at any point in the future.

http://whl.ca/article/americans-rasmussen-named-whl-on-the-run-player-of-the-week

Calgary, Alta. – The Western Hockey League announced today that Tri-City Americans captain Michael Rasmussen has been named the WHL On the Run Player of the Week for the week ending April 8, 2018.

Rasmussen, who was selected by the Detroit Red Wings in the first round, ninth overall, of the 2017 NHL Draft, registered seven points (4G-3A) and a plus-five rating in two games as the Americans took a commanding 2-0 lead in their best-of-seven Round Two series against the Victoria Royals in the 2018 WHL Playoffs.

In the series-opening game Friday, Rasmussen had a goal and three points as his team won by a 7-0 result. The Surrey, B.C. product scored the opening goal of the game, having it stand up as the game-winner. He also picked up a primary assist on the insurance goal and a power play assist later in the game. He led a sweep of the three stars of the game and was also named the first star of the night across the WHL.

A night later, Rasmussen recorded the first hat trick of his WHL Playoffs career in a 4-1 win for the Americans. Rasmussen scored the first, second, and fourth goals for the Americans, once again picking up the game-winning goal. He also had a primary assist on Morgan Geekie’s third period goal to factor into all four of the Americans’ goals. Rasmussen once again earned first star honours of the game and across the WHL for the evening.

Overall, Rasmussen finished with five points (3G-2A) at even strength and two points (1G-1A) on the power play. The first two games have been a continuation of Rasmussen’s successful voyage into the 2018 WHL Playoffs. Through six games this post-season, the 6-foot-6, 221-pound forward has 19 points (9G-10A), featuring four power-play goals and a pair of game-winning goals.

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Michael Rasmussen exists to make me look stupid. I am ok with this.

[Dabura 12,207]

1 goal, 3 assists in the Americans' Game 3 win.

10 goals, 13 assists through 7 games.

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

On 4/11/2018 at 9:04 AM, Dabura said:

1 goal, 3 assists in the Americans' Game 3 win.

10 goals, 13 assists through 7 games.

[Dabura 12,207]

14 goals, 15 assists, 29 points through 11 playoff games.

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

10 hours ago, Dabura said:

14 goals, 15 assists, 29 points through 11 playoff games.

[Dabura 12,207]

15 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

He's way op. Blizzard's gonna have to nerf him.