ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted July 26, 2017 9 minutes ago, marcaractac said: Second season with a starters workload, however. Ok, let's go with that People moaned and griped about Howard that season, deservedly so. Now I'm griping about Mrazek... deservedly so? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted July 26, 2017 23 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Ok, let's go with that People moaned and griped about Howard that season, deservedly so. Now I'm griping about Mrazek... deservedly so? Absolutely. The criticism is warranted, but not reason to give up on the kid. That's my only point here. And I'm not saying you want him gone, but I know there are some that do, which is crazy to me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,962 Report post Posted July 26, 2017 (edited) 38 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Ok, let's go with that People moaned and griped about Howard that season, deservedly so. Now I'm griping about Mrazek... deservedly so? Quite frankly what I said has nothing to do about whether you gripe about Mrazek or not. I simply don't care. My point was that I think it's more likely that Mrazek rebounds than not. Not to make another Howard vs Mrazek pissing contest. Edited July 26, 2017 by marcaractac 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted July 26, 2017 9 minutes ago, marcaractac said: Quite frankly what I said has nothing to do about whether you gripe about Mrazek or not. I simply don't care. My point was that I think it's more likely that Mrazek rebounds than not. Not to make another Howard vs Mrazek pissing contest. He can't do much worse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THATANK911 17 Report post Posted July 28, 2017 I was just having a laugh bud. Twitch out all he wants, plays like he did last year and he can twitch someone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted October 23, 2017 The golden boy and future of our franchise, who we mistakenly exposed and Vegas mistakenly passed on during the expansion draft, has a save percentage of 0.898 since 2/14/16 (70 games played) When's the Vezina coming? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted October 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: The golden boy and future of our franchise, who we mistakenly exposed and Vegas mistakenly passed on during the expansion draft, has a save percentage of 0.898 since 2/14/16 (70 games played) When's the Vezina coming? Well he worked with a goaltending coach in the offseason and I thought he looked pretty good against the Caps a few nights ago. Seriously, how many point blank open shots were we going to give to Ovechkin before it finally went into the net? I don't think he'll ever win a Vezina and he has a long way to go before being a legit #1 goalie, but he's shown "some" improvement. 2 PavelValerievichDatsyuk and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted October 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, xtrememachine1 said: Well he worked with a goaltending coach in the offseason and I thought he looked pretty good against the Caps a few nights ago. Seriously, how many point blank open shots were we going to give to Ovechkin before it finally went into the net? I don't think he'll ever win a Vezina and he has a long way to go before being a legit #1 goalie, but he's shown "some" improvement. Whoa, don't you know he had a Vezina caliber season one time? Hasek was a late bloomer too. Also, Jimmy was hurt last season. That makes Mrazek good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted October 23, 2017 42 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: The golden boy and future of our franchise, who we mistakenly exposed and Vegas mistakenly passed on during the expansion draft, has a save percentage of 0.898 since 2/14/16 (70 games played) When's the Vezina coming? Give him a few years. I believe he will do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Hockeymom1960 said: Give him a few years. I believe he will do it. A few years? I thought we were ready to trade Howard already back in 2014? Edited October 23, 2017 by ChristopherReevesLegs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BinMucker94 302 Report post Posted October 23, 2017 Trade them both and tank! We need to upgrade the defense so badly that it doesn’t even matter who is in net at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted October 23, 2017 they have 2 mediocre goalies. One old, one young. That's not changing anytime soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted October 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, DickieDunn said: they have 2 mediocre goalies. One old, one young. That's not changing anytime soon. One of those goalies has a .920% (top 10 among starters) save percentage and one has a .898% (worst in the league among starters) since 2/14/2016. But yeah, f*** it, they're the same. 1 xtrememachine1 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted October 23, 2017 37 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: One of those goalies has a .920% (top 10 among starters) save percentage and one has a .898% (worst in the league among starters) since 2/14/2016. But yeah, f*** it, they're the same. Agreed. He's really good when he's healthy and gets regular starts. http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2017/08/red_wings_outlook_jimmy_howard_2.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BinMucker94 302 Report post Posted October 23, 2017 Quick trade a goalie to Vegas. They currently have zero goalies due to injuries. 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, BinMucker94 said: Quick trade a goalie to Vegas. They currently have zero goalies due to injuries. I'd trade either for Shea Theodore without thinking twice. 2 LeftWinger and BinMucker94 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted October 23, 2017 I don't know if anyone's heard, but Mrazek had a s***ty year last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted October 23, 2017 2 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: One of those goalies has a .920% (top 10 among starters) save percentage and one has a .898% (worst in the league among starters) since 2/14/2016. But yeah, f*** it, they're the same. And the goalie war has begun for the year! Career numbers: Jimmy: SV%: .916 GAA: 2.44 Mraz: SV%: .913 GAA: 2.58 Very similar To me, they've both looked good this year. Howard has had the much better "on" games, but also the bigger "off" games. If he shakes off the past 2 rough games then he's undoubtably winning the battle for #1. We'll see. Mrazek has continued with being pretty solid (improved to me) but still has one head-scratcher goal per game it seems. When the game is under-pressure he seems to revert to sprawling Petr and takes himself out of the net or just checks out for a minute for a fluke goal. Hope he figures that out. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted October 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, PavelValerievichDatsyuk said: And the goalie war has begun for the year! Career numbers: Jimmy: SV%: .916 GAA: 2.44 Mraz: SV%: .913 GAA: 2.58 Very similar To me, they've both looked good this year. Howard has had the much better "on" games, but also the bigger "off" games. If he shakes off the past 2 rough games then he's undoubtably winning the battle for #1. We'll see. Mrazek has continued with being pretty solid (improved to me) but still has one head-scratcher goal per game it seems. When the game is under-pressure he seems to revert to sprawling Petr and takes himself out of the net or just checks out for a minute for a fluke goal. Hope he figures that out. I'm interested to see what happens to Mrazek after this year. He's RFA, and Jimmy will have one year left on his deal. There will be lots of tinder for a goalie flame war. 1 PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ami 273 Report post Posted October 23, 2017 hey, cheer up. just look at MTL and Carey Priceless ... 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted October 24, 2017 22 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: One of those goalies has a .920% (top 10 among starters) save percentage and one has a .898% (worst in the league among starters) since 2/14/2016. But yeah, f*** it, they're the same. he can't stay healthy, he can't be counted on, that makes him mediocre Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted October 24, 2017 40 minutes ago, DickieDunn said: he can't stay healthy, he can't be counted on, that makes him mediocre The majority of his career he has played full seasons. Last two seasons he has suffered injuries. Let me just ask, is Zetterberg mediocre because he has back issues? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,949 Report post Posted October 24, 2017 21 hours ago, krsmith17 said: I'd trade either for Shea Theodore without thinking twice. Abso - ******* - lutely! 1 for 1, or maybe Mrazek and Montreal's 6th for Theodore! 21 hours ago, BinMucker94 said: Quick trade a goalie to Vegas. They currently have zero goalies due to injuries. I was just going to post this! They don't have the cap room at the moment, but Stoner is STILL on the IR and part of his cap could be used as the difference if they chose to LTIR him. The only reason he isn't on it already is they don't need the cap relief. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,949 Report post Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) Having Howard and Coreau would probably help us in our pursuit of Dahlin/Svech. (although I believe we need Dahlin more!) Imagine this in two years: Theodore - Dahlin Cholowski - Hicketts Daley - DD Jensen/XO (if re-signed) We still have Hronek, Sarajaarvi and Sulak in the minors (Europe) that can come in when DD and Daley contracts end. I'd gladly give Mrazek away and allow him to mature in Vegas! Especialy for Theodore in return! And BTW, Yes I am hoping we get to draft a Swedish defenseman! (although at the moment he is only 165lbs. but that will change!) Edited October 24, 2017 by LeftWinger 1 BadgerBob reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted October 25, 2017 13 hours ago, DickieDunn said: he can't stay healthy, he can't be counted on, that makes him mediocre You're really taking liberties with your definitions huh. Howard is not "mediocre" because he is injury prone, he is "injury prone" because he is injury prone. You can't just change the meaning of words so something fits your narrative. With your logic, back when Crosby was dealing with his concussion issues, he could be labeled as "mediocre". 2 1 ChristopherReevesLegs, PavelValerievichDatsyuk and Son of a Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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