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1 hour ago, DickieDunn said:

Is that 1546 individual members on-line, or does that count multiple visits?  And how many were sock puppet accounts?

And does it really count if half of them were Bill/Axe/Jonas/Mindfly etc. etc. etc.

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2 hours ago, DickieDunn said:

Is that 1546 individual members on-line, or does that count multiple visits?  And how many were sock puppet accounts?

It's individual members online. Makes sense. 2007 Red Wings were probably the most popular team in North America at the time. 

I used to be an active member of hockeyfights.com in 2007 and they would easily have thousand members online at once as well. And Red Wings were the most talked about team even there (even though we didn't really have many fighters). 

Now, hockeyfights.com is dead and so are most other hockeyforums in general. It's all about twitter, instagram and facebook now to be honest. Follow the Wings there and you'll find people arguing over stuff every time someone posts a picture. 

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I like Twitter, but Facebook and Instagram along with Snapchat are for wives looking to relive their high school days and hook up with old boyfriends. It makes them act like pre-teen little girls. 

Anyhow, I'll never leave here, even when AA is not signed and I quit watching games until Holland is gone, I'll still be here cursing his name for the many atrocities he has committed. 

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13 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

 

Anyhow, I'll never leave here, even when AA is not signed and I quit watching games until Holland is gone, I'll still be here cursing his name for the many atrocities he has committed. 

I like ot when you do that.  Holland is a dolt.

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11 hours ago, DickieDunn said:

Is that 1546 individual members on-line, or does that count multiple visits?  And how many were sock puppet accounts?

I think it refers to individual members online. on your other question ...who knows

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17 hours ago, kickazz said:

It's individual members online. Makes sense. 2007 Red Wings were probably the most popular team in North America at the time. 

I used to be an active member of hockeyfights.com in 2007 and they would easily have thousand members online at once as well. And Red Wings were the most talked about team even there (even though we didn't really have many fighters). 

Now, hockeyfights.com is dead and so are most other hockeyforums in general. It's all about twitter, instagram and facebook now to be honest. Follow the Wings there and you'll find people arguing over stuff every time someone posts a picture. 

2007 was a great year on the forums. The Brad Norton experiment, the rise of Pain Train, the beginnings of Hasek vs Osgood wars, and then getting the cup in 08 after losing to the Ducks in 07. Lots of highs and lows :lol:

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15 hours ago, Detroit # 1 Fan said:

2007 was a great year on the forums. The Brad Norton experiment, the rise of Pain Train, the beginnings of Hasek vs Osgood wars, and then getting the cup in 08 after losing to the Ducks in 07. Lots of highs and lows :lol:

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16 hours ago, Detroit # 1 Fan said:

2007 was a great year on the forums. The Brad Norton experiment, the rise of Pain Train, the beginnings of Hasek vs Osgood wars, and then getting the cup in 08 after losing to the Ducks in 07. Lots of highs and lows :lol:

Don't forget sirdrake. We can never forget sirdrake. 

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It's a broken record when all people talk about is Holland. 

How about some threads about pro-fighting vs non-fighting. Hasek vs. Roy, 2005 Legace vs Osgood, twilight years Datsyuk vs Zetterberg, Avery turtle vs Lemieux turtle

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1 hour ago, kickazz said:

It's a broken record when all people talk about is Holland. 

How about some threads about pro-fighting vs non-fighting. Hasek vs. Roy, 2005 Legace vs Osgood, twilight years Datsyuk vs Zetterberg, Avery turtle vs Lemieux turtle

Unfortunately, Holland's bad handling of the team, including AA, have us discussing his imcompetence far too often.

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1 hour ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

Unfortunately, Holland's bad handling of the team, including AA, have us discussing his imcompetence far too often.

Much of that blame deserves to be spread around. But that's not the easy/simple thing to do. Everyone loves a scapegoat. 

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10 hours ago, Son of a Wing said:

Much of that blame deserves to be spread around. But that's not the easy/simple thing to do. Everyone loves a scapegoat. 

You're right to a point.  Poor coaching and sub par scouting, both amateur and professional, have also been issues, but Holland is the one in charge of making those staffing decisions, so it ultimately falls on him.

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15 hours ago, kickazz said:

It's a broken record when all people talk about is Holland. 

How about some threads about pro-fighting vs non-fighting. Hasek vs. Roy, 2005 Legace vs Osgood, twilight years Datsyuk vs Zetterberg, Avery turtle vs Lemieux turtle

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Wow pages upon pages for a guy who has insane speed but lacks defensive ability and doesn't seem to be a low maintenance type of player and who experts project as a 3rd line center. I' not saying AA is wrong here it' not his job to manage or help out with the cap. If AA and his camp think they are worth more and the Wings aren' willing or able to offer it ask for a trade publicly. Otherwise sign a KHL contract play in the Olympics and increase your value further. 

I believe getting fixated on any current player is a mistake because next year when the real rebuild starts a new core needs to be build, vets on ltir... 

Wheter AA stays or goes has no impact on that but of course it would reflect poorly on the organization from top to botttom because it would show a lack of long-term thinking in terms of signings and cap management 

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6 hours ago, frankgrimes said:

Wow pages upon pages for a guy who has insane speed but lacks defensive ability and doesn't seem to be a low maintenance type of player and who experts project as a 3rd line center. I' not saying AA is wrong here it' not his job to manage or help out with the cap. If AA and his camp think they are worth more and the Wings aren' willing or able to offer it ask for a trade publicly. Otherwise sign a KHL contract play in the Olympics and increase your value further. 

I believe getting fixated on any current player is a mistake because next year when the real rebuild starts a new core needs to be build, vets on ltir... 

Wheter AA stays or goes has no impact on that but of course it would reflect poorly on the organization from top to botttom because it would show a lack of long-term thinking in terms of signings and cap management 

I guess this is assuming Holland is gone after this season?

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4 hours ago, krsmith17 said:

I guess this is assuming Holland is gone after this season?

Yes I think so. Chris is a smart guy he knows this seasons highlight is going to be draft and no GM is going to change that because the team has no cap space and no elite talent. So he will honor Holland's and Blashills contract but not extending them. Martin, Draper and a some scouts should also be evaluated of course it's just me rehashing the thoughts from the Wings Podcast but it makes a lot of sense. Maybe it's non sense and Chris is happy with status quo but that would spell doom for the Wings going forward especially given the Leafs like ticket prices while also accepting a basketball team into a hockey arena.. 

If AA really goes to the KHL that's smart he can increase his value and play in the Olympics 

 

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1 minute ago, frankgrimes said:

Yes I think so. Chris is a smart guy he knows this seasons highlight is going to be draft and no GM is going to change that because the team has no cap space and no elite talent. So he will honor Holland's and Blashills contract but not extending them. Martin, Draper and a some scouts should also be evaluated of course it's just me rehashing the thoughts from the Wings Podcast but it makes a lot of sense. 

If AA really goes to the KHL that's smart he can increase his value and play in the Olympics 

 

I'll be honest with you Frank, I think this is just wishful thinking from the anti-Holland crowd. Unless he steps down, I dont see Holland going anywhere. If Chri Illitch is trusting Al Avila in a re-build, he will surely trust Ken Holland.

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4 minutes ago, frankgrimes said:

Yes I think so. Chris is a smart guy he knows this seasons highlight is going to be draft and no GM is going to change that because the team has no cap space and no elite talent. So he will honor Holland's and Blashills contract but not extending them. Martin, Draper and a some scouts should also be evaluated of course it's just me rehashing the thoughts from the Wings Podcast but it makes a lot of sense. Maybe it's non sense and Chris is happy with status quo but that would spell doom for the Wings going forward especially given the Leafs like ticket prices while also accepting a basketball team into a hockey arena.. 

If AA really goes to the KHL that's smart he can increase his value and play in the Olympics 

 

Exactly.  Sign for 3 years, light up the khl with Datsyuk, and come back at age 27.  Buh bye, Holland.  He's going to be relegated to playing with Sheahan and Helm if he plays for the Wings, anyways.

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