Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted September 30, 2017 A couple of my choices are dependent on certain things happening, but this would be my preferred roster if all was well in Red Wing world. I'm going on what i think the front office will go with, against what most of us would like to see. Nyquist Zetterberg Tatar. Mantha Larkin Frk Helm Nielsen Athanasiou Abdelkader Sheahan Booth 13 Glendening Daley Jensen Green DeKeyser Ericsson Kronwall 7/8 Ouellet Witkowski Howard Mrazek Now i know that AA isn't signed and he'd need a few weeks to get back into game shape. So Abbey moves up to take his spot and Glendog goes back on the 4th line. Witkowski is then the spare Fwd. If Kronner is injured Ouellet moves into his spot and Sproul stays up as the 7th D. Jensen gets the top spot purely on his skating ability. I think we have a competitive roster that'll be there or there about's for the 7/8 playoff spot if they all play to their potential and we have alot of bounce back years from certain players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted September 30, 2017 Did Witowski play any games at forward this pre season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted September 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, joesuffP said: Did Witowski play any games at forward this pre season? Any games he's played, he's been forward (including tonight). He hasn't played any games on D, and likely won't. He was signed to play 4th line. Why? I have no idea. He's not good. I'd MUCH rather have Booth on the team over Witkowski... 2 PavelValerievichDatsyuk and marcaractac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted September 30, 2017 Tatar Zetterberg Nyquist Abdelkader Larkin Mantha Athanasiou Nielsen Helm Glendening Sheahan Frk DeKeyser Daley Ericsson Green Ouellet Jensen Howard Dunno if that works out, cap-wise. Too lazy to check. Not my ideal lineup, but I think it's realistic, given what we've seen in the preseason and what we know about how the organization does things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaWingsin071 4 Report post Posted October 1, 2017 I'd go. Tatar Zetterberg Nyquist Ras Larkin Mantha Athanasiou Nielsen Helm Abby Glenny Frk Green Daley Jensen Dekeyser Ouellet Hicketts Mraz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Looks like it will be... Tatar - Zetterberg - Nyquist Mantha - Larkin - Frk Abdelkader - Nielsen - Helm Booth - Sheahan - Glendening DeKeyser - Daley Ericsson - Green Ouellet - Jensen Howard Mrazek Can't believe Athanasiou still isn't signed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenrebellion 415 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Is it just me, or does this roster blow chunks on paper? I think we are worse than last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 We're also going to need to make some sort of move to get cap compliant, before the 12:00pm EST deadline tomorrow. We're currently $4,371,212 over the salary cap. Once Franzen ($3,954,545) is placed on LTIR, we will still be $416,667 over the cap. The likely move is Sproul gets waived (and undoubtedly claimed), but I'm selfishly hoping Kronwall ends up on LTIR along with Franzen... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, greenrebellion said: Is it just me, or does this roster blow chunks on paper? I think we are worse than last year. It does look pretty bad on paper, but that's to be expected for a team that should be rebuilding. I don't think it's worse than last season though. We basically replaced Smith with Daley, who should be an upgrade, and Miller with Booth, who is definitely an upgrade. Athanasiou missing hurts for sure, but I don't expect him to miss the whole season. Hopefully he signs pretty soon here... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Sproul and Booth placed on waivers today. F**** sake! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keep Your Stick On the Ice 67 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Source? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) Booth got signed to a 2 way contract. https://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2017/10/2/16400384/red-wings-sign-david-booth-to-a-one-year-two-way-contract Edited October 2, 2017 by kickazz 1 Keep Your Stick On the Ice reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 11 minutes ago, Keep Your Stick On the Ice said: Source? I got it from James Mirtle, retweeted by Pierre LeBrun, but Khan is tweeting just Sproul on waivers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) Yep Sproul is on waivers (as expected), Booth signed to a contract Edited October 2, 2017 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, kickazz said: Yep Sproul is on waivers (as expected), Booth signed to a contract Definitely expected, but the wrong move in my opinion. Regardless of what people think of Sproul as a player, to waive him over Witkowski is asinine. Oh well, I fully expected this, and I also expect him to be claimed tomorrow... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Yeah, I think we all knew Sproul was going to be waived. I don't think he'll get picked up since he didn't pass his physical for camp and been reading that him coming back from the knee surgery could take a while. In other news, Tootoo, Jurco, and Pulkinnen were waived. That's also not incredibly surprising, but the one aspect to this that's funny is that the Blackhawks protected Jurco in the expansion draft. Wonder if there's a way they could have protected TVR (who they lost) instead of Jurco. Probably not since you can't replace a F with a D in the 7/3/1 protected list format. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) Apparently the Blackhawks didn't use Jurco the right away either. Godam you Quenville and Bowman. You guys are worse than Holland and Babcock/Blashill... right? https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2017/10/2/16401590/tomas-jurco-waivers-blackhawks-roster-jordin-tootoo-2017 Edited October 2, 2017 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 14 minutes ago, kickazz said: Apparently the Blackhawks didn't use Jurco the right away either. Godam you Quenville and Bowman. You guys are worse than Holland and Babcock/Blashill... right? https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2017/10/2/16401590/tomas-jurco-waivers-blackhawks-roster-jordin-tootoo-2017 Not sure why I'm taking the bait again, but the only thing I will say is that confidence is extremely important in any sport, and it's a tough thing to build back up once it's taken a hit. Jurco is a bust. Would he have been a bust if drafted by a different team or handled differently? Of course you will say yes, but we'll never know for sure. The raw skill was definitely there, just didn't have the mental toughness to be a successful NHLer. 1 PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Not sure why I'm taking the bait again, but the only thing I will say is that confidence is extremely important in any sport, and it's a tough thing to build back up once it's taken a hit. Jurco is a bust. Would he have been a bust if drafted by a different team or handled differently? Of course you will say yes, but we'll never know for sure. The raw skill was definitely there, just didn't have the mental toughness to be a successful NHLer. I agree with some of this. Glad we got something in return for him though Edited October 2, 2017 by kickazz 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, kickazz said: I agree with some of this. Some as in the underlined portion?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 1 minute ago, krsmith17 said: Some as in the underlined portion?... You underestimate me. Probably because the way I post now is different than I did years ago. I agree about the mental toughness and raw skill. He is very skilled. But it takes more for the NHL. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoveMyRedWings56 73 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 2 hours ago, greenrebellion said: Is it just me, or does this roster blow chunks on paper? I think we are worse than last year. Yup that's a pretty horrendous lineup, Bottom 5 feeder team once again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 I forget the rules.. if a team successfully claims a player, can they be sent to that teams AHL affiliate? I wouldn’t mind Jurco back in GR (or pulk for that matter) as more of a veteran presence. Mostly it would just be funny as hell if we got a free pick from the hawks and still kept our player in the end Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, amato said: I forget the rules.. if a team successfully claims a player, can they be sent to that teams AHL affiliate? I wouldn’t mind Jurco back in GR (or pulk for that matter) as more of a veteran presence. Mostly it would just be funny as hell if we got a free pick from the hawks and still kept our player in the end Any player claimed has to stay on the big club for so many days (30?), before he can be sent through waivers again. Some process would apply again. That's how we got Frk back from the Canes last season. Something like that anyway... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 Just now, krsmith17 said: Any player claimed has to stay on the big club for so many days (30?), before he can be sent through waivers again. Some process would apply again. That's how we got Frk back from the Canes last season. Something like that anyway... Alright yeah, I figured it was something along those lines.. thanks. I hope Frk lights up the Canes if he’s still up by then 2 kickazz and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites