chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, kliq said: Well what do you expect, he ranked almost dead last in SP and GAA last year while Howard ranked right at the top with the same D. Of course it's not all his fault, but he's not helping. The same D, but if you want to get technical we can run over stats that show the D was even weaker in front of Mrazek. Found a nice write up about it a little while back. But I’m done with the whole goalie debate. Things are what they are. Just pointing out when your D gives away pucks like that, you can’t blame the goalie. But Howard would have stopped it I’m sure. He stops everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datterberg1340 626 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 1 minute ago, MabusIncarnate said: There is a glaringly bad problem and it's our D. Daley has been a nice surprise, so has Green. Jensen was a bright spot last year but he's buried on the bottom pair with Ouellet who has been bad. Kronwall looks okay, not a lot of mistakes. Ericsson remains the backbone of our terrible back end. I think with Howard in net, it's a 2-2 tie, but not faulting Mrazek for any of the 3 necessarily. 3rd goal was stoppable, but was also an unexpected shot to the corner and was well placed. Kenny's biggest failure since Nick retired for sure was never adequately re-building our D. Asking Kronner to be the new #1 was not fair or really possible for him, and still we're no closer to getting a legit #1 (not that it's easy to acquire one, but it seems he hasn't really tried very hard, outside of some hard tire kicking, that is) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 1 minute ago, chaps80 said: The same D, but if you want to get technical we can run over stats that show the D was even weaker in front of Mrazek. Found a nice write up about it a little while back. But I’m done with the whole goalie debate. Things are what they are. Just pointing out when your D gives away pucks like that, you can’t blame the goalie. But Howard would have stopped it I’m sure. He stops everything. Why can't you just admit mrazek was awful last year? We aren't talking Howard had a GAA of 2.30 while Mrazek was 2.40......it wasn't even close. 2 minutes ago, datterberg1340 said: Kenny's biggest failure since Nick retired for sure was never adequately re-building our D. Asking Kronner to be the new #1 was not fair or really possible for him, and still we're no closer to getting a legit #1 (not that it's easy to acquire one, but it seems he hasn't really tried very hard, outside of some hard tire kicking, that is) I guess that depends on what you think of Chowolski. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,344 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 Mantha!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Y19 2,482 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 Mantha! Great to be tied after all of this! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 Mantha!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Y19 2,482 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 Octopus in Sin City! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 3 Points for Z! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NerveDamage 4,176 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 Pi on the ice!!! 1 Y19 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,344 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 That kid was amped up to pick up the first Octopi off Vegas ice. You saw it in his face. That's hockey fan right there. Good on ya, kid. 2 datterberg1340 and TheXym reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datterberg1340 626 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, kliq said: Why can't you just admit mrazek was awful last year? We aren't talking Howard had a GAA of 2.30 while Mrazek was 2.40......it wasn't even close. I guess that depends on what you think of Chowolski. too early to tell, but I sure wouldn't mind him being the guy we need Go Mantha! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,344 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 And the gambling odds fall against us, PK immediately after. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 12 minutes ago, chaps80 said: The same D, but if you want to get technical we can run over stats that show the D was even weaker in front of Mrazek. Found a nice write up about it a little while back. But I’m done with the whole goalie debate. Things are what they are. Just pointing out when your D gives away pucks like that, you can’t blame the goalie. But Howard would have stopped it I’m sure. He stops everything. Just a bad excuse dude. Don't be such a homer lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Y19 2,482 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 What ... a ... freakin' ... GOAL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,344 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 14 minutes ago, chaps80 said: The same D, but if you want to get technical we can run over stats that show the D was even weaker in front of Mrazek. Found a nice write up about it a little while back. But I’m done with the whole goalie debate. Things are what they are. Just pointing out when your D gives away pucks like that, you can’t blame the goalie. But Howard would have stopped it I’m sure. He stops everything. Howard has a concept of positioning. Mraz doesn't. SCOOORRREEESS!! NIELSEN FROM Z! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Athanasioulater 21 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 Hank's a freak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 4 points for Z! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, datterberg1340 said: too early to tell, but I sure wouldn't mind him being the guy we need Go Mantha! 100% agree.....he's our best shot though. 1 datterberg1340 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datterberg1340 626 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 Henrik Zetterberg, Knight slayer extraordinaire 1 Y19 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Y19 2,482 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, datterberg1340 said: Henrik Zetterberg, Knight slayer extraordinaire Nice! Hank the Dragon! 1 datterberg1340 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 What a game by Z! 1 datterberg1340 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 1 minute ago, datterberg1340 said: Henrik Zetterberg, Knight slayer extraordinaire Someone needs to make a meme out of this. Zetterberg the Knight Slayer 3 datterberg1340, Y19 and TheXym reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kjw25 104 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 AA should watch Z play, he can learn a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, MabusIncarnate said: Howard has a concept of positioning. Mraz doesn't. SCOOORRREEESS!! NIELSEN FROM Z! I think what throws some people is that Mrazek is the better athlete, but that doesn't mean better goalie. 1 MabusIncarnate reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, kliq said: I think what throws some people is that Mrazek is the better athlete, but that doesn't mean better goalie. It's the concept of flash. People think flashier means better. Carey Price would say otherwise to Jonathan Quick. 1 kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
