krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) Ottawa receives a 1st round pick, Ian Cole and goalie prospect Gustavsson... Edited February 23, 2018 by krsmith17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Ottawa receives a 1st round pick, Ian Cole and goalie prospect Gustavsson... https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/967123628696338432 WTF? I cannot get these tweets to show up properly!!! Edited February 23, 2018 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 Quite a haul for Brassard. NHL Player, prospect AND a 1st round pick in 2018? Nice! Nyquist and Tatar have 10 and 11 points less, wonder what we could get now? I sure hope someone is interested! I know O and D are complete different apples, but could this bode well for the return on Mike Green? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 Reading on various Twitter accounts that OTT is flipping Cole back to the Metropolitan division. No teams named... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 26 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Quite a haul for Brassard. NHL Player, prospect AND a 1st round pick in 2018? Nice! Nyquist and Tatar have 10 and 11 points less, wonder what we could get now? I sure hope someone is interested! I know O and D are complete different apples, but could this bode well for the return on Mike Green? Center and wingers hold completely different value as well. I do think we could get a decent return for Nyquist / Tatar, but it wouldn't be anything close to the return for Brassard. My guess would be a 2nd round pick and a mid tier prospect... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 Quote “Again, you’re talking about three, four pieces [for McDonagh],” Dreger told TSN Radio 1050 Toronto. “And it’s always the standard first-round draft pick, top prospect, another pick, and this and that and all of those things. Now, it depends on the young pieces that a team is willing to throw in, so there’s negotiating on that end. If this is what they're talking for a return for McDonagh, then why are we talking that we should just expect 1 asset or a couple of lower round picks for Green? Green has 3 more points than McDonagh with the difference being McDonagh has one more year on his contract. So we don't get three or four pieces, but two for sure, starting with a 1st should not be a question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 Should trade Mike Green to Tampa for a first. Then send Tampa first and someone nyquist/Tatar rangers for McDonagh. I can't see him being Worth much more than that. Then re-sign green next year and your defense is looking much better 1 amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 TSN's Trade Bait Board The Top 45 Trend Player Pos Age Cap Hit GP G PTS Years Clause 1. Erik Karlsson, OTT RD 27 $6.5M 54 5 42 1 M-NTC 2. Rick Nash, NYR LW 33 $7.8M 60 18 28 UFA M-NTC 3. Mike Green, DET RD 32 $6M 57 6 29 UFA NTC 4. Derick Brassard, OTT C 30 $5M 58 18 36 1 M-NTC 5. Patrick Maroon, EDM LW 29 $1.5M 57 14 30 UFA 6. Evander Kane, BUF LW 26 $5.25M 61 20 40 UFA 7. Mark Letestu, EDM C 33 $1.8M 58 8 19 UFA 8. Mike Hoffman, OTT LW 28 $5.19M 60 16 39 2 M-NTC 9. Ryan McDonagh, NYR LD 28 $4.7M 49 2 26 1 M-NTC 10. Mats Zuccarello, NYR RW 30 $4.5M 60 10 43 1 11. Zack Smith, OTT C/LW 29 $3.25M 46 5 17 3 M-NTC 12. Tomas Plekanec, MTL C 35 $6M 60 6 24 UFA 13. Thomas Vanek, VAN LW 33 $2M 60 16 40 UFA 14. Max Domi, ARI C/LW 22 $1.36M 60 4 26 RFA 15. Jack Johnson, CBJ LD 31 $4.35M 60 3 8 UFA 16. Derek Ryan, CAR C 31 $1.45M 58 11 26 UFA 17. Max Pacioretty, MTL LW 29 $4.5M 60 16 35 1 18. Jeff Skinner, CAR LW 25 $5.73M 60 20 37 1 NMC 19. Alex Galchenyuk, MTL LW 23 $4.9M 60 12 34 2 20. J-G Pageau, OTT C 25 $3.1M 56 8 20 4 21. Luke Glendening, DET C 28 $1.8M 48 8 14 3 22. Ryan Hartman, CHI RW 23 $863K 55 8 24 RFA 23. Boone Jenner, CBJ C 24 $2.9M 53 5 17 RFA 24. Andrew Shaw, MTL C/RW 26 $3.9M 43 10 19 4 25. Jordan Kyrou, STL C/RW 19 $894K 0 0 0 3 Slide 26. Robby Fabbri, STL LW 22 $1.1M 0 0 0 RFA 27. Johnny Oduya, OTT LD 36 $2M 51 4 8 UFA M-NTC 28. Gustav Nyquist, DET RW 28 $4.75M 60 16 28 1 NTC 29. Aaron Dell, SJS G 28 $625K 25 2.71 .912 UFA 30. Jon Gillies, CGY G 24 $725K 2 4.35 .815 RFA 31. Bobby Ryan, OTT LW 30 $7.25M 40 7 21 4 M-NTC 32. Matt Hunwick, PIT LD 32 $2.25M 35 3 7 2 33. Benoit Pouliot, BUF LW 31 $1.15M 56 11 15 UFA 34. Josh Leivo, TOR LW 24 $613K 12 1 3 1 35. Tommy Wingels, CHI RW 29 $750K 54 7 12 UFA 36. Tomas Tatar, DET LW 27 $5.3M 59 16 27 3 37. Blake Comeau, COL RW 31 $2.4M 56 10 22 UFA 38. Ben Hutton, VAN LD 24 $2.8M 50 0 6 1 39. Matt Cullen, MIN C 41 $1.7M 58 6 15 UFA 40. Nic Petan, WPG C 22 $863K 12 1 1 RFA 41. Robin Lehner, BUF G 26 $4M 45 2.92 .911 RFA 42. Mike Cammalleri, EDM RW 35 $1M 52 5 22 UFA 43. Xavier Ouellet, DET LD 24 $1.25M 36 0 4 1 44. Danny DeKeyser, DET LD 27 $5M 43 4 7 4 NTC 45. Tyson Barrie, COL RD 26 $5.5M 46 6 36 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, PavelValerievichDatsyuk said: To the bolded: you're the one who said he was a PP specialist on that team, not me. Except he is since he is historically a PP specialist. I can tell that may have not watched Daley as a player in the past. https://www.defendingbigd.com/2014/12/27/7455895/trevor-daley-jumps-to-nhl-lead-in-power-play-goals-scored-by-defensemen Only reason he hasn't played as much on PP with the Wings (first time in his career) is because we give the minutes to Mike Green and Kronwall. Otherwise almost every year, he has played on the PP for a team. Edited February 23, 2018 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, brett said: Should trade Mike Green to Tampa for a first. Then send Tampa first and someone nyquist/Tatar rangers for McDonagh. I can't see him being Worth much more than that. Then re-sign green next year and your defense is looking much better You may be on to something. I know its Eklund, but he seems to be under the impression that the two are linked and will happen together...again, its Eklund, so....still its great to be having some rumors! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, PavelValerievichDatsyuk said: And low and behold Green came as both those things. He was a piece we really lacked. And with him, K, and E, there were still 4 spots for guys on the younger side. When Daley signed it made 4 vets on D: E, K, Green, (5 if you count Wit) and it did take away time from XO, Jensen, (and Sproul could have taken the 7 pot or Hronek by the end of the year...) Many of the younger guys seemed to be rough this year so maybe that's not the worst thing, but it was a legitimate concern and I think it did happen. Right and now that we're losing the 4th guy, let him walk? Why re-sign him? It recreates the problem of having 4 vets doesn't it? 15 hours ago, PavelValerievichDatsyuk said: My complaint was more that it was unnecessary since he's going to be gone by the time we compete, he's not amazing (though he is good), and because we already had Green. I still wish we hadn't signed him - especially if it's true that Green wants to come back. If Daley wasn't here I'd be all in for that, but I'm on the fence now. We will feel Green's absence, though, if he goes. Well we won't be competing even with Green's new contract... Just another $5 million to lock in a guy for 3-4 years? Maybe more knowing Holland. At least Daley was cheap and it was a short contract. Green will be expensive and we don't know how long another contract would be. Looking to bring Hronek, Hicketts, Cholo, and "new guy" into the system here within the next 2-3 years. Draper has said (and Holland recently backed it up) that they want these young guys coming through faster into the system. I liked the Daley signing; thought it was short, cheap, no big deal. Plus I thought Sproul wasn't even good so I wasn't worried about his spot being given away. But with Cholo, Hronek looking to be promising; that's a different story. Mike Green is good, can stay for $3-4 million for 2 years if he wants to. Anything more is probably not good. But it's not going to happen. He's a FA and he'll get $5 million at least. I say 2 years max because I believe that's most likely how long it will take for the younger guys to become NHL ready. Edited February 23, 2018 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 Quote Toronto: Are They Contender Or Do They Wait? Luke Fox of Sportsnet opines that Toronto’s need for a right-handed shooting top-four defenseman may not be an option as most of the markets best are left-handed. In a market of wingers, Toronto needs a center. Depth centers like David Desharnais, Mark Letestu, and Luke Glendening are available. Some potential assets to move include Matt Martin and Josh Leivo. Leivo is more likely to go once Lou Lamoriello’s price goes down. He has been passed on the depth chart and is expendable. http://mynhltraderumors.com/nhl-rumors-toronto-maple-leafs-matt-martin-new-york-islanders/2018/02/23/ Would you trade disney.com for Matt Martin? 1 minute ago, krsmith17 said: BTW, what are you copying to paste the tweet that way? I cannot get it to work... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Would you trade disney.com for Matt Martin? BTW, what are you copying to paste the tweet that way? I cannot get it to work... No, but I would trade him for Leivo. Just click on the drop down arrow of the tweet, and then click "Copy link to Tweet". Then just copy and paste it in here. 1 amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: No, but I would trade him for Leivo. Just click on the drop down arrow of the tweet, and then click "Copy link to Tweet". Then just copy and paste it in here. crud, thats what I do, not working correctly for me....oh well! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 Hey looked it worked again! at least this time! Trying again to see if I got it to work! YAAAAAAA!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 Uh oh... 1 Wingnut1989 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 Top Jimmy to CAL for the Tank? Quote Do the Calgary Flames look to add a goalie? Eric Francis of the Calgary Sun: Goaltender Mike Smith hasn’t been on the ice for the past three days. GM Brad Treliving has few days decide if they want to add a goaltender before the deadline. The Flames are in a similar goaltender situation as the Flyers were before they traded for Petr Mrazek. “I like to reward players and give them a little bit of help,” said Treliving, before adding a telling qualifier, “but it’s a two-way street.” “It’s how you play that is what has got the GM a little pissed off. You’re looking for some desperation — some recognition of the situation they are in. What am I reading in to how we played against Florida (6-3 loss) and Vegas (7-3 loss)?” Treliving isn’t a fan of rentals, giving up prospects they’ve tried to develop, and the few draft picks that they have. Flames sources don’t think Smith’s return is imminent, though Treliving remains optimistic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 ...wait GM's don't trade 5 or 6 roster players, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted February 23, 2018 2 hours ago, kickazz said: Right and now that we're losing the 4th guy, let him walk? Why re-sign him? It recreates the problem of having 4 vets doesn't it? Well we won't be competing even with Green's new contract... Just another $5 million to lock in a guy for 3-4 years? Maybe more knowing Holland. At least Daley was cheap and it was a short contract. Green will be expensive and we don't know how long another contract would be. Looking to bring Hronek, Hicketts, Cholo, and "new guy" into the system here within the next 2-3 years. Draper has said (and Holland recently backed it up) that they want these young guys coming through faster into the system. I liked the Daley signing; thought it was short, cheap, no big deal. Plus I thought Sproul wasn't even good so I wasn't worried about his spot being given away. But with Cholo, Hronek looking to be promising; that's a different story. Mike Green is good, can stay for $3-4 million for 2 years if he wants to. Anything more is probably not good. But it's not going to happen. He's a FA and he'll get $5 million at least. I say 2 years max because I believe that's most likely how long it will take for the younger guys to become NHL ready. That's why I said in my 2nd post I'm on the fence about re-signing Green. Wish we hadn't signed Daley and then I'd be fine about re-signing Green. 2 kliq and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted February 24, 2018 Dang I thought it was going to fire up today! Sure felt like it for a minute there! Oh well! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted February 24, 2018 Rather than copy multiple posts, I'll just respond all at once. First, the only UFA forward I am interested in going after July 1st is JT. If he signs somewhere else, move on. Maybe bring back Vanek on a 1 year deal to replace Booth, but that's it. Second, don't start just trading away players for anything to open up cap space. If you do and you don't get Tavares, than you may have to overpay more guys just to replace everyone you've already traded for peanuts. If you sign Tavares, then you trade away contracts for cap space. You will get less in return at that point because everyone knows u need to shed salary, but at that point-who cares?....You have friggin' John Tavares. Third, I'm still on board with bringing back Green. Kronwall probably plays only one more year, trade or waive Ouellet next season. Green won't be holding anyone down next season. I don't think anyone in GR is ready for full time NHL duty yet. By the time anyone is, there will be roster space available for them. After next season, Ericsson and Daley are on the last year of their deals. They could be traded to make more room if need be. The only way I would say don't bring back Green is if somehow KH gets JT and there is no cap room left after RFAs are signed. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, LeftWinger said: ...wait GM's don't trade 5 or 6 roster players, right? What's also inconceivable is that you can have an Olympics where none of Canada, US, Finland, or Sweden medal in hockey. Wha? Edited February 24, 2018 by Neomaxizoomdweebie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt198913 932 Report post Posted February 24, 2018 Why do I have the feeling this trade deadline will not be as profitable for the Wingsas once thought Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,475 Report post Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) Mike green traded! To: kickazz Mike green and our first for 1/3 of his shares in bitconnect Edited February 24, 2018 by Euro_Twins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
