Rumors Thread

[LeftWinger 4,951]

2 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

This is the 2nd time we've been sellers at the deadline in 20+ years. So when you say "every TDL" you mean last year right?

Anyway if Calgary and Winnipeg wanna make an offer sweet, I just think it's smarter to add term commitments in the summer when the waters are clear. But to each GM, their own.

Prices seem to up again this year. Papa like.

True, but we've also listened to him say stuff for years like, change the makeup of the team, get bigger, get meaner, etc...so when we've debated every year about what we can trade away to get something we need, that also always ends up being draft, then summer, then TDL, the draft, then summer...etc. point is, every TDL it's said player X will be better dealt at the draft, then summer, then training camp. When that doesn't happen, it's said they'll be better traded at the TDL. It's doesn't happen, then....ya, you get it.

[The Datsyukian Deke 127]

3 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

True, but we've also listened to him say stuff for years like, change the makeup of the team, get bigger, get meaner, etc...so when we've debated every year about what we can trade away to get something we need, that also always ends up being draft, then summer, then TDL, the draft, then summer...etc. point is, every TDL it's said player X will be better dealt at the draft, then summer, then training camp. When that doesn't happen, it's said they'll be better traded at the TDL. It's doesn't happen, then....ya, you get it.

Plus, when we were buyers, he couldn't buy good...which makes me fear, he can't sell good, either...

I just hope Smith sets the example and KH proves me wrong.

Edited February 26, 2018 by The Datsyukian Deke

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

1 minute ago, LeftWinger said:

True, but we've also listened to him say stuff for years like, change the makeup of the team, get bigger, get meaner, etc...so when we've debated every year about what we can trade away to get something we need, that also always ends up being draft, then summer, then TDL, the draft, then summer...etc. point is, every TDL it's said player X will be better dealt at the draft, then summer, then training camp. When that doesn't happen, it's said they'll be better traded at the TDL. It's doesn't happen, then....ya, you get it.

Keyword in that sentence: "we've"

Teams change their makeup every year. Some get bigger and meaner (some smaller and nicer). But that doesn't equate to trading a roster player just because "we've" debated the possibilities of it.

[amato 3,210]

4 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Anyone care to explain why Blues moved Statsny (are they out of the playoffs?) and why Hawks moved Hartman?

I think moving McDonagh, Karlsson, and Pacioretty, is dumb in respect to each of their teams.

Blues are right on the bubble.. but they did the same with Shattenkirk last year when they were higher in the standings. Getting a first for a guy that will be a UFA and (in their minds I’m sure) making the playoffs was probably too good to pass up. 

[LeftWinger 4,951]

2 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Keyword in that sentence: "we've"

Teams change their makeup every year. Some get bigger and meaner (some smaller and nicer). But that doesn't equate to trading a roster player just because "we've" debated the possibilities of it.

I was referring to "we" when I said what I said to begin with. I didn't say Holland says it. 

[amato 3,210]

10 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Anyone care to explain why Blues moved Statsny (are they out of the playoffs?) and why Hawks moved Hartman?

I think moving McDonagh, Karlsson, and Pacioretty, is dumb in respect to each of their teams.

Or maybe there’s more to it....

 

 

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

2 minutes ago, The Datsyukian Deke said:

Plus, when we were buyers, he couldn't buy good...which makes me fear, he can't sell good, either...

I just hope Smith sets the example and KH proves me wrong.

Personally, I think he's done really well at selling so far. If he moves Green for a good price today I will consider the last 2 seasons two successful sell-offs/hauls.

However, he's had trhe luxury to sell in two up-markets I think so far. I would like to see what he can get in a down-market before I can really assess his ability to sell.

[amato 3,210]

 

last minute jimmy trade?  

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

2 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

I was referring to "we" when I said what I said to begin with. I didn't say Holland says it. 

That's my point. Holland didn't say it. I don't care what some mongrel around here said to you.

[kickazz 5,459]

1 hour and 5 min till possible meltdown

[The Datsyukian Deke 127]

3 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Personally, I think he's done really well at selling so far. If he moves Green for a good price today I will consider the last 2 seasons two successful sell-offs/hauls.

However, he's had trhe luxury to sell in two up-markets I think so far. I would like to see what he can get in a down-market before I can really assess his ability to sell.

I don't know. As much as I liked the Smith-return, I thought we didn't get enough for Vanek, so...

[PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935]

7 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Anyone care to explain why Blues moved Statsny (are they out of the playoffs?) and why Hawks moved Hartman?

I think moving McDonagh, Karlsson, and Pacioretty, is dumb in respect to each of their teams.

Yeah, was surprised by that too. Apparently they've lost 6 straight and maybe they're trying to shake things up rather than sell off?

Bob Mackenzie says Pacioretty probably won't be traded today. He has had a down year and only 1 year left on his contract so they might move him. It does seem crazy that a team so offensively starved would trade their main offensive guy.

http://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/nhl/hockey-inside-out/dont-expect-max-pacioretty-to-get-traded-tsns-bob-mckenzie

 

[LeftWinger 4,951]

Holland is just ironing out the conditions of the 6th round pick.

If Tampa wins the Cup and Mike scores 10 goals, gets the Conn Smythe and does a piroeutte after every goal, it'll become a 2025 5th.

Edited February 26, 2018 by LeftWinger

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

Just now, The Datsyukian Deke said:

I don't know. As much as I liked the Smith-return, I thought we didn't get enough for Vanek, so...

I was initially disappointed with the return on Vanek. But in retrospect I see why it was what it was. I was super guilty of over-hyping Vanek at the time. He was a top-9 offensive-specialist, nothing more nothing less. He went on to play pretty badly for Florida as I recall. Found his place with the Sedins this year.

[PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935]

3 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

I was initially disappointed with the return on Vanek. But in retrospect I see why it was what it was. I was super guilty of over-hyping Vanek at the time. He was a top-9 offensive-specialist, nothing more nothing less. He went on to play pretty badly for Florida as I recall. Found his place with the Sedins this year.

Yeah, and also he already had the history of being a disappointing deadline pickup when Canadiens picked him up from the islanders so it was understandable in retrospect.

Edited February 26, 2018 by PavelValerievichDatsyuk

[Konnan511 1,736]

10 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

I was initially disappointed with the return on Vanek. But in retrospect I see why it was what it was. I was super guilty of over-hyping Vanek at the time. He was a top-9 offensive-specialist, nothing more nothing less. He went on to play pretty badly for Florida as I recall. Found his place with the Sedins this year.

Shocker

[brett 1,029]

Green isn't going anywhere hehe

[amato 3,210]

also mentions no extension.... purely a rental 

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

Kane to SJ for a 1st, prospect, conditional 4th

EDIT:

 

Edited February 26, 2018 by ChristopherReevesLegs

[LeftWinger 4,951]

Tradecentre just said prices are dropping and will continue to drop as it gets closer to 3. i said yesterday by time Holland makes a move it'll be after 2 and after prices fall! Get ready for a 6th for Green!

[AtlantaHotWings 983]

If Green goes nowhere is it time to go after Holland with the pitchforks and torches?

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

Just now, AtlantaHotWings said:

If Green goes nowhere is it time to go after Holland with the pitchforks and torches?

yup

[krsmith17 7,191]

1 minute ago, AtlantaHotWings said:

If Green goes nowhere is it time to go after Holland with the pitchforks and torches?

Yes.

Remember though, a lot of trades aren't made official until after the 3pm deadline. Give it until around 4pm, until we break out the pitchforks...

[LeftWinger 4,951]

:30 to go. Come on Kenny give us something to believe in!

[kjw25 104]

Green to Edmonton for McDavid