Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, nyqvististhefuture said: Dabura is lazy and he sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dabura said: Another defenseman goes out with an injury. Been this way the past 90 years, don't know why this month should be any different. I'll never wish injury on another player, especially a Red Wing... but... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, krsmith17 said: I'll never wish injury on another player, especially a Red Wing... but... ["the most annoying sound in the world" scene from Dumb and Dumber but it's "the most depressing sight in the world" and it's just Lloyd writing the names of our defensemen] 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: I'll never wish injury on another player, especially a Red Wing... but... If it’s for the greater good and it’s the expandable part I’m all for it ... someone pour some water outside Ericsson’s door Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted January 18, 2019 19 hours ago, nyqvististhefuture said: I’d do it for liljgren then if possible he’s apparenyl expendable now with sandin in the mix and dermott ... marleau has one year left and he’s been atrocious and I’m sure they’d deal him if they could , his cap hit is 6 mill which pays off for Daley and helm basically I would love to get liljegren, don't get me wrong. I might've been his biggest fan around here when he was getting drafted. I could see maybe a Marleau and Liljegren for Helm and Glendog, IF they really view Liljegren as expendable. Mostly because bobcock loves those guys. But I'm not so sure they view him as expendable. He's still a very solid prospect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, amato said: I would love to get liljegren, don't get me wrong. I might've been his biggest fan around here when he was getting drafted. I could see maybe a Marleau and Liljegren for Helm and Glendog, IF they really view Liljegren as expendable. Mostly because bobcock loves those guys. But I'm not so sure they view him as expendable. He's still a very solid prospect. Expendable in the sense that sandin and dermott are waiting in the wings to come up and get more ice time in dermott’s case , but don’t think that’ll just mean they’d give him liljgren away but I do think he can be had Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 18, 2019 29 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Expendable in the sense that sandin and dermott are waiting in the wings to come up and get more ice time in dermott’s case , but don’t think that’ll just mean they’d give him liljgren away but I do think he can be had Rielly, Gardiner (may still re-sign), Dermott, Sandin and Borgman are all left-handed defensemen. Liljegren is their only high-end right-handed defenseman. It would be foolish for them to trade him, and I highly doubt they will, unless it's for a top 4 right-handed defenseman. They definitely won't trade him for 3rd / 4th line depth forwards... 1 Neomaxizoomdweebie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted January 18, 2019 2 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Rielly, Gardiner (may still re-sign), Dermott, Sandin and Borgman are all left-handed defensemen. Liljegren is their only high-end right-handed defenseman. It would be foolish for them to trade him, and I highly doubt they will, unless it's for a top 4 right-handed defenseman. They definitely won't trade him for 3rd / 4th line depth forwards... This ^ is a polite way of saying "GTFO with your ridiculous trade speculation nimrod" 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, The 91 of Ryans said: This ^ is a polite way of saying "GTFO with your ridiculous trade speculation nimrod" Aren’t you a clever little child https://editorinleaf.com/2019/01/14/toronto-maple-leafs-timothy-liljegren-5/ saw it mentioned on tsn as well ... I’m not sitting down thinking of rumors , got me confused with Eklund krsmith I don’t know what they’d trade him for I’m saying he’s available with the emergence of sandin ... so they say, if he’s available and they’re stupid enough to trade him then we should see what the cost would be ... if they want a relevant piece at the deadline he might be the guy who likely gets moved unless they wait in the off season and move nylander Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted January 18, 2019 2 hours ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Aren’t you a clever little child https://editorinleaf.com/2019/01/14/toronto-maple-leafs-timothy-liljegren-5/ saw it mentioned on tsn as well ... I’m not sitting down thinking of rumors , got me confused with Eklund krsmith I don’t know what they’d trade him for I’m saying he’s available with the emergence of sandin ... so they say, if he’s available and they’re stupid enough to trade him then we should see what the cost would be ... if they want a relevant piece at the deadline he might be the guy who likely gets moved unless they wait in the off season and move nylander Not saying Lillygreen won't be dealt. Saying there's no effing way he can be acquired with Glendenning Daley Helm etc. Imagine if Detroit traded Veleno for Eric Fehr. Who here would be happy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted January 19, 2019 3 hours ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Aren’t you a clever little child https://editorinleaf.com/2019/01/14/toronto-maple-leafs-timothy-liljegren-5/ saw it mentioned on tsn as well ... I’m not sitting down thinking of rumors , got me confused with Eklund krsmith I don’t know what they’d trade him for I’m saying he’s available with the emergence of sandin ... so they say, if he’s available and they’re stupid enough to trade him then we should see what the cost would be ... if they want a relevant piece at the deadline he might be the guy who likely gets moved unless they wait in the off season and move nylander Nylander isn't looking too good since returning after holding out. Maybe that big money/term deal he signed is weighing him down. So many Leaf fans around here are pissed, it's great. If he doesn't pick it up soon, no ones making a deal for him in the offseason with that contract. The time to trade him was before this. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 19, 2019 37 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Not saying Lillygreen won't be dealt. Saying there's no effing way he can be acquired with Glendenning Daley Helm etc. Imagine if Detroit traded Veleno for Eric Fehr. Who here would be happy? We did trade Calle Jarnkrok and a 2nd round pick for David Legwand... Not saying they're the same, but at least somewhat similar I would say. There's no doubt that GM's sometimes make "bad trades" when they get desperate, in win-now mode. However, I do agree that there's zero chance we get a top prospect from Toronto for any of Daley, Helm or Glendening. No matter how "expendable" another player has made said prospect... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, krsmith17 said: We did trade Calle Jarnkrok and a 2nd round pick for David Legwand... Not saying they're the same, but at least somewhat similar I would say. LOL That one still sucks. 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted January 19, 2019 50 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Not saying Lillygreen won't be dealt. Saying there's no effing way he can be acquired with Glendenning Daley Helm etc. Imagine if Detroit traded Veleno for Eric Fehr. Who here would be happy? Now your just exaggerating ... first off the deal would make a hell of a lot more sense for the leafs since they’re a cup contender and have a window to go for it with all the big contracts coming up to Matthews and marner soon ... what the hell purpose would the wings have in trading veleno for a plumber? I also mentioned 3 guys in the scenario with term left where fehr has one year left but I get what your trying to say but again we’re in rebuild mode and the leafs are going for the cup 9 minutes ago, chaps80 said: Nylander isn't looking too good since returning after holding out. Maybe that big money/term deal he signed is weighing him down. So many Leaf fans around here are pissed, it's great. If he doesn't pick it up soon, no ones making a deal for him in the offseason with that contract. The time to trade him was before this. Always only takes one team and I do believe they’d find a taker ... I do think he’s just a complimentary piece though and not someone you want to be the go to guy on your team , there’s always a sucker though ... Edmonton?carolina? Someone will take him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted January 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: We did trade Calle Jarnkrok and a 2nd round pick for David Legwand... Not saying they're the same, but at least somewhat similar I would say. There's no doubt that GM's sometimes make "bad trades" when they get desperate, in win-now mode. However, I do agree that there's zero chance we get a top prospect from Toronto for any of Daley, Helm or Glendening. No matter how "expendable" another player has made said prospect... Don’t forget the genius trade for a guy with a history of neck injuries in Eric cole , and those moves were sadly just to keep an unimportant streak alive where as Toronto has a legit shot at the cup if they fix some gaps and I didn’t just suggest glendening or any single one player would get it done , I’d trade all 3 who have term left if possible , maybe throw in a hicketts whatever ... will it get done? Probably not but like you mentioned there’s been a lot of stupid deals made and we made some of them so It wouldn’t surprise me if liljgren was traded for someone who’s not say puljujarvi or young player with upside ... they want some nhl experienced vets right now anyways trade deadline is soon enough so we’ll see who gets deal or not pretty quick 13 minutes ago, chaps80 said: LOL That one still sucks. Cole trade as well , don’t care janmark is struggling this year but the whole team is and we lost a second I believe that had guys like Jordan greenway available at our turn I think ...on well least we kept our streak alive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted January 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Now your just exaggerating ... first off the deal would make a hell of a lot more sense for the leafs since they’re a cup contender and have a window to go for it with all the big contracts coming up to Matthews and marner soon ... what the hell purpose would the wings have in trading veleno for a plumber? I also mentioned 3 guys in the scenario with term left where fehr has one year left but I get what your trying to say but again we’re in rebuild mode and the leafs are going for the cup Always only takes one team and I do believe they’d find a taker ... I do think he’s just a complimentary piece though and not someone you want to be the go to guy on your team , there’s always a sucker though ... Edmonton?carolina? Someone will take him True, but he does make quite a bit for a complimentary piece, especially if not much changes with him. I understand wanting to get him signed with his past performances, but he's got 3 points in 18 games. And 14 PIM, 4 more than he did in 82 games last year. He's snakebitten and frustrated, clearly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted January 19, 2019 39 minutes ago, chaps80 said: True, but he does make quite a bit for a complimentary piece, especially if not much changes with him. I understand wanting to get him signed with his past performances, but he's got 3 points in 18 games. And 14 PIM, 4 more than he did in 82 games last year. He's snakebitten and frustrated, clearly. Teams will just say he missed training camp ,his legs aren’t up to par yet and it’ll take him time to get back into the flow i do think if he gets ppl time elsewhere and ice time he can get 30 goals per year but I don’t think he’s a bonafide star that’ll lead a team to the top but as mentioned teams desperate for offence like oilers,Carolina, maybe Arizona etc... will take him , don’t know what the leafs could get back in return ... would kinda suck to see puljujarvi ending up in Toronto and breaking out though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 679 Report post Posted January 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Teams will just say he missed training camp ,his legs aren’t up to par yet and it’ll take him time to get back into the flow i do think if he gets ppl time elsewhere and ice time he can get 30 goals per year but I don’t think he’s a bonafide star that’ll lead a team to the top but as mentioned teams desperate for offence like oilers,Carolina, maybe Arizona etc... will take him , don’t know what the leafs could get back in return ... would kinda suck to see puljujarvi ending up in Toronto and breaking out though So you peg him as a Larkin type... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted January 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, mackel said: So you peg him as a Larkin type... Just cause I can see him scoring 30?theres players who can score and do not much else and that’s nylander ... Larkin’s a great two way guy who can kill penalties and is a leader and future c they’re not even the same league Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 679 Report post Posted January 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Just cause I can see him scoring 30?theres players who can score and do not much else and that’s nylander ... Larkin’s a great two way guy who can kill penalties and is a leader and future c they’re not even the same league Ummm yea, they are... the NHL. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted January 19, 2019 Heard that Ericsson might be going to Toronto soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 19, 2019 48 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Heard that Ericsson might be going to Toronto soon. Source? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted January 19, 2019 2 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Source? A guy I know at LCA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 19, 2019 41 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: A guy I know at LCA. Funny, the guy I know at LCA said your guy is full of s***... 3 Neomaxizoomdweebie, amato and F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted January 19, 2019 23 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Funny, the guy I know at LCA said your guy is full of s***... Your bad attitude changes nothing 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
