Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted February 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, kipwinger said: The fact that his career has been better than one could reasonably expect doesn't mean that he still needs to be on the team, or that we should all tip our hats to his ability to exceed expectations. Another way of looking at it might be, why did a 9th round pick play on your blue line for 10 years when such a thing as free agency exists? Congrats on a quality career Big E, now please, PLEASE, go the f*** away. So he doesn't deserve a measure of praise and respect? Do you really think he deserves all of the hate he gets? I don't. People wanna complain everytime he makes a mistake despite the fact he's a 4/5 dman playing above his skill set every night. There are guys since E that merit much more disgust that get a pass because they aren't here, they're irrelevant. Cant hate on those guys because they're forgotten. But E is convenient. He's on the team. He's on the ice. He's visible, so let's overreact at every gaffe. Let's put this teams accumulative suckage on one guy. Yep. That's completely fair and rational. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,520 Report post Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: So he doesn't deserve a measure of praise and respect? Do you really think he deserves all of the hate he gets? I don't. People wanna complain everytime he makes a mistake despite the fact he's a 4/5 dman playing above his skill set every night. There are guys since E that merit much more disgust that get a pass because they aren't here, they're irrelevant. Cant hate on those guys because they're forgotten. But E is convenient. He's on the team. He's on the ice. He's visible, so let's overreact at every gaffe. Let's put this teams accumulative suckage on one guy. Yep. That's completely fair and rational. Lol. Wait, are you saying I should criticize guys who AREN'T on the team more than the guy who IS? Alright man, you win. The next time Ericsson turns the puck over in the defensive zone I'll be sure to blame Brendan Smith. In your world that will be "fair and rational". Also, nobody "hates" Ericsson. They think he sucks. And he does suck, so what's the problem? If you were the GM of this team would you let Jonathan Ericsson play on your blueline for 10 years? Other than Witkowski, Ericsson is DEFINITELY the worst defenseman on this team. Edited February 22, 2019 by kipwinger 1 mackel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: So he doesn't deserve a measure of praise and respect? Do you really think he deserves all of the hate he gets? I don't. People wanna complain everytime he makes a mistake despite the fact he's a 4/5 dman playing above his skill set every night. There are guys since E that merit much more disgust that get a pass because they aren't here, they're irrelevant. Cant hate on those guys because they're forgotten. But E is convenient. He's on the team. He's on the ice. He's visible, so let's overreact at every gaffe. Let's put this teams accumulative suckage on one guy. Yep. That's completely fair and rational. It's 2019 not 2015. The debate you're trying to bring up has long been settled. Yes there were those that irrationally shat on the guy for years. But the truth is that he just sucks and it's time to move on. Had a great year in 2013 and declined badly. Even the anti-hate Ericsson crowd (like myself) agree that he hasn't been cutting it for a long time and is an overpaid player. That much was made obvious and definitive around 2016-ish. To the point where Jeff Blashill has scratched him. Edited February 22, 2019 by kickazz 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted February 23, 2019 1 hour ago, kipwinger said: Lol. Wait, are you saying I should criticize guys who AREN'T on the team more than the guy who IS? Alright man, you win. The next time Ericsson turns the puck over in the defensive zone I'll be sure to blame Brendan Smith. In your world that will be "fair and rational". Also, nobody "hates" Ericsson. They think he sucks. And he does suck, so what's the problem? If you were the GM of this team would you let Jonathan Ericsson play on your blueline for 10 years? Other than Witkowski, Ericsson is DEFINITELY the worst defenseman on this team. No. Just that there way bigger disappointments. No, it wouldn't. Blame Smith for Smith's mistakes, E for E's, but don't over-exaggerate them. He doesn't suck. He looked just fine when he had a better D corp around him. He was able to play a secondary role more appropriate to his abilities. Now he's forced to do too much. If he is really as bad as people make him out to be, he never would have been signed to that contract in the first place. Unless of course Holland is as dumb as people think he is (he isn't). A better GM than I would ever be did. Who said otherwise? Not me. 1 hour ago, kickazz said: It's 2019 not 2015. The debate you're trying to bring up has long been settled. Yes there were those that irrationally shat on the guy for years. But the truth is that he just sucks and it's time to move on. Had a great year in 2013 and declined badly. Even the anti-hate Ericsson crowd (like myself) agree that he hasn't been cutting it for a long time and is an overpaid player. That much was made obvious and definitive around 2016-ish. To the point where Jeff Blashill has scratched him. Disagree with the bold. Agree with the underlined. 2nd bold: Never said otherwise. Over his head? Yep. Overpaid for what he brings? Yep. Deserving all of the crap he gets from "fans"? Nope. If he wasn't being paid 4.25 mil but instead being paid a fraction of that and being used as a depth defenseman, I don't think anyone would be complaining. Oh, wait, they'd still be complaining... that he's still breathing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Disagree with the bold. Agree with the underlined. 2nd bold: Never said otherwise. Over his head? Yep. Overpaid for what he brings? Yep. Deserving all of the crap he gets from "fans"? Nope. If he wasn't being paid 4.25 mil but instead being paid a fraction of that and being used as a depth defenseman, I don't think anyone would be complaining. Oh, wait, they'd still be complaining... that he's still breathing. I think overexaggerating the hate. Maybe it was true a few years ago, but this topic seems out of date today. People have long called for Ericsson to be benched or traded. His visible gaffes cost us a lot of goals and the same applies to Brenden Smith. And we know what ended up happening to that guy. Fans may not understand the game through the perspective of a GM or coach all that well, but they certainly can see a player that isn't good and should have been traded years ago. Instead he's still here. At least with Smith we weren't handicapped with a bad contract so Holland traded him while he still could. Got a nice return for Smith and he ended up proving to suck. Ericsson would likely have ended up the same way had we traded him during the window of opportunity 2-3 years ago. Instead he has a roster spot on a team that has had terrible defensive depth for years. Edited February 23, 2019 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted February 23, 2019 2013 whipping boy: Ericsson 2014 whipping boy: Smith .... .... .... .... 2019 whipping boy: Ericsson Like clockwork Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted May 4, 2019 Dubas is fukt lol Kessel makes sense but Letang and Malkin would be pretty wild 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted May 4, 2019 46 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Dubas is fukt lol Luv it 2 ChristopherReevesLegs and amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted May 4, 2019 2 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Dubas is fukt lol Kessel makes sense but Letang and Malkin would be pretty wild Its what all the cool kids are doing now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) As I've said numerous times before...Signing Marleau was a bad idea, and now these kids want their $$$ without any care about winning the Cup. I honestly believe Detroit will win it again before the Leafs. As for Kessel, and Malkin...Who'd want those 2? Edited May 4, 2019 by F.Michael 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted May 4, 2019 8 hours ago, F.Michael said: As I've said numerous times before...Signing Marleau was a bad idea, and now these kids want their $$$ without any care about winning the Cup. I honestly believe Detroit will win it again before the Leafs. As for Kessel, and Malkin...Who'd want those 2? And Tavares and Nylander honestly. Marleau is undneeded and puts them in cap hell, but Tavares just made the standard for all their young players $11 million dollars. Just look at Nylander, he made over $10 million this year after his temper tantrum and missing half the season lol. Yzerman would have Drouin'd that brat. Marner wants his $11.5 million and I don't blame him. Dubas is permanently wearing the shocked pikachu face right now. Hopefully those classy Tronna fans don't start to turn on him... 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) Because its Toronto. And players want to go there so badly that they'll take any amount of money to be there. Edited May 4, 2019 by Neomaxizoomdweebie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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xault 272 Report post Posted May 5, 2019 On 5/3/2019 at 10:17 PM, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Dubas is fukt lol Kessel makes sense but Letang and Malkin would be pretty wild Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted May 5, 2019 TML fanbase with their expectations of next season... 1 1 ChristopherReevesLegs and AtlantaHotWings reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted May 5, 2019 10 hours ago, F.Michael said: TML fanbase with their expectations of next season... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) Rumor Round Up 6/11 Flyers Fletcher will be very aggressive this summer #11 pick may be available Ghostbear may be available Nolan Patrick may be available Interest in Hayes in FA Habs Byron may be available Shaw may be available Interest in Duchene in FA Interest in Ghostbear in a trade Chicago Interest in Ryan Murray in a trade Interest in Hayes in FA Colorado Interest in Hayes in FA Columbus Ryan Murray may be available Ducks Perry available (may buy out) Penguins Kessell available (wants to play in the southwest) Nashville Interest in Duchene in FA Kyle Turris may be available Subban may be available Edmonton Puljujarvi available Lucic available Vancouver Interest in Lucic in a trade Interest in Zucker in a trae Eriksson available Minnesota Zucker available Buffalo Interest in Zucker in a trade Toronto Zaitsev available Kadri may be available Marleau available (wants to go west) Gardiner may be available Kapanen may be available Johnsson may be available Brown may be available Kings Carter may be available Interest in Marleau in a trade Arizona Interest in Duchene in FA Interest in Marleau in a trade Winnipeg Trouba may be available Tampa Callahan may be available Interest in Karlsson in FA Florida Interest in Panarin in FA Interest in Bobrovsky in FA Ottawa Interest in Spezza in FA Calgary Brodie may be available Hamonic may be available KHL Markov may be interested in returning to the NHL Alright what did I miss? Edited June 11, 2019 by ChristopherReevesLegs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 11, 2019 14 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Alright what did I miss? Detroit (and by Detroit, I mean me) - Interest in Trouba - Interest in Callahan (or more so the assets that come with him) - Interest in Kapanen (offer sheet $4.2M) - Interest in Puljujarvi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 11, 2019 Rutherford now reporting that a Kessell trade is unlikely. I think it was Kypreos who was on barstool sports the other day who said Kessell wants to go to a very specific team in the southwest. I got the impression he meant San Jose or maybe Vegas. Doubt he wants to go to Kings, Ducks, or Yotes when he can have another shot at a cup with the Pens next year. SJ probably just didn't have the room to bring him on. Maybe if Karlsson stayin in SJ falls through they get him at the draft... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted June 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Rutherford now reporting that a Kessell trade is unlikely. I think it was Kypreos who was on barstool sports the other day who said Kessell wants to go to a very specific team in the southwest. I got the impression he meant San Jose or maybe Vegas. Doubt he wants to go to Kings, Ducks, or Yotes when he can have another shot at a cup with the Pens next year. SJ probably just didn't have the room to bring him on. Maybe if Karlsson stayin in SJ falls through they get him at the draft... Phil Kessel or Phil Kessell? Have a link to the article? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 11, 2019 44 minutes ago, Rivalred said: Phil Kessel or Phil Kessell? Have a link to the article? The one L guy https://theathletic.com/1021370/2019/06/11/jim-rutherford-trading-phil-kessel-is-now-unlikely/ Pay wall but it's in the first few lines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 11, 2019 Wtfff just watched this French show and there talking hockey rumours and they said yzerman is looking at Kyle Turris ... I know he played well with him with team canada but no thanks , also said mantha had great moments in the tournament with a different coach and he should consider firing blashill (duh) although he finished the season strong umm keep blashill one more year and hope we get a top 5 pick again and then ship him out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Wtfff just watched this French show and there talking hockey rumours and they said yzerman is looking at Kyle Turris ... I know he played well with him with team canada but no thanks , also said mantha had great moments in the tournament with a different coach and he should consider firing blashill (duh) although he finished the season strong umm keep blashill one more year and hope we get a top 5 pick again and then ship him out Would you rather... accept the Turris contract and fire Blash, or not gain Turris but have to keep Blash? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: The one L guy https://theathletic.com/1021370/2019/06/11/jim-rutherford-trading-phil-kessel-is-now-unlikely/ Pay wall but it's in the first few lines Always best to post information with a valid link. Remember, always keep your stick on the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted June 12, 2019 48 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Would you rather... accept the Turris contract and fire Blash, or not gain Turris but have to keep Blash? Easy keep blashill, should give us great odds at another top 5 pick , we hopefully have great 2018,2019 and 2020 drafts , trouba signs July 1 2020 , fire blashill and we get this thing turned around all that being said Turris at 5 more years at 6 per season isn’t a smart move and we have the bertuzzi Larkin mantha line already that have chemistry but I’m sure blashill will find a way to f*** that up and hopefully mantha won’t cost too much to sign and we’ll get a bargain once we get a new coach Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
