Official 2018 Off Season *Rebuild* Thread

[marcaractac 3,960]

1 minute ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Well, let me tell you about Tippett and Hague....

[Learn2LuvIt 245]

3 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

Well if we go with Jimmy and a worse back-up, we're definitely getting another lottery pick, so that is fine, but damn he should pay 3/4 of his salary back.

Maybe we'll give Tom McCullum another chance. He'll sign on the cheap, we'll need a sub $1M backup with the money we are already wasting in the G position.

There is a 36 year old Accountant/Goalie in Chicago with current NHL experience and a winning record that will play for the league minimum. 

[LeftWinger 4,934]

3 hours ago, marcaractac said:

Well, let me tell you about Tippett and Hague....

Please do tell, because if you had paid any attention to prospects you'd know he was a better choice than Ras, ad were many others.

[realLeftWinger 0]

Throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart. Crooked Ken Holland also played these cards very hard and, as everyone knows, is going down in flames. I went from VERY successful poster, to top forum Star... I think that would qualify as not smart, but genius....and a very stable genius at that!

Edited April 24, 2018 by realLeftWinger

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

27 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Please do tell, because if you had paid any attention to prospects you'd know he was a better choice than Ras, ad were many others.

anddddddddddd this is now a Leftwinger Tippett Hague thread lol

[marcaractac 3,960]

59 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

anddddddddddd this is now a Leftwinger Tippett Hague thread lol

All we're missing is nyquitisthefuture's rant about the Legwand trade

1 hour ago, LeftWinger said:

Please do tell, because if you had paid any attention to prospects you'd know he was a better choice than Ras, ad were many others.

Franzen > Tippett

Green > Hague

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

1 hour ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

anddddddddddd this is now a Leftwinger Tippett Hague thread lol

i always thought that was the point of starting a new thread.

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

Complete list of players with expiring rights for this off-season:

Player	Rights Owned By	Expiring
Tyler Soy	ANA	June 1st
Anton Karlsson	ARI	June 1st
David Westlund	ARI	June 1st
Jared Fiegl	ARI	August 15th
Brandon Hickey	ARI	August 15th
Vojtech Budik	BUF	June 1st
Brandon Hagel	BUF	June 1st
Austin Osmanski	BUF	June 1st
Judd Peterson	BUF	August 15th
Max Willman	BUF	August 15th
Adam Ollas Mattsson	CGY	June 1st
Noah Carroll	CAR	June 1st
Hudson Elynuik	CAR	June 1st
Andreas Soderberg	CHI	June 1st
Max Pajpach	COL	June 1st
Tyler Bird	CBJ	August 15th
Miro Karjalainen	DAL	June 1st
Michael Prapavessis	DAL	August 15th
Jordan Sambrook	DET	June 1st
Julius Vahatalo	DET	June 1st
David Pope	DET	August 15th
Aidan Muir	EDM	August 15th
Tyler Vesel	EDM	August 15th
Hugo Fagerblom	FLA	June 1st
Adam Mascherin	FLA	June 1st
Jacob Friend	LAK	June 1st
Steven Johnson	LAK	August 15th
Braydyn Chizen	MIN	June 1st
Kaapo Kahkonen	MIN	June 1st
Pontus Sjalin	MIN	June 1st
Dmitry Sokolov	MIN	June 1st
Avery Peterson	MIN	August 15th
Evan Cormier	NJD	June 1st
Shane Eiserman	OTT	August 15th
Kelly Summers	OTT	August 15th
Anthony Salinitri	PHI	June 1st
Terrance Amorosa	PHI	August 15th
David Drake	PHI	August 15th
Connor Hall	PIT	June 1st
Mark Shoemaker	SJS	June 1st
Dwyer Tschantz	STL	August 15th
Christopher Paquette	TBL	June 1st
Johnathan MacLeod	TBL	August 15th
Vladimir Bobylev	TOR	June 1st
Pierre Engvall	TOR	June 1st
Nicolas Mattinen	TOR	June 1st
Keaton Middleton	TOR	June 1st
J.J. Piccinich	TOR	June 1st
Nolan Vesey	TOR	August 15th
Cole Candella	VAN	June 1st
Brett McKenzie	VAN	June 1st
Jakob Stukel	VAN	June 1st
Kevin Elgestal	WSH	June 1st
Dmitri Zaitsev	WSH	June 1st
Jordan Stallard	WPG	June 1st
Jack Glover	WPG	August 15th
Matt Ustaski	WPG	August 15th

[LeftWinger 4,934]

I am guessing that they will sign Pope.  I thought Sambrook was suppose to be a solid prospect, wonder why they haven't inked him yet...

Vahatalo looks like one of those picks that you hoped you hit something, but his stats don't look too impressive, but then again, 12 points in 60 games wouldn't be bad for our team last year!

 

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

On 4/24/2018 at 2:23 PM, LeftWinger said:

Please do tell, because if you had paid any attention to prospects you'd know he was a better choice than Ras, ad were many others.

No. He wasn't.

Nico Hischier was selected first overall by the New Jersey Devils

Source: NHL Central Scouting final (April 11, 2017) ranking.^[7]

Ranking	North American skaters	European skaters
1	Nolan Patrick (C)	Klim Kostin (C/LW)
2	Nico Hischier (C)	Elias Pettersson (C)
3	Casey Mittelstadt (C)	Lias Andersson (C)
4	Gabriel Vilardi (C)	Miro Heiskanen (D)
5	Michael Rasmussen (C)	Martin Necas (C)
6	Cody Glass (C)	Timothy Liljegren (D)
7	Owen Tippett (RW)	Kristian Vesalainen (LW/RW)
8	Eeli Tolvanen (RW)	Urho Vaakanainen (D)
9	Cale Makar (D)	Erik Brannstrom (D)
10	Nick Suzuki (C)	Jesper Boqvist (C)

 

The only player ranked higher who was taken later was Vilardi. Even that was a toss up.

Edited April 25, 2018 by Neomaxizoomdweebie

[LeftWinger 4,934]

Ironic, I just read an article about Boqvist on how he was at the draft when his brother was drafted and he is looking forward to being drafted himself.  I see in this chart that Jesper was 10th ranked European, in the article it said he was chosen 36th overall. Its amazing how players drop sometimes.

[krsmith17 7,191]

3 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

Ironic, I just read an article about Boqvist on how he was at the draft when his brother was drafted and he is looking forward to being drafted himself.  I see in this chart that Jesper was 10th ranked European, in the article it said he was chosen 36th overall. Its amazing how players drop sometimes.

He didn't drop much. He was ranked 10th and taken 11th. The only European skater that was taken ahead of him that was ranked lower on NHL Central Scouting was Filip Chytil.

[RightWeiner 17]

16 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

Ironic, I just read an article about Boqvist on how he was at the draft when his brother was drafted and he is looking forward to being drafted himself.  I see in this chart that Jesper was 10th ranked European, in the article it said he was chosen 36th overall. Its amazing how players drop sometimes.

I don't think you understand how the rankings work. 10th ranked EUROPEAN. 

[LeftWinger 4,934]

3 hours ago, RightWeiner said:

I don't think you understand how the rankings work. 10th ranked EUROPEAN. 

hit ignore. I don't recommend following me around tearing down everything I post. 

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

Holland Interview on Red & White Authority

• Holland reiterates that the team is currently focused on building out with youth, but also emphasizes that veterans are still important, basically says: Can't just throw a buncha kids on the ice and expect them to have it all figured out on their own 4 years later. Young players need examples/mentors/leaders.
• They talk about the many puck-moving D-men in this draft. Holland states the Red Wings need this, but he also doesn't want a team of all 5'10" puck movers. He says we also need some, and this is the exact quote from Ken, "Trees" that can take on the bigger forwards in the league.
• Ken expects to take 2-3 D-men in the first 3 rounds (we have 7 picks in the first 3 rounds total)
• I thought this was kinda telling, because Holland kept mentioning it without really being asked. He says the Wings have an abundance of wingers they like in the system, but that if a good winger becomes available (someone who he thinks can net 30 goals and 60-70 pts a season) he's going to take him. Really gave me the impression that the Wings have their eye on a particular winger.
• Holland is expecting 1, maybe 2, young Dmen to make the team next year (Hicketts, Cholowski, Hronek, Sulak, or our 2018 1st rounder)
• They talk about Michael Rasmussen's personality and injury this season. They joke about how serious Rasmussen is about his profession, and about how he's so serious that he doesn't laugh. Holland says his personality and leadership was a real part of why the Wings liked him at the draft. Apparently Ras had the option to wait to do his surgery in the summer, but instead wanted to do it immediately this season so that he could rehab before the WHL playoff run and so he would be 100% ready for off-season training in which he intends to train to become a Red Wing.
• If Tri-City gets eliminated in the playoffs Ras will go immediately to GR to be the second line center according to Holland per Todd Nelson.
• Horcoff has been working closely with Cholowski to get him stonger. Dennis has added 20 lbs of muscle since we drafted him.
• Sounds like Holland really likes Ty Bertuzzi. Says 2uzzi has always gone deep in the playoffs wherever he's been and has never had a full summer to really put strength and weight on. That's what motivated the Red Wings to keep him off the Griffins playoff run this year.
• Blashill made the decision on Torchetti. Wings want to be better at special teams and Blashill wants to try something different on the PP.
• Holland is handing more responsibilities to Ryan Martin. Once the personnel market shakes out this summer, Holland would consider bringing on another assistant GM, specifically someone who has past experience as a head GM or assistant GM.
• Holland says Blashill is a young coach still learning everyday, but is a better coach today than when he took over the team.
• In regards to FA this season, Holland says some guys will be back, some guys won't (bye bye Green??) and will be replaced by younger players. He's hoping to have more cap flexibility next season.

[marcaractac 3,960]

4 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Holland Interview on Red & White Authority

• Holland reiterates that the team is currently focused on building out with youth, but also emphasizes that veterans are still important, basically says: Can't just throw a buncha kids on the ice and expect them to have it all figured out on their own 4 years later. Young players need examples/mentors/leaders.
• They talk about the many puck-moving D-men in this draft. Holland states the Red Wings need this, but he also doesn't want a team of all 5'10" puck movers. He says we also need some, and this is the exact quote from Ken, "Trees" that can take on the bigger forwards in the league.
• Ken expects to take 2-3 D-men in the first 3 rounds (we have 7 picks in the first 3 rounds total)
• I thought this was kinda telling, because Holland kept mentioning it without really being asked. He says the Wings have an abundance of wingers they like in the system, but that if a good winger becomes available (someone who he thinks can net 30 goals and 60-70 pts a season) he's going to take him. Really gave me the impression that the Wings have their eye on a particular winger.
• Holland is expecting 1, maybe 2, young Dmen to make the team next year (Hicketts, Cholowski, Hronek, Sulak, or our 2018 1st rounder)
• They talk about Michael Rasmussen's personality and injury this season. They joke about how serious Rasmussen is about his profession, and about how he's so serious that he doesn't laugh. Holland says his personality and leadership was a real part of why the Wings liked him at the draft. Apparently Ras had the option to wait to do his surgery in the summer, but instead wanted to do it immediately this season so that he could rehab before the WHL playoff run and so he would be 100% ready for off-season training in which he intends to train to become a Red Wing.
• If Tri-City gets eliminated in the playoffs Ras will go immediately to GR to be the second line center according to Holland per Todd Nelson.
• Horcoff has been working closely with Cholowski to get him stonger. Dennis has added 20 lbs of muscle since we drafted him.
• Sounds like Holland really likes Ty Bertuzzi. Says 2uzzi has always gone deep in the playoffs wherever he's been and has never had a full summer to really put strength and weight on. That's what motivated the Red Wings to keep him off the Griffins playoff run this year.
• Blashill made the decision on Torchetti. Wings want to be better at special teams and Blashill wants to try something different on the PP.
• Holland is handing more responsibilities to Ryan Martin. Once the personnel market shakes out this summer, Holland would consider bringing on another assistant GM, specifically someone who has past experience as a head GM or assistant GM.
• Holland says Blashill is a young coach still learning everyday, but is a better coach today than when he took over the team.
• In regards to FA this season, Holland says some guys will be back, some guys won't (bye bye Green??) and will be replaced by younger players. He's hoping to have more cap flexibility next season.

This is the type of stuff I wanted to hear from him last year once the playoff streak ended, but i'll take it. 

[Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453]

6 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Holland Interview on Red & White Authority

• Holland reiterates that the team is currently focused on building out with youth, but also emphasizes that veterans are still important, basically says: Can't just throw a buncha kids on the ice and expect them to have it all figured out on their own 4 years later. Young players need examples/mentors/leaders.
• They talk about the many puck-moving D-men in this draft. Holland states the Red Wings need this, but he also doesn't want a team of all 5'10" puck movers. He says we also need some, and this is the exact quote from Ken, "Trees" that can take on the bigger forwards in the league.
• Ken expects to take 2-3 D-men in the first 3 rounds (we have 7 picks in the first 3 rounds total)
• I thought this was kinda telling, because Holland kept mentioning it without really being asked. He says the Wings have an abundance of wingers they like in the system, but that if a good winger becomes available (someone who he thinks can net 30 goals and 60-70 pts a season) he's going to take him. Really gave me the impression that the Wings have their eye on a particular winger.
• Holland is expecting 1, maybe 2, young Dmen to make the team next year (Hicketts, Cholowski, Hronek, Sulak, or our 2018 1st rounder)
• They talk about Michael Rasmussen's personality and injury this season. They joke about how serious Rasmussen is about his profession, and about how he's so serious that he doesn't laugh. Holland says his personality and leadership was a real part of why the Wings liked him at the draft. Apparently Ras had the option to wait to do his surgery in the summer, but instead wanted to do it immediately this season so that he could rehab before the WHL playoff run and so he would be 100% ready for off-season training in which he intends to train to become a Red Wing.
• If Tri-City gets eliminated in the playoffs Ras will go immediately to GR to be the second line center according to Holland per Todd Nelson.
• Horcoff has been working closely with Cholowski to get him stonger. Dennis has added 20 lbs of muscle since we drafted him.
• Sounds like Holland really likes Ty Bertuzzi. Says 2uzzi has always gone deep in the playoffs wherever he's been and has never had a full summer to really put strength and weight on. That's what motivated the Red Wings to keep him off the Griffins playoff run this year.
• Blashill made the decision on Torchetti. Wings want to be better at special teams and Blashill wants to try something different on the PP.
• Holland is handing more responsibilities to Ryan Martin. Once the personnel market shakes out this summer, Holland would consider bringing on another assistant GM, specifically someone who has past experience as a head GM or assistant GM.
• Holland says Blashill is a young coach still learning everyday, but is a better coach today than when he took over the team.
• In regards to FA this season, Holland says some guys will be back, some guys won't (bye bye Green??) and will be replaced by younger players. He's hoping to have more cap flexibility next season.

He's definitely saying the right things (in my opinion) and the talk about Rasmussen/Cholowski is equally as good to hear. Hopefully we can walk the walk now and take some solid steps forward.

[kickazz 5,459]

6 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Holland Interview on Red & White Authority

• Holland reiterates that the team is currently focused on building out with youth, but also emphasizes that veterans are still important, basically says: Can't just throw a buncha kids on the ice and expect them to have it all figured out on their own 4 years later. Young players need examples/mentors/leaders.
• They talk about the many puck-moving D-men in this draft. Holland states the Red Wings need this, but he also doesn't want a team of all 5'10" puck movers. He says we also need some, and this is the exact quote from Ken, "Trees" that can take on the bigger forwards in the league.
• Ken expects to take 2-3 D-men in the first 3 rounds (we have 7 picks in the first 3 rounds total)
• I thought this was kinda telling, because Holland kept mentioning it without really being asked. He says the Wings have an abundance of wingers they like in the system, but that if a good winger becomes available (someone who he thinks can net 30 goals and 60-70 pts a season) he's going to take him. Really gave me the impression that the Wings have their eye on a particular winger.
• Holland is expecting 1, maybe 2, young Dmen to make the team next year (Hicketts, Cholowski, Hronek, Sulak, or our 2018 1st rounder)
• They talk about Michael Rasmussen's personality and injury this season. They joke about how serious Rasmussen is about his profession, and about how he's so serious that he doesn't laugh. Holland says his personality and leadership was a real part of why the Wings liked him at the draft. Apparently Ras had the option to wait to do his surgery in the summer, but instead wanted to do it immediately this season so that he could rehab before the WHL playoff run and so he would be 100% ready for off-season training in which he intends to train to become a Red Wing.
• If Tri-City gets eliminated in the playoffs Ras will go immediately to GR to be the second line center according to Holland per Todd Nelson.
• Horcoff has been working closely with Cholowski to get him stonger. Dennis has added 20 lbs of muscle since we drafted him.
• Sounds like Holland really likes Ty Bertuzzi. Says 2uzzi has always gone deep in the playoffs wherever he's been and has never had a full summer to really put strength and weight on. That's what motivated the Red Wings to keep him off the Griffins playoff run this year.
• Blashill made the decision on Torchetti. Wings want to be better at special teams and Blashill wants to try something different on the PP.
• Holland is handing more responsibilities to Ryan Martin. Once the personnel market shakes out this summer, Holland would consider bringing on another assistant GM, specifically someone who has past experience as a head GM or assistant GM.
• Holland says Blashill is a young coach still learning everyday, but is a better coach today than when he took over the team.
• In regards to FA this season, Holland says some guys will be back, some guys won't (bye bye Green??) and will be replaced by younger players. He's hoping to have more cap flexibility next season.

I'm more impressed by your ability to bullet point the hell out of this interview. Clearly you didn't do s*** at work today. 

[Barrie 900]

I was looking at some stats, I see Rasmussen has 30 pts (15 goals, 15 assists) in 13 playoff games. Gotta love that!

[RightWeiner 17]

10 minutes ago, Barrie said:

I was looking at some stats, I see Rasmussen has 30 pts (15 goals, 15 assists) in 13 playoff games. Gotta love that!

Tippett would have done better...

[Barrie 900]

10 minutes ago, RightWeiner said:

Tippett would have done better...

Vilardi too!

[krsmith17 7,191]

1 hour ago, Barrie said:

Vilardi too!

To be fair, Vilardi was much better in the regular season, and is also coming off an injury. I still think Vilardi will be a better NHLer than Rasmussen, but hope I'm wrong. 

[amato 3,210]

23 minutes ago, krsmith17 said:

To be fair, Vilardi was much better in the regular season, and is also coming off an injury. I still think Vilardi will be a better NHLer than Rasmussen, but hope I'm wrong. 

You’re wrong  

[LeftWinger 4,934]

20 hours ago, RightWeiner said:

Tippett would have done better...

Bingo!

 

Edited May 1, 2018 by LeftWinger

[LeftWinger 4,934]

My bad...

 

Edited May 1, 2018 by LeftWinger