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12 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:
  • No, that's absolutely and demonstrably false, and i actually think it's quite racist of you to assume only black people care about race relations and racial equality enough to kneel during an anthem. Caucasian players did in fact kneel too. Trump also referenced them by their stance (kneeling), not by race. The only one bringing race into this is you. Fine, I'll play your stupid ass little game. Let's pretend for a second that Donald Trump didn't call black NFL players sons of *******. Instead, he said that any player that kneels in peaceful protest against the injustice of police officers shooting unarmed black men, a noble cause to champion, is a son of a ***** and deserves to be fired from their job. That is equally deplorable.
  • when this was written segregation was also in full effect in this country. I'll assume you also want to return to this form of social divide, or are you just cherry picking the pieces of our past your fond of? Yes, I am absolutely cherry picking things from our nation's history that are good while simultaneously condemning the things that were bad. It's called progress. I know that conservatives are allergic to it, but I promise you that it's not as scary as it sounds.
  •  did you just assume American = white? Curious. This country is full of people of many different backgrounds. Some turn out to be murders and rapists, which is quite unfortunate. I don't think you'll disagree that we should stop more murders and rapists from entering the country, whether they're of Mexican decent or not. No, I pointed out the fact that Trumps base is overwhelmingly white, and that if he had painted white people as rapists, drug dealers and murderers the way he did mexicans, he wouldnt have won a single primary.
  • and I'd agree with you. I couldn't possibly fathom the true responsibility of being an American president. Trump and Obama are better men than me. Trump is not a better man than you.
  • Please explain how Bill Clinton's actions with women are justifiable, but Trump's are not. We aren't talking about Bill Clinton's actions right now. If thats something you'd like to discuss in the future, I'm all for it. But right now, we're talking about Trump. And whatever errors his predecessors might have made in the past dont excuse Trumps wrongdoings. See, you know that Trumps behavior is indefensible, so you're trying to muddy the waters so that you dont have to admit it. Intellectually shady, bro.
  • Nope. There's many instances of Trump using the exact same gesture to attack other political opponents, Democratic and Republican. I recommend watching his speeches prior to this particular occurrence. So Trump has consistently mocked people by acting like they are mentally retarded. And that's better.... how?
  • Because the commander in chief is not subject to military code. This is American military 101. I recommend spending more time with someone who's served. What a great role model.
  • Probably lol and I would have laughed with you, but facts are facts the work orders are there and well documented. Sorry. So you're telling me that it made you proud as an American to hear your president talk about the White House that way. Cool.
  • Only an idiot and a sith deal in absolutes. The counter protesters, who were they organized by? Were they devoid of sin? Whataboutism again. You cant defend the agenda of the white supremacists, so you're trying to draw a false equivalency to the actions of those who oppose them. That's a pretty disgusting way to try to win an argument. 
  • Actually it didn't lol but sure nice try. Just so you know, I'm not gonna engage blatant lying/ignorance. The left engaged in plenty of dick size shaming, if you'd like to address that I'll listen. "And you know what they say about guys with small hands," Marco said with a smile, prompting stunned laughter from the crowd. - Marco Rubio, 2.28.16 - "And he referred to my hands. 'If they're small, something else must be small.' I guarantee you there's no problem. I guarantee you." - Donald Trump, 3.3.16
  • Really? this was the quote you were referring too lmao, but yes, lock her up! I FULLY AGREE Imprisoning political opponents - :thumbup: Putin likes this
  • Pushing boundaries on what? Securing the denuclearization of North Korea? Achieving 3% GDP growth? What specifically did he work too hard on for you? How much time do you have? Firing the director of the FBI in order to discourage investigation on himself, appointing family members to key administration positions, accepting bribes from corporations in order to influence policy decisions, pardoning political allies, suggesting that he might pardon himself, suggesting that he might make himself president for life. I mean we could be here all day and hes only been in office for a year and a half.
  • dude this right here, this is why i went from voting Obama to voting Trump. You're so disconnected and opposed to any POV that disagrees with you that you honestly believe Trump = Hitler.  Fantastic. Keep it up. I will enjoy the 2020 meltdown round 2. So this would be the bridge too far? Good, I'm glad that you have a shred of decency left. Hopefully it'll never come to pass.

 

And again, none of these solidify racism or a crime being committed. Still waiting for you to followup on that... Obstruction of justice. For starters. 

Let's turn the table a bit... what laws have been enacted by Trump that have hurt minority Americans? None that i know of. On the other hand, who enacted the 1994 crime bill that disproportionately incarcerated African-Americans? That's right, Bill Clinton. Who refereed to African-Americans as super-predators? That's right, Hillary Clinton. Who's pictured here embracing Hillary Clinton: Whataboutism again. This is almost becoming a reflex for you.

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Oh that's right, a grand dragon of the KKK. The picture on the left is real. The one on the right is fake. Yes. Robert Byrd was a former member of the KKK. He quit almost 70 years ago, condemned their message, apologized thousands of times for the remainder of his life, served almost 60 years as a respected Senator, helped pass many pieces of important legislation such as the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act, Hate Crimes Prevention, Health Care Reform, and was honored by the NAACP after his death.

Republicans are not the American party with a documented history of racism. Yes. It's the party that champions Black Lives Matter and marriage equality and compassionate immigration policy who are the real racists. Republicans are the real victims here and reverse racism is a bigger problem than racism.

 

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14 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:
"I'd rather see my country fail then acknowledge Trump is doing a good job."

More reasons why I feel abandoned by the American left. Heaven forbid I want my country to succeed.

Maybe the problem is that you think that Bill ******* Maher constitutes "the American left" in some meaningful capacity?

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15 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

"I'd rather see my country fail then acknowledge Trump is doing a good job."

More reasons why I feel abandoned by the American left. Heaven forbid I want my country to succeed.

Bill Maher never said this. He has actually been very optimistic about talks between Trump and Kim. He has said that he hopes for a recession if it means we could get rid of Trump, which I dont agree with.

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http://thefederalist.com/2017/07/12/whataboutism-charge-dishonest/

Condemning [one's] bad behavior shouldn’t inhibit anyone from pointing out the duplicity and partisan aims of [opposers] who are attempting to gain back power. Those people are part of the equation, as well. In the same way the past doesn’t excuse [new guy's] actions, his actions don’t excuse the behavior of his antagonists. Charges of whataboutism are often used to shut that discussion down. Moreover, the idea that Americans should [debate] without any historical context is a brand new, and utterly absurd, demand. Despite what you have heard, history did not start on January 21.

NPR’s narrow definition of whataboutism. It says, “’whataboutism’ is an attractive tactic for populists allowing them to be vague but also appear straight-talking from what’s happening now.” Yes, it’s also an attractive word for partisans to throw around when they realize their past positions undermine their credibility.

Folks who complain to me about “whataboutism” have a weird propensity to lecture me about historical precedents. Can we talk about the past or not? 

At the end of the day, it’s best to take consistent positions always support strengthening the separation of power. If you were cheering on the last [guy] as these standards were being corroded, your laments about abuse of power can’t be taken very seriously. 

We can’t keep changing the rules every time it’s convenient [...] then cry whataboutism when someone points it out.

[...] = politically charged word's that I removed from the article

 

Even if someone is guilty of "whataboutism" or "Tu quoque", it doesn't mean that hypocrisy hasn't been committed, and pointing out one's hypocrisy shouldn't be dismissed as "argumentum ad hominem". It also is hypocritical to condemn someone else for using logical fallacies while simultaneously committing other forms of ad hominem, particularly "guilt by association" as well as confirmation bias.

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29 minutes ago, RobotHeart said:

CRL posts fake tweets and photoshopped images of democratic senators in KKK outfits, but I'm the bad guy. Ok, got it.

I wasn't saying you were the bad guy. Just that the exhausted overall political and socially charged rhetoric from multiple members on the last couple of pages of this thread would have warranted warnings and probably suspensions in another LGWs lifetime. We're not supposed to be talking about this s***. Ya feel? 

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1 hour ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

I wasn't saying you were the bad guy. Just that the exhausted overall political and socially charged rhetoric from multiple members on the last couple of pages of this thread would have warranted warnings and probably suspensions in another LGWs lifetime. We're not supposed to be talking about this s***. Ya feel? 

The mods have forsaken us!

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5 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

Proactive Self-preservation. 

Wouldnt you just love to see one of these LGW mods, when The 91 of Ryans disrespects our website to say, 'get that son of a ***** off the forum right now. Out. He's banned! He's banned!'

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2 minutes ago, RobotHeart said:

Wouldnt you just love to see one of these LGW mods, when The 91 of Ryans disrespects our website to say, 'get that son of a ***** off the forum right now. Out. He's banned! He's banned!'

I would. because then I could start showing them ALT+PRINT SCREENs of this thread and be like "WTF dudes!!? Where were you when Robot and others dragged that SCF thread into the weeds???" Then they'd be all like "OMFG you're right!!!" Then they'd make me a mod, and then I'd ban you for the half-dozeneth time :lol:

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4 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

I would. because then I could start showing them ALT+PRINT SCREENs of this thread and be like "WTF dudes!!? Where were you when Robot and others dragged that SCF thread into the weeds???" Then they'd be all like "OMFG you're right!!!" Then they'd make me a mod, and then I'd ban you for the half-dozeneth time :lol:

Oh please. I've been banned way more than a half dozen times.

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Fine, I'll play your stupid ass little game. Let's pretend for a second that Donald Trump didn't call black NFL players sons of *******. Instead, he said that any player that kneels in peaceful protest against the injustice of police officers shooting unarmed black men, a noble cause to champion, is a son of a ***** and deserves to be fired from their job. That is equally deplorable. - Why all the ad hominem attacks? We should be able to converse like adults. We don't have to pretend that's what he said, that IS what he said. Notice how we've corrected from "he called blacks sons of *******" to "he called protesters sons of *******" big difference. I understand your POV, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Kneeling during the anthem is IMO a direct insult to veterans, and I think there's a better time and place to protest than this.

Yes, I am absolutely cherry picking things from our nation's history that are good while simultaneously condemning the things that were bad. It's called progress. I know that conservatives are allergic to it, but I promise you that it's not as scary as it sounds. - More ad hominem attacks, color me surprised. Yeah you're cherry picking things YOU think are good. Not everyone agrees on what is good and what is bad. Therefore the rationale "but we did that thing once in the past" is a completely unsound argument.

No, I pointed out the fact that Trumps base is overwhelmingly white, and that if he had painted white people as rapists, drug dealers and murderers the way he did mexicans, he wouldnt have won a single primary. - Why are we comparing whites to Mexicans? Do you think Mexican is a race??? Or are you assuming there are no white Mexicans?

Trump is not a better man than you. - I will take that as a tremendous compliment. Thank you.

We aren't talking about Bill Clinton's actions right now. If thats something you'd like to discuss in the future, I'm all for it. But right now, we're talking about Trump. And whatever errors his predecessors might have made in the past dont excuse Trumps wrongdoings. See, you know that Trumps behavior is indefensible, so you're trying to muddy the waters so that you dont have to admit it. Intellectually shady, bro. - I understand your point and whole heartedly disagree. Bill Clinton is not just a predecessor, if Trump had lost Bill would have been back in the white house as first man. If we're going to scrutinize Trump's behavior with women, the alternatives husband, a very influential former president, is very much on the table too. Bill Clinton is a rapist, infowars.com :bye:

So Trump has consistently mocked people by acting like they are mentally retarded. And that's better.... how? - So Trump has consistently mocked people by acting like they are stupid (fixed it for you)

What a great role model. - Can be said of every American president... do you want me to bust open the ol civics book to explain why American presidents are not subject to military code, or can we just drop this one?

So you're telling me that it made you proud as an American to hear your president talk about the White House that way. Cool. - Proud? Wut? Lol when did I say anything remotely close to this? And why does it matter? It's a house. The work order showed the place objectively had multiple infestations. I'm sorry that the White Houses feelings got hurt lol

Whataboutism again. You cant defend the agenda of the white supremacists, so you're trying to draw a false equivalency to the actions of those who oppose them. That's a pretty disgusting way to try to win an argument. - Correct, I can't and have no intention of defending the actions of racists. But you are pretending like there were no bad guys on the other side. The event were referring to had in attendance looky lou's, respectable conservatives, respectable liberals, violent racist alt-righters, and violent communist/anarchist agitators. There were good and bad on both sides, and Trump's statement acknowledges that.

"And you know what they say about guys with small hands," Marco said with a smile, prompting stunned laughter from the crowd. - Marco Rubio, 2.28.16 - "And he referred to my hands. 'If they're small, something else must be small.' I guarantee you there's no problem. I guarantee you." - Donald Trump, 3.3.16 - Oh jeez, I was wrong! Sorry about that. I'm glad tho that we've confirmed someone else brought dicks into the equation and Trump was merely responding to that :clap: your move

Imprisoning political opponents - :thumbup: Putin likes this - Imprisoning criminals (fixed it for you)

How much time do you have? Firing the director of the FBI in order to discourage investigation on himself, appointing family members to key administration positions, accepting bribes from corporations in order to influence policy decisions, pardoning political allies, suggesting that he might pardon himself, suggesting that he might make himself president for life. I mean we could be here all day and hes only been in office for a year and a half. -

  • Hearsay
  • Presidents that have appointed family members include: Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, James Madison, James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, John Tyler, James Buchanan, Ulysses Grant, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, and John Kennedy. Hillary Clinton’s appointment to the National Health Care task force is the first instance of a president appointing a family member to a position in the executive branch since the passage of the anti-nepotism statute.
  • That's just good trolling sir lol

So this would be the bridge too far? Good, I'm glad that you have a shred of decency left. Hopefully it'll never come to pass. - Hopefully it'll never come to pass? Lmao. So in your mind what are the chances Trump seizes full power and becomes a dictator? 99%? 75%? 50/50? 25%? Less than 10%? Personally, with the way things are going, I think Trump is gonna transition to being a female and inspire the world to a new level of tolerance, and you can't prove it won't happen!

Obstruction of justice. For starters.  - So were no longer claiming he's racist now? Just a justice obstruct-er (which you also haven't proven)?

Whataboutism again. This is almost becoming a reflex for you. - Again, the Clinton's were the alternative to Trump. Trump has no history of enacting racist laws, but the Clinton's do. Yet somehow Trump is the racist... I'm not surprised you're afraid to address the Clinton topic. If Trump is bad then they're just as bad if not worse. If we start a separate conversation about the Clinton's will you be just as outraged and critical of their actions? I'm guessing not, but a boy can hope.

The picture on the left is real. The one on the right is fake. Yes. Robert Byrd was a former member of the KKK. He quit almost 70 years ago, condemned their message, apologized thousands of times for the remainder of his life, served almost 60 years as a respected Senator, helped pass many pieces of important legislation such as the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act, Hate Crimes Prevention, Health Care Reform, and was honored by the NAACP after his death. - Honestly didn't know this, but checked on it and your right. Pic was created by a humor publication back in the day. I was a fake news spreader and I was wrong.

Yes. It's the party that champions Black Lives Matter and marriage equality and compassionate immigration policy who are the real racists. Republicans are the real victims here and reverse racism is a bigger problem than racism. - Hey, I think black lives matter and blue lives matter. I believe in marriage equality. Compassionate immigration? Like if you're village gets hit by a tsunami you suddenly become American? Yeah, I'm not down with that. Democrats fought for slavery, they fought for jim crow, and now they milk minorities for votes with empty promises.

 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

I am done with this before I do. I just hope I haven't gotten too close to the cliff's edge already. Hoping the mods take my impeccable record into account.

You're so far off the cliff the question is if you get a 30 day suspension or a permaban. Also cause you instigated all this s*** to begin with. As expected of a Mr. T supporter.

I predict I'll get 1 week to 30 days since most of mine were sarcastic posts. Ya'll took it to a deeper personal level and were serious and s***.

Maybe by the time Mabus comes back we can cover up this mess by posting about unicorns or somes*** for the next 5 pages. 

Or CRL dick pics 

 

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