krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Well, with LV's run to the Cup Final last season, they are pretty much in a "win now" situation, which sounds weird when talking about a 2nd year team, but they upgraded from Tatar to Pacioretty, and felt the could afford to sell off Suzuki. Heck, if they are in a win now spot, I'll send them Daley for, hmmmm, I dunno, Hague! Sorry, couldn't resist! But heck, they still haven't signed Theodore...wonder if they want a "win now" player for him? I'd send them Daley and Nyquist! If Holland was able to pull off Daley and Nyquist for Theodore, I'd extend Holland to a life-time contract! I wasn't aware of this... I'd give up a significant package for Theodore. Certainly more than Daley and Nyquist... 1 e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 31 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Looking at this trade alone, it doesn't look too bad from Vegas' perspective, but the whole Tatar situation (Holland fleecing McPhee) just makes it look awful. They massively overpaid for a player, and then without giving him much of an opportunity, shipped him out (retaining $500K), along with a prospect and pick, for a player that will essentially replace James Neal... Yeah but if you're looking big picture you'd have to look at all the assets McPhee was able to squeeze out of other GMs during the expansion draft. In which case, I think he can afford to burn through a few less than optimal trades if he's making the team better right now (which he, for sure, has). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: I wasn't aware of this... I'd give up a significant package for Theodore. Certainly more than Daley and Nyquist... Meeeeee too. NO way they let Theodore go though. Especially when they'll be without Schmidt for 20. 1 1 krsmith17 and Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Yeah but if you're looking big picture you'd have to look at all the assets McPhee was able to squeeze out of other GMs during the expansion draft. In which case, I think he can afford to burn through a few less than optimal trades if he's making the team better right now (which he, for sure, has). Exactly! Sure, was Tatar really worth the picks given up? No, but it's not as if they're in want of draft picks. They're still rather flush, missing only their own 2019 7th rounder and the 2021 third rounder. They've got two extra 3rds and 5th in 2019 and 2 additional 2nd round picks in 2020. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,936 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 not sure if you guys realize the puns you are using! @krsmith17 said he refuses to "bet" against Vegas @e_prime said they're still rather "flush" intentional or not, its pretty funny! 2 1 1 Dabura, The 91 of Ryans, krsmith17 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: not sure if you guys realize the puns you are using! @krsmith17 said he refuses to "bet" against Vegas @e_prime said they're still rather "flush" intentional or not, its pretty funny! I caught @krsmith17 's so I had to call. 3 2 krsmith17, AtlantaHotWings, Dabura and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, e_prime said: I caught @krsmith17 's so I had to call. You took a gamble, hoping someone would notice. 1 1 e_prime and Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: You took a gamble, hoping someone would notice. ...and then I had to double down. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 1 e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 36 minutes ago, Dabura said: This guy has such a well balanced take. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,793 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 6 hours ago, LeftWinger said: I think it was a good deal. Suzuki is good, real good actually, but will that translate to the NHL, we will see. At least they got something for Patch. Meh, I'm more of a Toyota guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, e_prime said: This guy has such a well balanced take. Agreed. Pretty standard for him -- gets a detail or two wrong (in this case, that Tatar had no points for Vegas in their postseason run), but, on the whole, you're getting a well-informed and balanced take. I think he's got the right attitude re: Vegas and why this is really exciting for Vegas, and for Pacioretty, and -- I would argue -- for hockey itself. Granted, I've been on the Vegas HYPE! train since Day 1, so I'm biased. I love that the NHL is in that city and I really want to see the experiment succeed. So far, so good. 2 e_prime and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 https://www.nhl.com/goldenknights/news/golden-knights-sign-forward-max-pacioretty-to-4-year-contract-extension/c-300030090 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,936 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 Well that was fast! Guess Patches wanted to stay in Vegas! In local news, Matt Puempel has re-signed with us. 2 years, 675K per. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
germanwing 154 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 PTO for Jussi Jokinen! http://kuklaskorner.com/a2y/comments/jussi-jokinen-wil-be-in-detroits-camp-on-a-pto?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 Uh oh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 He’s gonna get signed for his shoot out ability lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 5 hours ago, GMRwings1983 said: Meh, I'm more of a Toyota guy. Honda if I'm looking at a Japanese brand...Otherwise Ford all the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 It's ok, guys, he shoots left. Everything's ok. Stop panicking. WHY ARE YOU ALL PANICKING? THE MAN SHOOTS LEFT. NOT RIGHT. LEFT. L-E-F-T. 1 1 krsmith17 and The 91 of Ryans reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,936 Report post Posted September 11, 2018 Hmmmm..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted September 11, 2018 16 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: This is why I don't understand why you always bring up the "rental" and UFA thing with Karlsson. You act like the GMs, agents, and players can't talk about trades together and figure out beneficial long term plans for all parties. In reality, if a trade happens in professional sports that surprises the player, there is a high likelihood that the player has pissed people off in the organization. Even then, it still behooves the GM to keep his cool and make the player more marketable by keeping thing professional and looking out for the well being of all parties involved. The "rental thing" gets brought up because nobody wants us to trade for Karlsson without certainty. Usually, "rental" is a term that gets thrown out around the trade deadline because teams are looking for a quick-fix to put them over the top. "Rental" isn't usually term associated with trades made in the offseason because teams are planning not quick fixing or looking to move assets just for picks. In hockey, I'd love an example of a trade that surprised the player. I'm sure they exist but I can't think of a recent one that caused any major ripples in the landscape of how trades get done or how players or management acts concerning trades. As far as Karlsson goes... the GM can be as cool and keep the player as marketable as he possibly can. Doesn't mean good ole Eugene is going to do so. I still think the Wings should go after someone other than Karlsson. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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LeftWinger 4,936 Report post Posted September 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Dabura said: I certainly hope its NOT us!!!! 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted September 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: I certainly hope its NOT us!!!! Vegas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
