e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted December 20, 2018 The other thing to keep in mind, I don't think most players are willing to give up and walk away from $12 million dollars in actual salary. There's definitely something else to this story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: So basically, if we give Helm and Abby fake addresses to report to. We can then get rid of them when they don't show up without it hurting the cap. Cool. Absolutely!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted December 20, 2018 I can't remember the rules with the latest CBA, but with the last one, if the player was under 35 when signing the contract, player and team could walk away from the contract and not have cap implications (i.e. it went away). This protected from a team signing a 35 year old to an 8 year deal to lower the cap, knowing he wouldn't play the full 8 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted December 21, 2018 On 12/19/2018 at 5:49 PM, Euro_Twins said: You can put a player on unconditional waivers for the purpose of mutual contract termination? Why didn't we do this with datsyuk? Like Toby says; 35+ clause. Even if we'd have terminated the contract, we'd still have had the cap hit since he was over 35. 6 hours ago, Euro_Twins said: That seems like a huge loophole in the cba if it is possible. Not really, I'm sure it'd be pretty rare for both sides in a contract to agree to terminate. Maybe it could lead to making the cap recapture rule apply to any contract rather than just long-term, but besides that the NHL has no reason to care. Vadim Shipachyov's contract was terminated last year; no one batted an eye at that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted December 21, 2018 Didn’t New Jersey do the same thing with Damien Brunner? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted December 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, kliq said: Didn’t New Jersey do the same thing with Damien Brunner? Yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted December 26, 2018 Heartbreaking piece on Franzen's continued (and worsening?) daily struggles: Red Wings' Johan Franzen fights depression: 'It quickly gets dark. Very dark.' [The Detroit News] Quote In the SportsExpressen interview, Franzen talks about the difficulty retaining any memory and his struggles with PTSD. Franzen said he can easily understand anyone caught up in substance abuse. Franzen said late in his career, he “started getting concussions from nothing. But I kept a lot secret. I could stop on the roadside on my way home after games and have a panic attack. I sat crying for an hour by the side of the road. No one knew about it.” The issues with memory frustrate Franzen. “It’s embarrassing,” a tearful Franzen said. “I can be speaking with somebody one night and the next day forget that person. The brain didn’t….get it in. So, it’s…hard. “It’s embarrassing. Everything is embarrassing. Now I’m very open about being forgetful.” Franzen has visited numerous doctors and specialists in the world of concussions and last spring visited the Brain Health Institute. “Sometimes my whole world falls apart,” said Franzen, “and I can’t see the light at the end of the tunnel. “Most of the time I think I am moving in the right direction, but when I have down periods there is nothing positive. I almost give up then and it is even worse because you think you have been better for a while.” 2 krsmith17 and Prolix reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted December 26, 2018 I want Johan to get better. Always liked him. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted December 26, 2018 o_O Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted December 26, 2018 23 minutes ago, Dabura said: o_O First no Hockeytown at center ice, then retiring jersey number, and now 3rd jerseys. What is going on here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted December 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: First no Hockeytown at center ice, then retiring jersey number, and now 3rd jerseys. What is going on here? Chris Ilitch, I assume. The 3rd will probably just be a Winter Classic retread tho. I'm expecting a minor variation on the "candy cane stripes" one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dabura said: Chris Ilitch, I assume. The 3rd will probably just be a Winter Classic retread tho. I'm expecting a minor variation on the "candy cane stripes" one. Would rather see the candy cane socks brought back Edited December 26, 2018 by Neomaxizoomdweebie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted December 26, 2018 75th Anniversary variant of the 1932 Detroit Falcons Jersey Could be this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,914 Report post Posted December 27, 2018 I'd be ok with the Falcons flashback. But it should say Falcons or Cougars on it. Whose number is getting retired? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted December 27, 2018 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said: I'd be ok with the Falcons flashback. But it should say Falcons or Cougars on it. Whose number is getting retired? #4 Red Kelly 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted December 27, 2018 A pride rainbow Jersey will be the 3rd. 1 AtlantaHotWings reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted December 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: A pride rainbow Jersey will be the 3rd. No Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted December 29, 2018 LMAO: Stars CEO rips Benn, Seguin: 'They are f---ing horses---' [theScore] We need to get Jim Lites on LGW.com. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted December 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Dabura said: LMAO: Stars CEO rips Benn, Seguin: 'They are f---ing horses---' [theScore] We need to get Jim Lites on LGW.com. What every NHL exec thinks but doesn't say. (***cough***devellano***cough) 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted December 29, 2018 8 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: What every NHL exec thinks but doesn't say. (***cough***devellano***cough) And this guy said it. The absolute madman! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted December 29, 2018 8 hours ago, Dabura said: And this guy said it. The absolute madman! Would have been more timely if he tweeted it. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,914 Report post Posted January 2, 2019 I'll probably take some **** for this because of my 'team friendly" ideas, but damn, looking a few of the last contracts handed out by other teams, Pittsburgh Jake Guentzel for example getting $6M per year extension, with a career high of only 48 points, I have to admit, Dylan Larkin, our soon to be Captain, has a VERY team friendly contract! Zetterberg retiring or not! Comparing Guentzel's contract to what lies ahead of us, AA is gonna cost us some bucks in 2020, as will Mantha. Gus Nyquist DOES deserve a raise (I still hope he garners us a 1st PLUS at the TDL before we re-sign him though.) IF we do manage to draft Jack Hughes, thank GOD he'll be on a ELC for three years...we are going to need all the cap we can spare within the next 5-7 years! Maybe Karlsson isn't the way to go... 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, LeftWinger said: I'll probably take some **** for this because of my 'team friendly" ideas, but damn, looking a few of the last contracts handed out by other teams, Pittsburgh Jake Guentzel for example getting $6M per year extension, with a career high of only 48 points, I have to admit, Dylan Larkin, our soon to be Captain, has a VERY team friendly contract! Zetterberg retiring or not! Comparing Guentzel's contract to what lies ahead of us, AA is gonna cost us some bucks in 2020, as will Mantha. Gus Nyquist DOES deserve a raise (I still hope he garners us a 1st PLUS at the TDL before we re-sign him though.) IF we do manage to draft Jack Hughes, thank GOD he'll be on a ELC for three years...we are going to need all the cap we can spare within the next 5-7 years! Maybe Karlsson isn't the way to go... FWIW, I'm thinking AA or Mantha will probably be traded within the next year or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted January 2, 2019 33 minutes ago, Dabura said: FWIW, I'm thinking AA or Mantha will probably be traded within the next year or two. What's your reasoning? What would you expect to get in return for either player? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted January 2, 2019 1 minute ago, krsmith17 said: What's your reasoning? What would you expect to get in return for either player? The realist/pessimist in me feels like we're gonna have to make a big trade if we want a stud defenseman sometime soon. With Devellano talking about the possibility of making a big move or two in the near future, I wouldn't be surprised if AA or Mantha gets moved. Not sure either player's trade value is especially high right now, but I think maybe one of them plus a sweetener or two could put us in the conversation for a guy like Parayko. Then again, Is Parayko a true stud defenseman? Is he worth it? *shrug* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites